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New Family Structures Study Intended To Sway Supreme Court On Gay Marriage, Documents Show

There are 11 comments on the www.huffingtonpost.com story from Mar 10, 2013, titled New Family Structures Study Intended To Sway Supreme Court On Gay Marriage, Documents Show. In it, www.huffingtonpost.com reports that:

The conservative funders who bankrolled a flawed and widely cited academic study that's critical of gay marriage choreographed its release in time to influence "major decisions of the Supreme Court," documents show.

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Since: Jun 11

AOL

#1 Mar 10, 2013
Because procreation intent, ability, and even ability to have sex are specifically not required for marriage, what you can imagine as the best family, is irrelevant.

It also ignores reality.

Remember, even convicted child abusers, wife abusers, rapists, and other violent prisoners retain the fundamental right of marriage. The desire to hold same sex couples to a far higher and impossible standard, demonstrates this is about prejudice, not fairness.

“Post-religious”

Since: Apr 08

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#2 Mar 10, 2013
The claim that the anti-gay are merely interested in "protecting marriage" and do not have animus against gay and lesbian people is simply wrong.

The evidence is clear that the anti-gay -- particularly the so-called religious right -- will lie, cheat, and bear false witness to keep gay people from enjoying the equal protections of the law.

The Witherspoon Institute, NOM, the Catholic and Mormon Churches, and ideologues like Professors Mark Regnerus, W. Bradford Wilcox, Loren Marks, and Robert Oscar Lopez (who are willing to sell their academic credentials for a relatively low price), are all part of the concerted effort to manufacture scientific evidence to support their claims where real evidence is completely lacking.

Since: Mar 09

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#3 Mar 10, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Because procreation intent, ability, and even ability to have sex are specifically not required for marriage, what you can imagine as the best family, is irrelevant.
It also ignores reality.
Remember, even convicted child abusers, wife abusers, rapists, and other violent prisoners retain the fundamental right of marriage. The desire to hold same sex couples to a far higher and impossible standard, demonstrates this is about prejudice, not fairness.
You are refreshing.

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#4 Mar 11, 2013
I find it curious that these people are willing to break so many other rules of their Bible in the interest of defending one that they perceive as so important.

If they are right about judgement by God after we die, the good news is that we will not have to see them in Heaven, they will not be admitted.

“We are all atheists”

Since: May 11

Lewes, DE

#5 Mar 11, 2013
I read through this so-called study when it was first released and was appalled at the liberty the author took with his definitions - specifically the way he lumped all sorts of parenting structures into two categories "straight-hetero-long-ter m-married," and "everyone else." Talk about fixing your results!

I was glad to read that actual professionals in the field were also appalled and have stated such in no uncertain terms (and some have submitted briefs). Let's hope there is enough brain power among the 9 Justices to see through this bogus study.

“Married 6/17/08”

Since: Feb 07

Porterville, CA

#6 Mar 11, 2013
Ron431 wrote:
I find it curious that these people are willing to break so many other rules of their Bible in the interest of defending one that they perceive as so important.
If they are right about judgement by God after we die, the good news is that we will not have to see them in Heaven, they will not be admitted.
While I totally agree with you on this, the ones I feel kinda sorry for are the folks who believe this "BS" because the "preacher wouldn't lie". It never stops amazing me the people who stop thinking when they go through the "church house" door.

Since: Mar 09

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#7 Mar 11, 2013
The American Sociology Association has filed a counter brief that includes a debunking analysis of the Regnerus Survey and it's methodology.

http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2013/03...

http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/plank/104001/... #

Regnerus really does look as stupid as his work is unprofessional.

“LGBT Americans, We're ”

Since: Jun 09

Everywhere you are!

#8 Mar 11, 2013
Citing a "study" in a brief filing and citing it during oral arguments before the SCOTUS are two different things.

You have relatively unlimited time/space to make your argument. I recently read where the Court had allocated just under 2 hours for all arguments by both sides in each of these cases. If the marriage opponent's attorneys (Mr Cooper & the BLAG attorneys) want to spend a large portion of their very limited time defending "a study slammed for its methodology, funding, and academic integrity", released just last year and not endorsed by any of the relevant professional associations -- then, GO FOR IT!

“LGBT Americans, We're ”

Since: Jun 09

Everywhere you are!

#9 Mar 11, 2013
Get a Life 2 wrote:
You have relatively unlimited time/space to make your argument
IN FILING THE BRIEF.

Since: Mar 09

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#10 Mar 11, 2013
There probably WON'T be any but the most cursory of formal statements of arguments.

It will be a question and answer session based upon all submitted materials and the thoughts of the various Justices.

Since: Feb 10

Woodstock, Illinois

#11 Mar 15, 2013
jcofe wrote:
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While I totally agree with you on this, the ones I feel kinda sorry for are the folks who believe this "BS" because the "preacher wouldn't lie". It never stops amazing me the people who stop thinking when they go through the "church house" door.
Unfortunately, hate, fear, and racism are always taught. These people were always taught to follow the teachings of their church without question. Their parents ingrained the belief from the time they were born. To question the church is to question their parents and their own lives and beliefs.

It is hard, but not impossible to break the cycle of hate that the church teaches. While major problems still exist, the racism that the church taught towards African Americans until the 60's is waning. It took time for that change, fortunately, even without a change in church teachings, their taught hate for homosexuality is already waning.

When you consider how far the anti gay and their paid researches have to go to "prove" their views, how utterly obvious their lies have become, it is easy to see that fairness and equality is winning this fight.

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