What Is Your Stance on Gay Marriage?

[Kesla15]

S-N-A-F-U wrote:

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Not quite....
God knows what's best for us, and admonishes us for bad behavior for OUR OWN good - like any responsible father would do. However, the rewards are far greater than the punishment. Like living on a paradise earth for ever without sickness or famine. Who wouldn't want that? Those that don't seek salvation, can look forward to only "3 score and 7" (67 years,+ or -) Then....Thaats all folks.
BTW, I wouldn't blaspheme, not very prudent -- even a gambler is smart enough to hedge his bet...
Note: There are some post I haven't gotten to yet. I'll work on it depending on my time allotted....

Why can't you respect the fact that not everyone believes your religion?

If you are right, and God does exist, then hopefully he'll judge me for how well i've lived my life, and how kind and caring i've been to people. Not for how long i've sat in a Church and worshipped Him out of blind fear for going to Hell.

[Wondering]

Kesla15 wrote:

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Why is it bad that I compared myself to animals? People like yourself constantly pull the "law of nature" card when trying to make your homophobic argument look valid, when in fact homosexuality is actually very prominent in nature. Do you have some sort of species shovinism issue?

Did you mean chauvinism? Do you know what it means?
It isn't bad that you compare yourself to a bat, it's ridiculous.
Some birds can eat berries that would sicken or kill humans, would you run out and eat some of them because birds do?

[Wondering]

Kesla15 wrote:

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1. You're thinking too black and white, in this world there are many shades of grey.
2. It isn't an impossibility for me to have children.
3. I'll stick to having dogs when i'm older, never wanted kids, and it'll be more money in my pocket. I know I wouldn't make a good parent, i'm too selfish and like myself too much, hey, at least i'm being honest and not a jerk like you.

1. There is a married mother and father and then there is everything else.
2. Yes it is. Two men can't produce a child between them and neither can two women. Interestingly, there might be nothing medically wrong with you or your partner. I wonder what would prevent you from having children. Could it be that it defies nature.
3. That's good news for the kids of the future.

[freethinker1957]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Rose's Law:
Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"
No matter how you feel about gay couples raising children, gay marriage is a totally separate issue.

without children there is no reason for marriage

[Earth Child 1]

freethinker1957 wrote:

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without children there is no reason for marriage

Since when is marriage only valid by having children?

[freethinker1957]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Why are you against equal protection under the law? The 14th Amendment grants all US citizens equal protection. That includes minorities. What could be more unAmerican than being against the Constitution, like you are!
You are a joke.

do you support polygamy or group marriage. a better case can be made for that then for gay marriage. in fact a gay couple and lesbian couple can marry in duel marriage. the children can have the benefit of both a males and female role modal. or do you support incest if you support gay marriage how can you not support incest.

[suntzu02908]

What is Marriage? A union, a contract between two people. If we take a look at society today and define marriage it is a joke. Look at Hollywood! Does this represent marriage? Do children need both a Mom and Dad to become successful? I am not a Cristian however; I do not agree with same sex couples adopting children. Why? I guess if it was in San Francisco it would be accepted however; in the United States as a whole it is not and these children will be tormented from others which is no fault of their own. I did not say that same sex parents are bad or would teach their children their life style but the children are affected by this and that is not good.

[Wondering]

Kesla15 wrote:

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1. What is this gay agenda?
2. And actually gays do have the highest suicide rates. 26% of reported suicides are from gay teens. This isn't due to a mental disorder or whatever over jargon you're going to throw at me, it's due to the fact they are VICTIMISED and BULLIED by ignorant HATEFUL people like YOU.
3. Also, if children are capable to learn about heterosexual relationships in 99.99% of childrens books why aren't they able to read childrens books which have gay couples aswell?
4.. Once again, why do you care so much if someone is attracted to someone of the same sex? It's not a very hard concept to grasp.

1. The gay agenda is acceptance by any means possible. Force of law, brainwashing other people's children, retribution for anyone that takes an opposing view.
2. 100%- 26%= 74% in all of the schools I've attended. This means that 74%, almost 3 times your 26% rate, are commited by people other than homosexuals and for all the same reasons.
3. They can, at home.
4. Once again, I don't care who you're attracted to and you're right, it isn't a hard concept to grasp.

[Wondering]

Kesla15 wrote:

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Why can't you respect the fact that not everyone believes your religion?

Why can't you respect the fact that not everyone supports gay marriage?

[S-N-A-F-U]

ELH wrote:

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Romans wasn't written by God you dunderhead. In fact NOTHING in the new Testament was. And aside from the gospel of John, who said NOTHING what so ever about homosexuality, it was ALL written at least 30 years after Christ died.
As for the "old testament", as you know Christians firmly believe that Jesus cancelled the laws of Leviticus so they could eat ham to celebrate the (alleged) resurrection of an observant Jew.
So you see, your argument against SSM and homosexuality has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with your fear, hatred and ignorance.
Now stop hiding behind Jesus's skirts like a pathetic weasel.

Au Contraire....

Fear, hatred and IGNORANCE comes from Atheist, apostates and segments of your society concerning God's plans for humanaty.

The fact is, the most flagrant opposition to God's written word are those most ignorant of it's contents.

Incidently, Paul wrote Romans 1:24-28 referring to the destible act of homosexuality....

In the New Testament, the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John and Jude were all written by the men after whom they are named. Luke also wrote the book of Acts. The apostle Paul wrote the book of ROMANS, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus, Philemon and Hebrews. The apostle John recorded the book of Revelation.

(However, Scholars believe that none of the disciples took part in writing any gospels in the new testament and The Epistles of James, Peter, John and Jude are clearly pseudonymous and were written by church leaders (of the Universal Church, established in the 4th century) who obviously had no personal acquaintance with Jesus or his disciples. Nor are their writings part of the Bible.

Regarding Paul of Tarsus....

An Apostle of Jesus Christ (Eph. 1:1; Php 3:5) His Hebrew name was Saul, later became known by his Greek name Paul. He was given supernatural visions (2Co. 12:1-5) by means of the holy spirit. Prior to this, as a young man at whose feet the false witnesses who stoned Christ's disciple Stephen -- Paul approved of the murder of Stephen and, because of misdirected zeal for his tradition, began a campaign of vicious persecution against Christ's followers. That was then ---

As Paul neared Damascus, Christ, Jesus revealed himself to Paul in a flashing light and commissioned him to e an attendant and a witness of things he had seen and would yet see. Whereas those with Paul also fell to the ground because of the manifestation and heard the sound of someone speaking, Paul alone understood the words and was blinded, necessitating his being led by the hand to Damascus (Ac 9:3-8; 22:8-11, 26:12-18) For three days he neither ate or drank. Then, while praying in the house of a certain Judas at Damascus, Paul, in vision, saw Christ's disciple Ananias come in and restore his sight. When vision became reality, Paul was baptized, received holy spirit, partook of food and gained strength----Ac 9:9-19. From there Paul traveled extensively through-out the region and beyond preaching the good news.....Of all the Apostles, Paul is one of the most interesting - chosen from acts against Jesus's followers to one revered by Christ, which he appointed after his death.... It was Paul's privilege to write More books, or letters of the Christian Greek Scriptures than anyone else.

[Just Think]

Wondering wrote:

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Full equality would be you marrying your partner and starting a family. You do know that's an impossibility, don't you? Full equality for a child is having both a mother and a father that cares.

Children are not a requirement for marriage.

You're not making very much sense.

[Just Think]

S-N-A-F-U wrote:

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Not quite....
God knows what's best for us, and admonishes us for bad behavior for OUR OWN good - like any responsible father would do. However, the rewards are far greater than the punishment. Like living on a paradise earth for ever without sickness or famine. Who wouldn't want that? Those that don't seek salvation, can look forward to only "3 score and 7" (67 years,+ or -) Then....Thaats all folks.
BTW, I wouldn't blaspheme, not very prudent -- even a gambler is smart enough to hedge his bet...
Note: There are some post I haven't gotten to yet. I'll work on it depending on my time allotted....

If your god knows what is best and wants us to behave in a certain way, then why even bother to give us free will?

And are you really saying someone should believe in your god just to "hedge their bets"? Seriously?

[searching]

Wondering wrote:

<quoted text>No one is laughing at apes. It is you that compares yourself to bats and lions, not me. For the record, I don't pray but I do respect the right of people to do so. I also got married in a church to a person of the opposite sex. We married because we wanted to raise a family, something you and your partner can't do no matter how many laws you change or want changed. It's the law of nature.

That's right. They are so busy trying to push their lifestyle down other peoples throats instead of just being happy they live in a free country they have to show off their flags and refuse to accept anyone who doesn't accept their relationship. I have a lesbian sil it doesn't bother me one bit but don't force what you believe to be right onto me and I won't tell you how I feel about what your doing. They have lost many friends after coming out due to parents not willing to tell their children and they were offended. They act childish. I hid it this many years I refuse to any longer.
Well then loose your friends then. I don't think they are very happy people all they do is drink and do drugs and party every chance they get.

[Jane Dough]

Just Think wrote:

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Children are not a requirement for marriage.
You're not making very much sense.

what is REQUIRED of a marriage then?

[Just Think]

Jane Dough wrote:

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what is REQUIRED of a marriage then?

A marriage certificate.

[Redman]

Yesterdays News wrote:

<quoted text>So are people who rape and murder. Why are we expected to abandon everthing we know as true because a bunch of deranged reprobates want us to?

What don't you figure it out, start with a phycologist and work up from there....you people need special help! Not saying that all of us couldn't use a little ourselves.

[S-N-A-F-U]

ELH wrote:

<quoted text> God gave the Torah directly to Moses.
There were many deciles but only 12 apostles and only ONE of the apostles, John, has a Gospel.
So John was the only one who hear the word of Jesus and made a record. The other gospels were written by disciples who did not know Jesus based on oral history repeated over at least 30 years. Have you ever played "telephone"?

Wrong again...

God directly gave Moses the 10 Commandments, not the Tora. The Tora was written over a period of time - directed by God, which included: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Originally, there were 12 Apostles. John was appointed after Jesus' death. That's covered in a previous post.

It was God, through his holy spirit that guided the writings of the Bible, and not from some ones Memory...See: 2 Peter 1;:20,21

I suggest you stay away from your gay and atheist web sites concerning the prognosticationa of God through his written word...They have no understanding of the meaning, nor the context relating thereto...wise up!

[Redman]

Just Think wrote:

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In other words, you - like every other homophobe - have no proof whatsoever that homosexuality is a choice.
Next!

Just Think, stop and listen...there is more proof that Gay is a choice than something you are born with....it is okay if it is a choice, most of us choose to do things others disagree with! Logically Bi and celibacy is a choice as well and many disagree with that lifestyle as well....just call it what it is instead trying to sell others on an untruth/lie. We aren't buying it now or ever! Get a life and live with it.....most of us don't care, so quit shoving it in our face!

[freethinker1957]

Rose_NoHo wrote:

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Have you ever heard of the US Constitution? It says all US citizens should get equal protection under the law. Even when that's not popular with dummies like you.

have you ever read it. nature itself does not give you equal rights not god but nature. or evolution if you will. why do you think only heterosexual can o have children.there is no way you can bully nature into changing that fact.

[freethinker1957]

Atlas12a wrote:

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Look man not everyone believes in Christianity so y should they not marry because ur religion says so?

what does Christianity have to do with any thing. as if there the only one that look down on homosexual. homosexual in as most people define it today has only been around for a couple of centuries.