In Portsmouth, A War Of Words Between Gay City Councilman And Biblecrazy Mayor

Feb 19, 2012 Full story: Towleroad 180

When goodhearted mayors across the country signed their names to the Mayors For Freedom petition in support of marriage equality, Kevin Johnson , the First Ward City Councilman in Portsmouth, OH, wrote a very kind and well-reasoned letter to Mayor David Malone asking him to do likewise.

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burgman

Portsmouth, OH

#1 Feb 19, 2012
i beleive that david malone spoke the same words that any minister of a church would or should have said in the response to suport of a gay issue . the members of the city council have shown thay will stoop to any means to dis-credit mayor malone.as was done with the last mayor. when johnson brought this stuff up he knew what would happen . the pdt should not have ben a part of it.if johnson wants this shit take it to california

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#2 Feb 19, 2012
I guess if you represent a city, you only have to represent the people who believe as you do. Anyone of any other religion or belief will not be given any thought or leadership. Theocracy at it's finest. This is what we want at a national level???
meeee

Sardinia, OH

#3 Feb 19, 2012
Malone sure the hell made the right call. Johnson isn't nothing but a trouble maker anyway,he needs to take his a... Back to California for sure.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#4 Feb 19, 2012
meeee wrote:
Malone sure the hell made the right call. Johnson isn't nothing but a trouble maker anyway,he needs to take his a... Back to California for sure.
Well, aren't you glad that you are one of the people Malone represents?? Good thing you aren't another religion or another ethnic background or a woman or homosexual or atheist. They apparently don't get representation in this theocracy. Guess no one there ever heard of the Constitution, or maybe noone from Malone's church is literate enough to read it. I hear they do arithmatic on their fingers and toes.
meeee

Sardinia, OH

#5 Feb 19, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
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Well, aren't you glad that you are one of the people Malone represents?? Good thing you aren't another religion or another ethnic background or a woman or homosexual or atheist. They apparently don't get representation in this theocracy. Guess no one there ever heard of the Constitution, or maybe noone from Malone's church is literate enough to read it. I hear they do arithmatic on their fingers and toes.
you're full of crap,first off you don't know who I am or what i am. Only reason he started this crap was to belittle the Mayor,no other reason. He's been nothing but a trouble maker from the get go!!!!!!

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#6 Feb 19, 2012
meeee wrote:
<quoted text> you're full of crap,first off you don't know who I am or what i am. Only reason he started this crap was to belittle the Mayor,no other reason. He's been nothing but a trouble maker from the get go!!!!!!
I read the letter, so I got the message the mayor wanted to send....if you don't follow my beliefs, you are out of my official radar. Good luck to all the rest of the citizens.
Tommy

Portsmouth, OH

#7 Feb 19, 2012
Johnson the a hole man, he is the one to follow, smells like shiit to me. sux it johnnie...
voice of reason

Circleville, OH

#8 Feb 19, 2012
Thank you Mayor Malone for your responce. I'm sick and tired of felling like the outcast for having Christian beliefs. I'm tired of feeling that we have to except those that choose this life style. Why do we have a "Gay Pride" parades but are to afraid to have celebrations of what God tells us is right? I don't judge gay or lesbians, this is not what this post is about. I'm just tired of the catering that is expected of everyone. But to be an equal opprotunity hater, I'm also against the NAACP, Skinheads or any other organization that tells us that we MUST except those that they represent. Want to fit in? Associate yourselves with your peers. Demand to be excepted and you will never be.
voice of reason

Circleville, OH

#9 Feb 19, 2012
Sorry, Accepted in last sentence. Not excepted

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#10 Feb 19, 2012
voice of reason wrote:
Thank you Mayor Malone for your responce. I'm sick and tired of felling like the outcast for having Christian beliefs. I'm tired of feeling that we have to except those that choose this life style. Why do we have a "Gay Pride" parades but are to afraid to have celebrations of what God tells us is right? I don't judge gay or lesbians, this is not what this post is about. I'm just tired of the catering that is expected of everyone. But to be an equal opprotunity hater, I'm also against the NAACP, Skinheads or any other organization that tells us that we MUST except those that they represent. Want to fit in? Associate yourselves with your peers. Demand to be excepted and you will never be.
Take a leap out of the prehistoric times! This is a nation of all faiths and different people. Not a Christian only nation!
I am not gay but I support anyone who is. It is all about love.

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#11 Feb 19, 2012
Post 8 has a good point. Those who demand respect will never get it. You want to be treated like a normal person? Act like one.

Gays have a bad habit of acting like children and making demands. This does nothing but harm their cause. Throwing glitter on people you don't agree with? WTF is this, the 3rd grade? Screeching like stepped on cats is mature discourse?

That crap won't work. It never has and it never will. Respectable people only respond negatively to such behavior.
straight

Portsmouth, OH

#12 Feb 19, 2012
i personally believe that every person shouldhave the right to marry whomever they wish,with that being said,to put an article in the daily times regarding the disagreement between these two men was in poor taste and shows the character of our councilman.even though i dont agree with mayor malones opinion i have to respect him for standing up for his beliefs.
questioning

Ashville, OH

#13 Feb 19, 2012
Do the mayors religious beliefs belong in a political office?
I'm not terribly smart when it comes to the Bible, but I do wonder what else there is that "God calls an abomination". Also, and perhaps my greatest concern, by stating this so publicly, how ever will the Reverend Malone be able to minister to any members of his flock who are conflicted about their sexuality? What I DO know of the Bible, really, is that we are supposed to love one another, and it is not up to us to judge another. Is that what an elected official should do?
I think Malone crossed the line with this. I'm very disappointed that he doesn't seem to be the political leader of ALL of the people of Portsmouth, but only of his chosen flock of believers.

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#14 Feb 19, 2012
questioning wrote:
Do the mayors religious beliefs belong in a political office?
I'm not terribly smart when it comes to the Bible, but I do wonder what else there is that "God calls an abomination". Also, and perhaps my greatest concern, by stating this so publicly, how ever will the Reverend Malone be able to minister to any members of his flock who are conflicted about their sexuality? What I DO know of the Bible, really, is that we are supposed to love one another, and it is not up to us to judge another. Is that what an elected official should do?
I think Malone crossed the line with this. I'm very disappointed that he doesn't seem to be the political leader of ALL of the people of Portsmouth, but only of his chosen flock of believers.
You have a distorted view. It seems that you are guilty of the very thing you accuse Mr. Malone of. Your words lead me to believe that you only support a public official that conforms to everything YOU believe. Further, your myopic analysis suggests that no politician could ever discharge their duties in a way you see fit. After all, some of them are pro-life and others are not. Some feel there are too many social progrmas. Some want to give all your money to people that don't work.

How could anyone live up to your expectations? The truth is, you are just pissed off that he doesn't believe the same things you believe. Well tough shit. Diversity in thought (a version of freedom) is one of the base values of this country.
questioning

Ashville, OH

#15 Feb 19, 2012
You know, you may have a point. I don't know what the right answer is. I DO believe America is a land of diversity and acceptance, though, and the vilifying of certain segments of society can potentially cause harm to the children we are hoping will lead the world one day. I don't expect all politicians to agree with me, though. I just expect them to not insult a part of the local population while disagreeing with me! Also, and I may be reading more into this than I should- if the Mayors interpretation of the Bible is what he runs the city by, then what about the Catholics, or the Jews, the Pagans? Are they all an abomination, or just wrong, in his eyes, because they view the Bible differently than he does? And really, I am questioning, and appreciate you not attacking me, because I do want to understand this better, and also figure out why this does bother me so much.
Martyr Machine wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a distorted view. It seems that you are guilty of the very thing you accuse Mr. Malone of. Your words lead me to believe that you only support a public official that conforms to everything YOU believe. Further, your myopic analysis suggests that no politician could ever discharge their duties in a way you see fit. After all, some of them are pro-life and others are not. Some feel there are too many social programs. Some want to give all your money to people that don't work.
How could anyone live up to your expectations? The truth is, you are just pissed off that he doesn't believe the same things you believe. Well tough shit. Diversity in thought (a version of freedom) is one of the base values of this country.

“Two stones with one bird”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#16 Feb 19, 2012
questioning wrote:
You know, you may have a point. I don't know what the right answer is. I DO believe America is a land of diversity and acceptance, though, and the vilifying of certain segments of society can potentially cause harm to the children we are hoping will lead the world one day. I don't expect all politicians to agree with me, though. I just expect them to not insult a part of the local population while disagreeing with me! Also, and I may be reading more into this than I should- if the Mayors interpretation of the Bible is what he runs the city by, then what about the Catholics, or the Jews, the Pagans? Are they all an abomination, or just wrong, in his eyes, because they view the Bible differently than he does? And really, I am questioning, and appreciate you not attacking me, because I do want to understand this better, and also figure out why this does bother me so much.<quoted text>
Everyone seems to be mad because the guy has a kid by another woman, but he is using the bible as his reason for not supporting gays. He is using the bible when it is convenient for him and then ignoring it when his actions go against it.

Even though I am not religious I can see why a lot of people might be pissed off on both sides.
questioning

Ashville, OH

#17 Feb 20, 2012
See, I didn't even know about that...
I wrote, elsewhere:"I'm so so heavy hearted at what I perceive to be the mixing of politics and religion. From being hopeful that a man with ethics and integrity could do some good, to now being concerned because I am perhaps not of the correct "chosen" religious bent that our Mayor represents. I respected him as a Reverend, and as a Mayor, but I had always hoped he would never cross the line and cite the Bible as a reason for his political decisions. What else does the Bible consider an abomination? Anyone? Help me understand this conflict..." and also "I am just so disheartened by a man who has done so much over the years for and with the youth of our community to take a stand that will potentially harm conflicted children, and drive them away from ANY church, rather than towards a church or religious community that will love them." because in my life, my kids lives, he and his brother did start out as coaches...so to the youth of today, his opinion matters, because he gained their trust and respect when they were children.
Martyr Machine wrote:
<quoted text>
Everyone seems to be mad because the guy has a kid by another woman, but he is using the bible as his reason for not supporting gays.
Ha Ha

Waverly, OH

#18 Feb 20, 2012
This is showing up in the queer magazine. Every faggot in the country is now going to be on here running their mouths. That's all they do is run from one story to another all over the country on every gay issue that comes out in their papers.
Next they will be calling him a racist. HAHA
Just Saying

Columbus, OH

#19 Feb 20, 2012
Ha Ha wrote:
This is showing up in the queer magazine. Every faggot in the country is now going to be on here running their mouths. That's all they do is run from one story to another all over the country on every gay issue that comes out in their papers.
Next they will be calling him a racist. HAHA
Most black people are huge racist ..........

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#20 Feb 20, 2012
Ha Ha wrote:
This is showing up in the queer magazine. Every faggot in the country is now going to be on here running their mouths. That's all they do is run from one story to another all over the country on every gay issue that comes out in their papers.
Next they will be calling him a racist. HAHA
I see you are in the mayor's little bigot club. At least we know YOU'LL be represented in town, don't we.

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