'Somebody must stand up to homosexual...

'Somebody must stand up to homosexuals' - Stewart

There are 491 comments on the The Gleaner story from Aug 25, 2013, titled 'Somebody must stand up to homosexuals' - Stewart. In it, The Gleaner reports that:

A member of the local clergy is charging that Jamaican churches are in religious and spiritual turmoil on the issue of homosexuality.

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Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#263 Sep 16, 2013
You don't know that for a fact...you are living in the same delusional virtual reality that you created with your whack ass connotations that homophobic bigots have lived on making, in their creation of the laws that you don't agree with, wherein they assign marriage between ONLY a man and a woman, and where no other marriage outside of that exists!

When you can SHOW for a FACT that God does not exist, you will gain some credibility...I may lobby the masses to vote you in to be the next President of the United States, Rose_NoHo!

But UNTIL you are able to PROVE that God doesn't exist, you are only blubbering hot talk, that nobody should pay attention to.

Thanks for trying though, Rose_NoHo...everybody gets a ribbon for participating, don't they?

:D
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I do know it to be a fact, an all powerful, all knowing god who has rules for us to follow does not exist.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#264 Sep 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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He didn't. Nuclear fusion did.
And who made 'nuclear fusion' possible?

EXACTLY!

Until you can explain EVERY phenomena, you cannot DISPROVE that God exists! How did Earth make its way to this solar system, and where was Earth BEFORE this solar system, Rose_NoHo? Don't have the answers for me? Didn't think so...but I bet you God has those answers for me...IF He exists, that is, since I myself can't prove or disprove His existence either!

;)

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#265 Sep 16, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
You don't know that for a fact...you are living in the same delusional virtual reality that you created with your whack ass connotations that homophobic bigots have lived on making, in their creation of the laws that you don't agree with, wherein they assign marriage between ONLY a man and a woman, and where no other marriage outside of that exists!
When you can SHOW for a FACT that God does not exist, you will gain some credibility...I may lobby the masses to vote you in to be the next President of the United States, Rose_NoHo!
But UNTIL you are able to PROVE that God doesn't exist, you are only blubbering hot talk, that nobody should pay attention to.
Thanks for trying though, Rose_NoHo...everybody gets a ribbon for participating, don't they?
:D
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I have proven that god does not exist. If he did, we'd all know the rules he wants us to follow.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#266 Sep 16, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
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And who made 'nuclear fusion' possible?
EXACTLY!
Until you can explain EVERY phenomena, you cannot DISPROVE that God exists! How did Earth make its way to this solar system, and where was Earth BEFORE this solar system, Rose_NoHo? Don't have the answers for me? Didn't think so...but I bet you God has those answers for me...IF He exists, that is, since I myself can't prove or disprove His existence either!
;)
That is called the "God of the gaps" fallacy. I'll never be able to explain ever phenomena. That doesn't mean, "Zap! God did it!"
Jake

Austin, TX

#267 Sep 16, 2013
ButtNaked Frankenstein wrote:
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This may be a poor choice for comparison but here we go! Before the media started editing their news story's to fit in with the mainstream 1960s liberal mindset, we had no doubt that the sexual anomaly known as homosexuality was objectionable and was not accepted! You might even use that argument for the civil rights end of the social spectrum. After MLK there were riots and looting, burning and violence. Like the homosexual , the blacks were in a sense bolstered by the media attention and their true colors "punning" came through. The homosexual now have a voice!
The media itself will be responsible for the downfall of our social unity in America by allowing groups like the Gays to have a podium to plead their case to the liberal tree huggers that always side with the under dog no matter how vile!
Extremely well said and 100% spot on!
Jake

Austin, TX

#268 Sep 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I have proven that god does not exist. If he did, we'd all know the rules he wants us to follow.
No, all you have proven is your ignorance.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#269 Sep 16, 2013
Jake wrote:
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No, all you have proven is your ignorance.
Then counter my argument.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#270 Sep 16, 2013
i LOVE to stand next to homosexuals !:)
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#271 Sep 17, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I have proven that god does not exist. If he did, we'd all know the rules he wants us to follow.
You have NOT proven shit, and you can't even rationally explain things that you claim are fact!

You have convinced yourself that God does not exist, and you feel that any rules that have been instilled on this planet were not passed down from God. This proves NOTHING! Let me give you an example, based on the sun, alright rookie?

When I said that you could not DISPROVE that God made the sun shine on our planet, you countered with the fact that nuclear fusion made the sun shine on our planet. That counterargument doesn't disprove God's existence, it only explains how the sun continues to exist and give off heat and light energy, that reaches our planet Earth. Similarly, nuclear fission can be explained as being the cause of an atomic blast, but the bigger question is who created the atomic bomb? Now, we know the answer as to whom created the atomic bomb...but who created the sun again?

Until you can come up with a CREDIBLE answer, as to who created Planet Earth, the sun, the galaxy and everything else that you cannot immediately explain and point to as being someone else's creation, you CANNOT DISPROVE that God exists! There are still people that believe that the person that created the atomic bomb is God...again, can you DEFINITELY say that the person that created the sun, stars, Earth and moon is not God (a God not of your own knowledge)? DIDN'T THINK SO!

Thanks for trying to mount an argument without substance again, lightweight! Next time you seek to discredit the existence of someone or something, include PROOF within your statements, otherwise, you come off looking like a dumbass!

:D
Marvin

Oslo, Norway

#272 Sep 17, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Then counter my argument.
You have made no argument and besides, intelligent people don't waste their time arguing with imbeciles.
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#273 Sep 17, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That is called the "God of the gaps" fallacy. I'll never be able to explain ever phenomena. That doesn't mean, "Zap! God did it!"
IF you have NO PROOF that God didn't do it (which you DON'T have any proof, and that is the ONLY constant in this pointless argument that you are trying to maintain here!), then you can't call phenomena that you cannot explain (your admission) anything, especially "God of the gaps" fallacies, when someone else says that God is responsible for creating that phenomena, as you have never seen God, you cannot disprove that the other person has or has not seen God, and most importantly, by YOUR admission, you cannot explain said phenomena, so that essentially wraps up this wonderful tete-a-tete! Basically, what that means is that any phenomena that you cannot explain COULD simply mean that it was a phenomena in which was created in a flash by God! Until you can DISPROVE EVERY PHENOMENA by explaining how said phenomena came about, and was not created by God Himself, you cannot prove shit! This is by no means saying that God exists, mind you, Rose_NoHo, but it also isn't concrete evidence that God does not exist either, as there is no proof brought up by yourself, or anybody else for that matter, that could prove that God does not exist somewhere, and wasn't responsible for phenomena that cannot be explained, Rose_NoHo!

The better man won this debate, Rose_NoHo, and that would be ME!

;)

Come back with FACTS next time you want to talk about what is what, kid...I would be glad to hear it!
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#274 Sep 17, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Then counter my argument.
You have NO argument! You have been rendered non-credible! Prove your claim...OH YEAH...isn't this basically what you said in your last comment, Rose_NoHo???...

"...I cannot explain every phenomena..."

I rest my case!

;)

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#275 Sep 17, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
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You have NOT proven shit, and you can't even rationally explain things that you claim are fact!
I've proven an all powerful, all knowing god who has rules for us to follow doesn't exist. If one did, we'd all know the rules.
Blacktigershark wrote:
You have convinced yourself that God does not exist, and you feel that any rules that have been instilled on this planet were not passed down from God. This proves NOTHING! Let me give you an example, based on the sun, alright rookie?
When I said that you could not DISPROVE that God made the sun shine on our planet,
Not true. God never existed, so he didn't make the sun. Period.
Blacktigershark wrote:
you countered with the fact that nuclear fusion made the sun shine on our planet. That counterargument doesn't disprove God's existence, it only explains how the sun continues to exist and give off heat and light energy, that reaches our planet Earth. Similarly, nuclear fission can be explained as being the cause of an atomic blast, but the bigger question is who created the atomic bomb? Now, we know the answer as to whom created the atomic bomb...but who created the sun again?
Nobody did.
Blacktigershark wrote:
Until you can come up with a CREDIBLE answer, as to who created Planet Earth, the sun, the galaxy and everything else that you cannot immediately explain and point to as being someone else's creation, you CANNOT DISPROVE that God exists! There are still people that believe that the person that created the atomic bomb is God...again, can you DEFINITELY say that the person that created the sun, stars, Earth and moon is not God (a God not of your own knowledge)? DIDN'T THINK SO!
Thanks for trying to mount an argument without substance again, lightweight! Next time you seek to discredit the existence of someone or something, include PROOF within your statements, otherwise, you come off looking like a dumbass!
:D
Again, I have proven god does not exist. Try to counter my argument.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#276 Sep 17, 2013
Marvin wrote:
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You have made no argument and besides, intelligent people don't waste their time arguing with imbeciles.
OK. I won't argue with you.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#277 Sep 17, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
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IF you have NO PROOF that God didn't do it
I've proven god doesn't exist, so it follows he didn't do it.

Duh.
Swede

Dallas, TX

#279 Sep 17, 2013
taking down
World Travler

Sydney, Australia

#280 Sep 17, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
i LOVE to stand next to homosexuals !:)
You still never answered me, do you want to see my froliclingrod?

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#281 Sep 17, 2013
Swede wrote:
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Thank you for taking that nasty pic you used to display.
I got sick of you pulling your micro pud to it.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#282 Sep 17, 2013
Blacktigershark wrote:
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He, She, It...God!
Can't admonish God as a fallacy now, can you?
ONLY POINT that matters in this matter! Now, snyper and Rose_NoHo...are you prepared to present CREDIBLE evidence that God does not exist, or are you both trying to command some sort of attention through these bellicose comments?
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Argumentum ad Ignorantiam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ig...
Blacktigershark

Edmonton, Canada

#283 Sep 17, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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I've proven an all powerful, all knowing god who has rules for us to follow doesn't exist. If one did, we'd all know the rules.
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Not true. God never existed, so he didn't make the sun. Period.
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Nobody did.
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Again, I have proven god does not exist. Try to counter my argument.
You HAVE NOT PROVEN that God (one that you like to refer to as 'all knowing', or omniscient, if you would like to appear more intelligent than you actually are) does not exist, Rose_NoHo...you have simply stated that you don't believe that God does not exist, through bullshit rants of yours, where you claim not to know "God's" rules.(P.S. Who said that God had any rules for humankind, Rose_NoHo? Did humans make rules for the atomic bomb BEFORE they tested it in America, and then dropped it on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Remember what I was saying to you about who was the 'God' of the atomic bomb???)

Somebody, someone or some process created everything, Rose_NoHo. THAT is something you cannot deny. The fact that you CANNOT explain how certain things came into existence is the sole reason that your claim that God does not exist does not hold water, kid. This is the critical flaw in your CLAIM that you are just not seeing, Rose_NoHo, and mind you, you are speaking to someone that would give you any credit to any sort of explanation that would back your claim of God not existing, of which you have provided no credible ones to date! There is nothing to counter in your argument, as you have no standing points to sustain your own argument, so again, you lose!

Dividing up my comments into cute little sections, and leaving one line responses to each sequestered comment you break up of mine, still does not give you any point to stand upon, Rose_NoHo. Face it...you don't believe in God, but that does not mean that He does not exist (even if back then, scientists would have known 'God', or have been able to NOW identify 'God' by another name! Just like those people that can identify the 'God' of the atomic bomb by name...get it NOW, Rose_NoHo? I doubt you will!)

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