Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rho...

Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rhode Island

There are 525 comments on the New York Daily News story from Jan 15, 2013, titled Fight to legalize gay marriage in Rhode Island. In it, New York Daily News reports that:

Supporters of same-sex marriage rights plan to assemble at the Rhode Island Statehouse to urge lawmakers to make the smallest state the 10th to allow gay and lesbian couples to wed - and the last to do so in New England.

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Lililth_Satans_B ore

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#368 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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That depends on how marriage is defined. A single person cannot legally marry some one of the same sex, if marriage is legally defined as an opposite sex union.
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Again, that depends on how marriage is legally defined in a particular state.
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That assumes that the legal marriage of the same sex union in one state is viewed as a legal union in another state. That is not the case. The same sex marriage in one state is a legal non entity in another state. That does not prohibit the individuals involved in the legally recognized same sex marriage, from marrying in a non-SSM state...or does it? If a self described bisexual woman marries a woman in a SSM legal state, moves to a ssm constitutionally prohibited state, marries a man, which marriage takes precedence? The OSM, or the SSM?
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So one state can force another state to legally recognize a relationship, even though the second state's constitution does not allow for such legal recognition?
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If the legal definition of one state requires both genders are necessary for a valid marriage, then that's what the state requires.
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So again, different states define legal marriage differently.
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Other state courts have ruled differently. Additionally voters in 31 states or so have constitutionally defined marriage for their state.
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In a non SSM state that marriage, legally, does not exist.
so you would be ok if states criminalized christianity... thought so

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#369 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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TML
Different situations can be treated differently. One would not expect to find urinals in the ladies room, for the obviously reason that women don't pee standing up. If marriage laws are to be based on one's sexual orientation, its stands to reason that if one is self described as "bisexual", one should be allowed to, if s/he so chooses, marry one person of each sex.
BUT ALL HUMANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO JOIN WITH THE ONE THEY LOVE INTO CIVIL CONTRACT..........Strawman BS doesnt fly. Is there any REAL reason for same sex marriage to not be legal?????? now no RELIGION OR BIGOTRY OR HATE REASONS.....Just REAL reasons.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#370 Jan 22, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>so you would be ok if states criminalized christianity... thought so
Che? "....criminalized christianity"? What if they criminalized Islam, Budhism, Satanism, Judaism,.....would you be okay with that too? Ya might have to change your monkier if Satanism was criminalized.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#371 Jan 22, 2013
ToManyLaws wrote:
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BUT ALL HUMANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO JOIN WITH THE ONE THEY LOVE INTO CIVIL CONTRACT..........Strawman BS doesnt fly. Is there any REAL reason for same sex marriage to not be legal?????? now no RELIGION OR BIGOTRY OR HATE REASONS.....Just REAL reasons.
Suppose they love more than one? Calling it a "strawman argument" dosn't render the question in valid. So what is the answer?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#372 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Then why does the State approve adoption for single parents? Probably because they know a child's welfare is more complex than the sex of who teaches them about menses.
What are you taling about? Have you been sniffing too much doggy do do, Jane Do Do? What do you and your wife tell your own daughters? "Go see dad, he can explain all about your menses"? "thanks mom"?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#373 Jan 22, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Then why does the State approve adoption for single parents?
Ohhhh...gee.. may be to provide a child whose bio parents are unable, or unwilling to care for the child, a parent who can and will.
Probably because they know a child's welfare is more complex than the sex of who teaches them about menses.
So when you got your first period and had questions about it, did you ask your mom, or dad?

Lililth_Satans_B ore

Since: May 12

Bellevue, WA

#374 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Che? "....criminalized christianity"? What if they criminalized Islam, Budhism, Satanism, Judaism,.....would you be okay with that too? Ya might have to change your monkier if Satanism was criminalized.
i'm an atheist you fucktard... so I say criminalize all religions... especially christianity

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#377 Jan 22, 2013
Lililth_Satans_Bore wrote:
<quoted text>i'm an atheist you fucktard... so I say criminalize all religions... especially christianity
Nice....real nice....Satan must be proud of his little Bore. Too bad he's not aware of your desire to criminalize Satanism.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#378 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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I see.....okay...but it doesn't necessarily detract from the message.
Ummmm, yeah, to rational people it kinda DOES.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#379 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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C'mon Sheepie.....its true that more female couples marry than male. Your thoughts as to why? Perhaps because, marriage, even gay marriage, is still far important to the female of the human species than male. Monogamy, or lack thereof among male couples...even Andrew Sullivan admited this to be true...and again...why wouldn't it be? Men are men...besides gay men don't have to worry about pregnancy...not unless there's been a break through in the human reproductive process.
Your first sentence is correct.

Everything after that is pure conjecutre tainted by your bigotry.

Don't presume to tell me why I got married and how committed we are to each other.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#380 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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A father can "educate" his daughter about her menstrual cycle all he wants, it may help if he is a health ed teacher, or a gynacologist, however he does not have the experiencial knowledge. Nor does a woman regarding an errection. My daughters did not want to discuss "feminine" issue with me, their dad, they want Mom.
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If you're unable to provide BOTH genders of parents, the biological mother and father to the children, and the gendered experiences they possess, the you should probably reconsider having kids.
So since you admit you are unable to provide the necessary parental guidance to a female child, then you better make sure you only have boys. Question? What happens if your wife dies? Do you just abandon your daughter? Put her in an orphanage?? Or remarry the next day so there's a woman around to take care of all those female issues???

Since neither gender is required to properly raise a child, I think I'll ignore your advice. I have no doubt about my ability to raise my daughter; if I did, I wouldn't have had her. See that's called PLANNING ahead for the repsonibility you're about to take on when you decide to become a parent. Now if only we could get the majority of heteros to plan their lives as well, the world would be a much better place.

Again, if YOU feel both genders are necessary to raise a child, then please make sure you have both available if you decide to start a family. And YES, I expect heteros to PLAN when they start families; it's called personal responsibility.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#381 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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That depends on how marriage is defined. A single person cannot legally marry some one of the same sex, if marriage is legally defined as an opposite sex union.
<quoted text>
Again, that depends on how marriage is legally defined in a particular state.
<quoted text>
That assumes that the legal marriage of the same sex union in one state is viewed as a legal union in another state. That is not the case. The same sex marriage in one state is a legal non entity in another state. That does not prohibit the individuals involved in the legally recognized same sex marriage, from marrying in a non-SSM state...or does it? If a self described bisexual woman marries a woman in a SSM legal state, moves to a ssm constitutionally prohibited state, marries a man, which marriage takes precedence? The OSM, or the SSM?
<quoted text>
So one state can force another state to legally recognize a relationship, even though the second state's constitution does not allow for such legal recognition?
<quoted text>
If the legal definition of one state requires both genders are necessary for a valid marriage, then that's what the state requires.
<quoted text>
So again, different states define legal marriage differently.
<quoted text>
Other state courts have ruled differently. Additionally voters in 31 states or so have constitutionally defined marriage for their state.
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In a non SSM state that marriage, legally, does not exist.
Actually my marriage DOES exist, it's just not recognized by some states. I'm legally married whether Michigan recognizes it or not. My marriage license doesn't magically disappear and reappear when I cross state lines.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#382 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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TML
Different situations can be treated differently. One would not expect to find urinals in the ladies room, for the obviously reason that women don't pee standing up. If marriage laws are to be based on one's sexual orientation, its stands to reason that if one is self described as "bisexual", one should be allowed to, if s/he so chooses, marry one person of each sex.
They can, but no more than one at a time. Maybe eventually society will decide to allow people to marry more than one person at a time. If that's what society wants, that's what will happen.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#383 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Che? "....criminalized christianity"? What if they criminalized Islam, Budhism, Satanism, Judaism,.....would you be okay with that too? Ya might have to change your monkier if Satanism was criminalized.
I think her point was that just because a state chooses to ban something doesn't mean it passes federal constitutional muster.

That IS what's still being decided by the courts.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#384 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Ohhhh...gee.. may be to provide a child whose bio parents are unable, or unwilling to care for the child, a parent who can and will.
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So when you got your first period and had questions about it, did you ask your mom, or dad?
But according to your logic a single woman should only be able to adopt a female child and a single man should only be able to adopt a male child in order to provide the necessary "plumbing" guidance.......

Btw, when I got my first boner I asked my mom about it, because like most dads, mine didn't talk about that kind of stuff. It was another classic "go ask your mother" moment.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#385 Jan 22, 2013
sickofit wrote:
FREEDOM AND EQUALITY FOR ALL......GO FREEDOM....GO CONSTITUTION.....GO CIVIL RIGHTS..........
Down with bigotry and hate....
Yaaaaay....LIONS AND TIGERS AND BEARS OH MY!
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#386 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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TML
Different situations can be treated differently. One would not expect to find urinals in the ladies room, for the obviously reason that women don't pee standing up. If marriage laws are to be based on one's sexual orientation, its stands to reason that if one is self described as "bisexual", one should be allowed to, if s/he so chooses, marry one person of each sex.
Try that argument in Court. I double dog dare you.
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#387 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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What are you taling about? Have you been sniffing too much doggy do do, Jane Do Do? What do you and your wife tell your own daughters? "Go see dad, he can explain all about your menses"? "thanks mom"?
Why does the State allow single parent adoption?
Jane Dodo

West New York, NJ

#388 Jan 22, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Ohhhh...gee.. may be to provide a child whose bio parents are unable, or unwilling to care for the child, a parent who can and will.
WHAT?????? They didn't investigate who was going to tell the child about menses!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#389 Jan 22, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So since you admit you are unable to provide the necessary parental guidance to a female child, then you better make sure you only have boys. Question? What happens if your wife dies? Do you just abandon your daughter? Put her in an orphanage?? Or remarry the next day so there's a woman around to take care of all those female issues???
Oh but I can...ya see my daughters...plural...don't expect me to think or act like a woman...quite the contrary....I'm their father, and as such they expect me to act as their father...not their mother. Now before you launch into the "gender role" rhetoric, I can and have cooked meals, tasty ones at that, changed diapers, done laundry, cleaned, helped with home work, took my girls to the playground when they were younger, and much more. Oh, and yes they do look to me as a model as to how a husband should treat his wife. If something were to happen to my wife...I'm sure my sisters would help out as would my daughters help each other.
Since neither gender is required to properly raise a child, I think I'll ignore your advice.
Why don't we as a society, dispense with biological parents raising their own children. Since neither gender is necessary to properly raise a child, there's no need for both mother and father to be present....just sever that ole biological tie.
I have no doubt about my ability to raise my daughter; if I did, I wouldn't have had her. See that's called PLANNING ahead for the repsonibility you're about to take on when you decide to become a parent.
I do not presume to doubt you do. However, as one father to another, I hope you realize the importance of a girl's own mother in her life. Personally, all the love I can give as a father, or any other father can give, can't replace the love of a mother, of one's own mother. So I hoped you planned for that too.
Now if only we could get the majority of heteros to plan their lives as well, the world would be a much better place.
No disagreement there brother. Well said.
Again, if YOU feel both genders are necessary to raise a child, then please make sure you have both available if you decide to start a family. And YES, I expect heteros to PLAN when they start families; it's called personal responsibility.
Again, no disagreement there. However, that's the risk one takes when one has sex. Many...many...many...moons ago..somebody figured out that sex between men and women makes babies. Before ya know it early societies came up with a plan to address that....it was called "marriage". Even had its own language...some of it is still used today, "husband and wife", "bride and groom", "consumation of the marital relationship", etc. Sometimes consumations took place before the marriage. Not to worry though, society had a contingency plan..which sometimes involved a shotgun...that's where the phrase "son of a gun" came from. But I digress....

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