Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rhode Island

Jan 15, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: New York Daily News

Supporters of same-sex marriage rights plan to assemble at the Rhode Island Statehouse to urge lawmakers to make the smallest state the 10th to allow gay and lesbian couples to wed - and the last to do so in New England.

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Jan 26, 2013
 
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Is it because his wife has a vagina, or because she is a loving, caring, nurturing person?
Hmmmm.....his sister is a loving caring person too.....I suppose if he lived with her.......

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Some do, some do not. But you can't possibly believe that even the states that passed amendments out of hatred or irrational fears will maintain then forever.
Perhaps they won't.....remember those amendments define marriage as a conjugal union of husband and wife. They block SSM, and polygamy too. Soooooo.......it could b a double win over hate and irrational fears....no more homophobia.....no more polyaphobia.
The trends just don't support that outcome.
It's only a matter of how much pain will be caused to good gay folks and their families in those states, and for how long such harm will continue.
Ditto for good poly folks and their families.

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However, the facts and stats don't show that to really be the case. There is nothing that shows that - in general - that the children of straight couples do better - in general - then the children of gay couples.
"......of gay couples"? Not quite sure the meaning there. Only one person of that SSC can be the bio parent.....so how is "of" defined? The second person is essentially defined as a "step father/mother", or "adoptive father/mother".

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"......of gay couples"? Not quite sure the meaning there. Only one person of that SSC can be the bio parent.....so how is "of" defined? The second person is essentially defined as a "step father/mother", or "adoptive father/mother".
Millions of kids are also being raised by opposite-sex couples where only one or neither is the bio parent.

If it makes it clearer for you, consider the statement being raised BY same-sex couples instead.

I'm sure it won't matter either way, because you're obviously opposed no matter HOW it is phrased.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Perhaps they won't.....remember those amendments define marriage as a conjugal union of husband and wife. They block SSM, and polygamy too. Soooooo.......it could b a double win over hate and irrational fears....no more homophobia.....no more polyaphobia.
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Ditto for good poly folks and their families.
No state which has changed their laws to include marriage for same-sex couples have expanded that definition beyond 2 people.

Polygamy is just another red herring used by the anti-gays.

As I've said before, IF society ever gets to the point that polygamous couples are accepted, then it will happen regardless of whether same-sex couples can marry or not.

Your fellow bigots used the same scary scenario when inter-racial couples were allowed to marry; they all claimed it would lead to polygamy or bestiality or pedophilia or some other such nonsense.

Do you need some butter for that herring?

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No state which has changed their laws to include marriage for same-sex couples have expanded that definition beyond 2 people.
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As of yet, each successive state that adopt SSM, increases the likely hood, or at the very least continues the "if ssm is legal, why not polygamy", conversation.

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Polygamy is just another red herring used by the anti-gays.
Its some thing the pro gays, at least some, are unable, or are unwilling, to admit. America's favorite polygamist family, The Browns of "Sister Wives" fame continue to conduct interviews where they express their support for SSM. So no, its not a Red getting.
As I've said before, IF society ever gets to the point that polygamous couples are accepted, then it will happen regardless of whether same-sex couples can marry or not.
Legal ssm has laid the foundation for it. You know it, and I know it.
Your fellow bigots used the same scary scenario when inter-racial couples were allowed to marry; they all claimed it would lead to polygamy or bestiality or pedophilia or some other such nonsense.
Your fellow polyaphobes claim rights for yourselves but will deny them to others.
Do you need some butter for that herring?
Do you need a shovel to clean up after the elephant in the rainbow clubhouse?
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Jan 27, 2013
 
Pietro Armando wrote:
Why not ask those same couples why marriage exists in the first place? Why not ask them if its important to society that children are born to, and raised by, their own biological married Mom and Dad in a stable marriage. How does redefining marriage support that objective?
How does redefining marriage hinder that objective?
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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Hmmmm.....his sister is a loving caring person too.....I suppose if he lived with her.......
OH come off it. Being a loving, caring person has NOTHING to do with what sex you are. Just because a person has a vagina, doesn't mean she is automatically a better parent... or even a good parent.
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Its some thing the pro gays, at least some, are unable, or are unwilling, to admit. America's favorite polygamist family, The Browns of "Sister Wives" fame continue to conduct interviews where they express their support for SSM. So no, its not a Red getting.
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Legal ssm has laid the foundation for it. You know it, and I know it.
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Your fellow polyaphobes claim rights for yourselves but will deny them to others.
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Do you need a shovel to clean up after the elephant in the rainbow clubhouse?
He wrote-Polygamy is just another red herring used by the anti-gays.

You wrote-Its some thing the pro gays, at least some, are unable, or are unwilling, to admit. America's favorite polygamist family, The Browns of "Sister Wives" fame continue to conduct interviews where they express their support for SSM. So no, its not another red 'herring.'

I write: And you have the nerve to write something like "need a shovel?" We have to shovel through several truck-loads of your smelly fish every day down at the rainbow clubhouse <wink, wink>.
I really don't comprehend why you think polygamy ISN'T a red herring. And what does who "Sister wives" support have to do with the FACT that polygamy is a red herring to the issue of gay marriage. Is Rhode Island voting on polygamy? No. IT'S A SEPERATE ISSUE. legally and logically.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Its some thing the pro gays, at least some, are unable, or are unwilling, to admit. America's favorite polygamist family, The Browns of "Sister Wives" fame continue to conduct interviews where they express their support for SSM. So no, its not a Red getting.
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Legal ssm has laid the foundation for it. You know it, and I know it.
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Your fellow polyaphobes claim rights for yourselves but will deny them to others.
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Do you need a shovel to clean up after the elephant in the rainbow clubhouse?
If that's all you've got then you don't have much.
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He wrote-Polygamy is just another red herring used by the anti-gays.
You wrote-Its some thing the pro gays, at least some, are unable, or are unwilling, to admit. America's favorite polygamist family, The Browns of "Sister Wives" fame continue to conduct interviews where they express their support for SSM. So no, its not another red 'herring.'
I write: And you have the nerve to write something like "need a shovel?" We have to shovel through several truck-loads of your smelly fish every day down at the rainbow clubhouse <wink, wink>.
I really don't comprehend why you think polygamy ISN'T a red herring. And what does who "Sister wives" support have to do with the FACT that polygamy is a red herring to the issue of gay marriage. Is Rhode Island voting on polygamy? No. IT'S A SEPERATE ISSUE. legally and logically.
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Are ya that stubborn? It's quite simple. SSM and Polygamy both represent significant changes from the commonly understood, legal, cultural, historic, and/or religious, concept of MARRIAGE as THE UNION of ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN AS HUSBAND AND WIFE. That's it! If it no longer means that, why can't it mean two men, two women, one man several women, one woman several men, etc. Where do we draw the line?

What makes SSM such a secular sacred cow that marriage has to be redefined for it, and nothing else? Why are SSM rights more important that poly rights? So much for the notion of "equality". "Some are more equal than others".

How the heck did American society survive into the 21st century on the quaint notion that marriage is a union of husband and wife, orientated their sexual union, and the products of that union, children? Crazy I tell ya....our civilization should've died out decades ago.

If two men/women don't marry will the sky fall? Will legions of unwed gay pregnant men live in shame? Will gay women wonder what to do with all the sperm they produce?

Polygamy a red herring? Not at all.
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Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>OH come off it. Being a loving, caring person has NOTHING to do with what sex you are. Just because a person has a vagina, doesn't mean she is automatically a better parent... or even a good parent.
Without that vagina, you're not here!
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If that's all you've got then you don't have much.
"Some ( gay people/ ssm advocates) are more equal than others ( polygamists)".
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Quest wrote:
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However, the facts and stats don't show that to really be the case. There is nothing that shows that - in general - that the children of straight couples do better - in general - then the children of gay couples.
That's the point.
The most popular studies used to promote your ideas compared ONLY single parents to straight married parents. Gay folks were excluded from the studies intentionally. Then the anti-gay crowd tried to put gay couples in the SAME category as single parents to prove a point.
They failed.
No. The point is that NO studies compare married gays and yet you would pretend studies speak to that and meanwhile make critiques of other studies that require an identical leap of faith to the one you just made...
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Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>OH come off it. Being a loving, caring person has NOTHING to do with what sex you are. Just because a person has a vagina, doesn't mean she is automatically a better parent... or even a good parent.
but having a UTERUS tends to make one a better mother than someone who has none, eh?

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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"Some ( gay people/ ssm advocates) are more equal than others ( polygamists)".
That's life.

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That's life.
Didn't Sinatra sing that song?
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Considering the overwhelming majority of those who support marriage for same-sex couples are self-described christians, I'd have to say that's a big fat no.
Do those people read the Bible?
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I'm sorry, but the POSTER I was responging too believes that animals and people are the same with regards to human sex. Only the anti-gay crowd maked such comparisons on these boards.
How is pointing out that every single person who talks about the benefits of bestiality in these threads is a bigot hypocritical?
Simple fact - no "judegments" required.
Just read a few thousand such posts, and then come back and argue.
Read a few thousand posts? Unlike a troll like you, I have a life.
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So says the member of the American Taliban party! Hey,you lost the election(Again,LOL) How about you move to some fascist country somewhere if one even exists and be happy withholding rights from minority's! Or how about you clean up your pedophile enabling church,who for decades covered up the offending priests and simply transferred them from parish to parish for decades and thus allowing them to continue molesting thousands of additional children! All in the name of protecting the Churches good(?????) name at the expense of the children!
Lost an election? Yup, I'm part of the America that works rather than live off the govt. dole like you.
The part of America that does not kill the unborn. Proud to be in that group.

PS....Unemployment is up and Obamacare lost to the churches on contraception coverage mandate...LOL

Obviously a moron like you would not know that across the board all religions have incidences of abuse. The media however smply hates Catholic morality teachings, thus stories of abuse in other churches is rarely exposed.

Beat it, dope.

PS....Odd to see an abortion loving liberal like you worrying about children!!! LMAO

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