Senators Urge Obama To Sign ENDA Order

There are 14 comments on the lezgetreal.com story from Feb 22, 2013, titled Senators Urge Obama To Sign ENDA Order . In it, lezgetreal.com reports that:

More than a third of US Senators have urged President Barack Obama to bypass Congress and issue an executive order making it illegal for any employer to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.

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“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#1 Feb 22, 2013
Why have a congress at all if The Obamaniac is going to simply rule as a dictator by issuing decrees ?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#2 Feb 22, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Why have a congress at all if The Obamaniac is going to simply rule as a dictator by issuing decrees ?
Why have a Congress at all if they're not going to do their job? The country needs to be governed, and if the Congress won't do it, then I have no problem with the President doing what he can.

Besides which, I'm pretty sure any executive order like this would only affect employers with contracts with the federal govt. But still, a signifanct step forward.
Richard Atwood

Jackson Heights, NY

#4 Feb 22, 2013
The Emancipation Proclamation certainly exceeded the powers of the Executive, too. But it was an important tool in the conquest of slavery and secession, and an inspiration and hope for those struggling in bondage. At the very least, the grumblings over it more clearly separated the sheep from the goats.
Big Boob Babe

Alpharetta, GA

#5 Feb 22, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Why have a congress at all if The Obamaniac is going to simply rule as a dictator by issuing decrees ?
Obama was elected to get the backfield in motion
.
HE is doing an exemplary job while Boehner gently weeps
http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploa...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#6 Feb 22, 2013
Richard Atwood wrote:
The Emancipation Proclamation certainly exceeded the powers of the Executive, too. But it was an important tool in the conquest of slavery and secession, and an inspiration and hope for those struggling in bondage. At the very least, the grumblings over it more clearly separated the sheep from the goats.
While I certainly agree with you that it is was an important document as as far as inspiriation and hope are concerned, I do not think one can "own" a slave any more than one can "own" the sea, the sky, the moon, or the sun. There are just certain things that a human cannot own, and another human is foremost among those unownable things.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 Feb 22, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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While I certainly agree with you that it is was an important document as as far as inspiriation and hope are concerned, I do not think one can "own" a slave any more than one can "own" the sea, the sky, the moon, or the sun. There are just certain things that a human cannot own, and another human is foremost among those unownable things.
Your ignorance is astounding. People have owned other people for millenia, and continue to own them today.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#8 Feb 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Your ignorance is astounding. People have owned other people for millenia, and continue to own them today.
Well, yes, I know that.

I was talking about the morality of it. Even though one may purchase a human from a human, one still cannot "own" that person any more than one can own the sky. Legality has nothing to do with it.

Just because one peson can coerce another person to labor, does not mean that one "owns" that person as one owns a parcel of land.

No matter how much one pays to a purported "owner", a person simply cannot be the property of another.
NoQ

Alexandria, VA

#9 Feb 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance is astounding. People have owned other people for millenia, and continue to own them today.
I'd like to own you, you little bitc:h. I'd put you in a freak show and have normal people pay to see a live shiteating FAGG@T.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 Feb 22, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, yes, I know that.
I was talking about the morality of it. Even though one may purchase a human from a human, one still cannot "own" that person any more than one can own the sky. Legality has nothing to do with it.
Just because one peson can coerce another person to labor, does not mean that one "owns" that person as one owns a parcel of land.
No matter how much one pays to a purported "owner", a person simply cannot be the property of another.
And the natives would tell you a person can't own a parcel of land either, yet they had no problem owing other people as slaves.

And peta would tell you a person can't own an animal either, but they have no problem owning land.

So it's all a matter of perspective.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Feb 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And the natives would tell you a person can't own a parcel of land either, yet they had no problem owing other people as slaves.
And peta would tell you a person can't own an animal either, but they have no problem owning land.
So it's all a matter of perspective.
Well, people owned land even before teh time of Jesus of Nazareth.

And as an animal rights person, I do prefer to think of my self as a caregiver to my 3 cats (especially considering teh amount of money I have spent on them over the years) rather than an "owner" of them.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#12 Feb 22, 2013
And owning land is central to a functioning free-market economy.

In history, when governments outlawed teh private ownership of land, communism, and socialism, simply hasn't worked because it cannot ever work.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#13 Feb 22, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
And owning land is central to a functioning free-market economy.
In history, when governments outlawed teh private ownership of land, communism, and socialism, simply hasn't worked because it cannot ever work.
So was owning slaves.....

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Since: Apr 08

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#15 Feb 22, 2013
Wow, World's Bigot Loser had to change servers. Well, I guess the family blocked his acces to his other frequent gay browsing!

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Since: Nov 07

this one

#17 Feb 22, 2013
An executive order would solve the immediate issues for folk within reach of it, but it is no substitute for finally getting ENDA passed.

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