White House Won't Classify Westboro Baptist Church as a Hate Group

Jul 6, 2013 Full story: WTMA-AM North Charleston 60

The White House says it won't classify the Westboro Baptist Church as a "hate group" in response to petitions filed at WhiteHouse.gov.

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#43 Jul 9, 2013
Justin wrote:
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Wether or not Westboro Baptist Church is a real church is beside the point. The Obama administration will never classify an organization as a hate group because they're anti-homosexual or anti-military. A huge block of the Democrat constituency is anti-homosexual and anti-military.
Wrong. He won't declair WBC a hate group because it violates their first amendment rights.

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#44 Jul 9, 2013
Sheeesh!!!!!

So many slept though civics.

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#45 Jul 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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I understand the feeling, hon, but Free Speech is NOT a privilege ... it's a Right.
I do not think Free Speech was ever intended to say whatever you like no matter how hateful.

People have twisted free speech to include any speech.

People suing for defamation shows even free peech can be punishable in the legal sense esp if thag speech is lies or used to promote hate and violence.

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#46 Jul 9, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Wrong. He won't declair WBC a hate group because it violates their first amendment rights.
That is incorrect. Obama has no care about violating people`s ammendment rights.

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#47 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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I do not think Free Speech was ever intended to say whatever you like no matter how hateful.
People have twisted free speech to include any speech.
People suing for defamation shows even free peech can be punishable in the legal sense esp if thag speech is lies or used to promote hate and violence.
One can say what ever they like. The connection to violence must be proven. For example, I have heard reactionary right wing talk show hosts advocating violence and treason on the air. They are free to do so. The connection must be made that their speech was a proximate cause for violence. For example, suppose Michael Savage advocated violence against a member of Congress. Suppose a weak minded listener went and killed that member saying that Michael Savage was right about what he said and the killer did it because he felt morally obligated to do so. This may be construed as Proximate, however, Michael's defense would be a denial saying that the killer misunderstood what he had said.

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#48 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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That is incorrect. Obama has no care about violating people`s ammendment rights.
Your proof?

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#49 Jul 9, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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One can say what ever they like. The connection to violence must be proven. For example, I have heard reactionary right wing talk show hosts advocating violence and treason on the air. They are free to do so. The connection must be made that their speech was a proximate cause for violence. For example, suppose Michael Savage advocated violence against a member of Congress. Suppose a weak minded listener went and killed that member saying that Michael Savage was right about what he said and the killer did it because he felt morally obligated to do so. This may be construed as Proximate, however, Michael's defense would be a denial saying that the killer misunderstood what he had said.
Oh you`re a leftard. I`ll leave it, as you people have no clue.

But your "messiah" Obama is one worthless marxist toss. Stripping people of their rights.

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#50 Jul 9, 2013
Justin wrote:
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Wether or not Westboro Baptist Church is a real church is beside the point. The Obama administration will never classify an organization as a hate group because they're anti-homosexual or anti-military. A huge block of the Democrat constituency is anti-homosexual and anti-military.
The White House doesn't have the legal power to declare ANY group a "hate group" (The present White House is a "hate group" but designated themselves that creates other problems).

As the SPLC is a private group, they are free to designate any group a "hate group" or anything else they want.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

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#51 Jul 9, 2013
Justin wrote:
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Wether or not Westboro Baptist Church is a real church is beside the point. The Obama administration will never classify an organization as a hate group because they're anti-homosexual or anti-military. A huge block of the Democrat constituency is anti-homosexual and anti-military.
OK, you are obviously high. Step away from your computer before you cause some real damage, like ordering 300 Hummel figurines or something.

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#52 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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Oh you`re a leftard. I`ll leave it, as you people have no clue.
But your "messiah" Obama is one worthless marxist toss. Stripping people of their rights.
Just like I thought. You can't back up your claims.

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HUGE FAIL

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#53 Jul 9, 2013
Europa Report wrote:
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The White House doesn't have the legal power to declare ANY group a "hate group" (The present White House is a "hate group" but designated themselves that creates other problems).
As the SPLC is a private group, they are free to designate any group a "hate group" or anything else they want.
Exactly. Great point.

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#54 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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That is incorrect. Obama has no care about violating people`s ammendment rights.
Can't prove it huh?

Liar.

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#55 Jul 9, 2013
Sir Andrew wrote:
No, Mark in Toronto. You are wrong. The government here in the states does NOT name groups as hate groups. And that is as it should be; that is not their role. They also haven't named the KKK or the Neo-Nazis as hate groups. That nomenclature is for others to use. Learn your American history before you start attacking our government. Especially since you all will be additional states in the near future, even as much as that will clutter our flag with way too many stars.
Sorry to burst your bubble but as far as the KKK goes. It IS listed as a hate group. In order to even be a card carrying member you must send off your personal information to our government. They monitor all listed members. It's listed as a hate group.

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#56 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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I do not think Free Speech was ever intended to say whatever you like no matter how hateful.
People have twisted free speech to include any speech.
People suing for defamation shows even free peech can be punishable in the legal sense esp if thag speech is lies or used to promote hate and violence.
Still, Free Speech remains a Right, and Calumny in most of it's forms remains a suit-worthy offense.... unless you're a newsie, a pundit, or a politician it seems.

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#57 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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That is incorrect. Obama has no care about violating people`s ammendment rights.
Any links to specifics there, or is that just Calumny?

http://catholicism.about.com/od/Catholic-Dict...

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#58 Jul 9, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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That is incorrect. Obama has no care about violating people`s ammendment rights.
Doesn't your ass get sore from pulling all these fantasies out of it?
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#59 Jul 9, 2013
The dirty Kenyan wants to destroy the country and Fraud Phelps is a tool of the Kenyan.

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#60 Jul 9, 2013
Straight Sh00ter wrote:
The dirty Kenyan wants to destroy the country and Fraud Phelps is a tool of the Kenyan.
I agree.

GOOD post !

:)

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#61 Jul 9, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Doesn't your ass get sore from pulling all these fantasies out of it?
Aww you voted for Obama. Case closed says everything about you.

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#62 Jul 10, 2013
Athaliah wrote:
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Aww you voted for Obama. Case closed says everything about you.
Is that the best you can come up with? How do you know, another factoid pulled out of your Cheetos stained ass? You sure like to dream up scenarios.

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