Gay unions ban handed to caucuses

Gay unions ban handed to caucuses

There are 11 comments on the Journalgazette.net story from Nov 19, 2013, titled Gay unions ban handed to caucuses. In it, Journalgazette.net reports that:

Both Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, and House Speaker Brian Bosma, R-Indianapolis, said it is not the most important issue facing the General Assembly and they will not play dictator on the matter.

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“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1 Nov 19, 2013
It's kind of fun to watch the homophobes running scared.

“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#2 Nov 19, 2013
Kind of like roaches scurrying from the light (of reason).
Speedieg

Atlanta, GA

#3 Nov 19, 2013
There is no hate like republican hate. It's the real deal, they know how to hold on to it. Civility my ass. The only justification they have is one based on religion which should have no part in the application of civil law.
Cordwainer Trout

Greensburg, KY

#4 Nov 19, 2013
The Legislature should definitely vote for this issue to finally be put before the electorate. You could beat the underbrush, search the suburbs and hire flaming homosexual bigots to offer rewards... you'd still find it hard to find any queers in Indiana. Democrats have to make up fantasies to support "marriage" for queers there. Democrats continue trying to disallow the people to vote on the matter and Republicans say they don't want to influence anyone one way, or another. That makes Democrats look tyrannical again. Politically active extremist sexual perverts from other States just bathe in the undeserved attention and their predictable exhibitionism.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6 Nov 19, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The Legislature should definitely vote for this issue to finally be put before the electorate. You could beat the underbrush, search the suburbs and hire flaming homosexual bigots to offer rewards... you'd still find it hard to find any queers in Indiana. Democrats have to make up fantasies to support "marriage" for queers there. Democrats continue trying to disallow the people to vote on the matter and Republicans say they don't want to influence anyone one way, or another. That makes Democrats look tyrannical again. Politically active extremist sexual perverts from other States just bathe in the undeserved attention and their predictable exhibitionism.
The U.S. Census Bureau 2012 reports that the population of Indiana was 6,537,334.

General breakdown of 2010 Census

http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/acsbr10-0...

The ACS subdivision of the Bureau 2012 estimates for Indiana

http://www.census.gov/hhes/samesex/files/ss-f...

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#7 Nov 19, 2013
I usually ignore such obvious trolls, but you've made this SO easy!!!
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The Legislature should definitely vote for this issue to finally be put before the electorate.
How about we vote on your civil rights and whether or not you'll get equal protections to everyone else? Sound like a plan?
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
You could beat the underbrush, search the suburbs and hire flaming homosexual bigots to offer rewards... you'd still find it hard to find any queers in Indiana.
You're making the very naive and foolish assumption that only gay people support marriage equality. Not even close to true. The millions of us that do have millions and millions of friends and family members that love us and want to see us have equal rights, too. Don't assume that all straight people are like you. They're absolutely not.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Democrats have to make up fantasies to support "marriage" for queers there.
Nope. The use the Constitution, just like everyone else that uses their brain effectively.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Democrats continue trying to disallow the people to vote on the matter and Republicans say they don't want to influence anyone one way, or another.
That's because Democrats understand that you don't vote on other people's civil right and the Republicans are seeing the writing on the wall--they're on the losing side and it's going to cost them dearly to stay there. But they're too arrogant and stupid to admit that they're wrong.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
That makes Democrats look tyrannical again.
Nope. They just know that you don't vote on the civil rights of minorities, no matte how much money they could make off of it.
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Politically active extremist sexual perverts from other States just bathe in the undeserved attention and their predictable exhibitionism.
I'm guessing you came just after you typed that, didn't you?
Pierre

France

#8 Nov 19, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The Legislature should definitely vote for this issue to finally be put before the electorate. You could beat the underbrush, search the suburbs and hire flaming homosexual bigots to offer rewards... you'd still find it hard to find any queers in Indiana. Democrats have to make up fantasies to support "marriage" for queers there. Democrats continue trying to disallow the people to vote on the matter and Republicans say they don't want to influence anyone one way, or another. That makes Democrats look tyrannical again. Politically active extremist sexual perverts from other States just bathe in the undeserved attention and their predictable exhibitionism.
Well said and spot on as usual!

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#9 Nov 19, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The Legislature should definitely vote for this issue to finally be put before the electorate. You could beat the underbrush, search the suburbs and hire flaming homosexual bigots to offer rewards... you'd still find it hard to find any queers in Indiana. Democrats have to make up fantasies to support "marriage" for queers there. Democrats continue trying to disallow the people to vote on the matter and Republicans say they don't want to influence anyone one way, or another. That makes Democrats look tyrannical again. Politically active extremist sexual perverts from other States just bathe in the undeserved attention and their predictable exhibitionism.
Both Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, and House Speaker Brian Bosma, R-Indianapolis, refuse to do their job, which is to make decisions over issues like this. Instead they wimp out with the old 'let the people vote' crap.

Unfortunately SCOTUS ruled that voting on civil rights was not legal.

SCOTUS Majority opinion:

West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943

"The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections."

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#10 Nov 19, 2013
Pierre wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said and spot on as usual!
Don't be too surprised when you start seeing all these State Constitutional Amendments and all the other anti gay laws on the books turn to dust once we start bringing 'West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943' into marriage equality lawsuits.

I think it will be pretty hard for lower courts to disregard a legal precedent set by SCOTUS!

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#11 Nov 19, 2013
Oh, do explain the similarities between what is going on here in the U.S., and in your homeland of France, oh great, worldly, Pierre!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#12 Nov 20, 2013
I sure that they have their caucuses well in hand.

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