Brutal videos fuel Russian anti-gay c...

Brutal videos fuel Russian anti-gay campaign

There are 140 comments on the BBC News story from Sep 1, 2013, titled Brutal videos fuel Russian anti-gay campaign. In it, BBC News reports that:

At the Lighthouse Cabaret Club in Sochi, host city of the 2014 Winter Olympics, the music is loud, the tobacco smoke thick and the dance floor packed with gay couples enjoying an evening out.

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gorman

San Jose, CA

#101 Sep 8, 2013
Just Another Christian wrote:
Once again you mock me and respond with hatefulness when I have not said or done anything .
Why are you trying to reason with people who are mentally ill?

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#102 Sep 8, 2013
Archbishop Desmond Tutu:

"Hate has no place in the house of God. No one should be excluded from our love, our compassion or our concern because of race or gender, faith or ethnicity -- or because of their sexual orientation.

Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people are part of so many families. They are part of the human family. They are part of God's family. And of course they are part of the African family. But a wave of hate is spreading across my beloved continent. People are again being denied their fundamental rights and freedoms.

That this pandering to intolerance is being done by politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures is not surprising. But it is a great wrong. An even larger offense is that it is being done in the name of God. Show me where Christ said "Love thy fellow man, except for the gay ones." Gay people, too, are made in my God's image. I would never worship a homophobic God.

The wave of hate must stop. Politicians who profit from exploiting this hate, from fanning it, must not be tempted by this easy way to profit from fear and misunderstanding. And my fellow clerics, of all faiths, must stand up for the principles of universal dignity and fellowship. Exclusion is never the way forward on our shared paths to freedom and justice."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#103 Sep 8, 2013
Just Another Christian wrote:
@Curteese...and all the like-minded:
Why do so many members of the GLBT group spew so much HATE towards the church and towards Christians?!?! It's ironic you accuse them of all of these things...but it's you who persecutes the church. The MAJORITY of Christians do NOT hate or bash GLBT's! You have a very SMALL group of people who claim to be Christians that say truly vile things and yet you target us as a whole. You should treat people the way you want to be treated. While it is true that MOST Christians don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle, it doesn't change our love for the people. I have many GLB friends and family, I love them dearly. No, I don't agree with that part of their life...but GUESS WHAT?!?! They don't need my approval. So it's all good. AND!!!....GUESS WHAT ELSE?!?! They ALSO don't agree with EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING about MY lifestyle! YET, WE STILL LOVE EACH OTHER! What a WILD concept! I don't run off pouting and saying, "THEY HATE ME!" ...just because they don't approve of every little thing I do. Grow up. Seriously.
I just want to know when all of the hate and bashing will stop! I want to know when will this group who claims to want peace, love and acceptance- stop living a double standard?
A fundamental difference you seem to ignore is that religious organizations have been using the law to punish and harm gay people all our lives, while gay people have not been using the law to deny to Christians the equal rights we expect for ourselves. It has been and continues to be religious based organizations who deny to others the rights they expect for themselves.

Not all Christian groups or leaders judge and condemn, and some accept gay people as we are without condition. But those who continue to stigmatize, demonize, and punish us, are still abusing and killing us.

The hate and bashing can only stop when all decide to treat others as they would themselves under the law, as well as in life.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#104 Sep 8, 2013
gorman wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you trying to reason with people who are mentally ill?
Stigmatizing, dehumanizing personal attacks remain the refuge of those with no valid argument on the merits.
putin is a punk

United States

#105 Sep 8, 2013
i bet putin secretly likes little boys gay porn pedophile putin gay child molester, he likes little boys dont ya putin.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#106 Sep 8, 2013
putin is a punk wrote:
i bet putin secretly likes little boys gay porn pedophile putin gay child molester, he likes little boys dont ya putin.
I don't think so, but he might have been a victim of one of Russia's many kinds of predators.

Come to think of it, they prey on each other a lot and call it "strength".

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#107 Sep 8, 2013
gorman wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you trying to reason with people who are mentally ill?
Why can't you pick one name and stick with it, LITTLE cowardly liar?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#108 Sep 8, 2013
Just Another Christian wrote:
Once again you mock me and respond with hatefulness when I have not said or done anything offensive toward you. You have so much hate inside, it saddens me. My faith isn't the least bit shaky, I'm not even sure where you drew that conclusion. I was merely posing the question of why you say you want the GLBT community to be treated with kindness and respect, yet you choose to target an entire group because of some of the nuts that stand out in that group. It bothers me because I believe in standing up for anyone who is being bullied over their religion, race, sexual orientation, or even for everyday choices they make about their general appearances, things they do or don't like, whether they're vegan or not...etc. Bullying is never okay. There's never a time where it's appropriate, and no matter how much you want to, you can't justify it. Instead of owning any wrong, you want to retaliate and strike at me. If this situation was reversed, and it was me attacking you- how well do you think this whole conversation would go over?
You say, "Once in a great while, some REAL Christian who GETS it comes on here and is loving and non judgemental..." that statement alone is extremely judgemental. You are judging the "REAL Christians" now from the phonies? To what standard do you hold these "REAL Christians?" Do they have to agree with everything you believe in to be considered a "real" christian? Or can they have beliefs that differ from yours? Also, you praise these Christians who stand out to you and have shown you kindness, but you turn around and make posts that are offensive and demeaning to ALL Christians. So you admittedly are returning their kindness with hate.
I'm not trying to provoke you. I'm trying to make you think. I'm not asking you to bow down and worship Christ. I wouldn't complain if you did, but I'm not trying to convert you. lol. I'm just asking that you think about the things you are saying and stop being a cyber bully.
Peace, love and God Bless.
See post # 95 and tell me how "kind" of non hateful THAT is. Then, come back and say just where and when I said ANYTHING about your religion. Just one quote, please.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#111 Sep 8, 2013
Tom Cruise, come out of the closet.
Honorable Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>UNrepentant queers burn in hell, aint it great?!?!
WOO HOO

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#114 Sep 8, 2013
Honorable Mayor wrote:
<quoted text>UNrepentant queers burn in hell, aint it great?!?!
WOO HOO
Yeah, whatever. Some religious role model you are. What're your plans for 9-11, a big happy party with balloons and clowns? I wouldn't be surprised.
Just Another Christian

Elizabethtown, KY

#115 Sep 9, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
A fundamental difference you seem to ignore is that religious organizations have been using the law to punish and harm gay people all our lives, while gay people have not been using the law to deny to Christians the equal rights we expect for ourselves. It has been and continues to be religious based organizations who deny to others the rights they expect for themselves.
Not all Christian groups or leaders judge and condemn, and some accept gay people as we are without condition. But those who continue to stigmatize, demonize, and punish us, are still abusing and killing us.
The hate and bashing can only stop when all decide to treat others as they would themselves under the law, as well as in life.
I'm not ignoring that,'Not Yet Equal.' I think you're missing my point. Let me first say, I don't think it's right for anyone to say who can and cannot marry, etc. I don't believe it's right for me to hold my neighbor to any of my religious convictions. To me, telling gays and lesbians they can't marry is as stupid as passing a law against having sex before marriage...or getting drunk. Or like a Vegan group passing a law that no one can eat meat because they don't think it's right. That's a childish way of thinking. There are several Christian groups that don't agree with the ones who are so strong against gay marriage. Some feel like I do (that it's not our business who you choose to marry) and some Christian groups even support gay marriage. My point is that all Christians cannot be lumped together and labeled as "filthy, disgusting trouble-makers" as Curteese referred to. Even saying that "the only part of communism that made sense was the disgust of religion." My point was that he (or anyone else) shouldn't target an entire group because not everyone in that group is that way. Take Muslims; for example. You have some radical Muslims that want to kill all Jews, all Americans, etc. but it's still horribly wrong to call ALL Muslims terroristsic Hitlers. There are some very peaceful Muslims! It's just that the loud & scary ones get all of the attention.
I'm just asking that we Christians not be judged or made to feel ashamed of our belonging to the "filthy disgusting" church ;-)
Just Another Christian

Elizabethtown, KY

#116 Sep 9, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>See post # 95 and tell me how "kind" of non hateful THAT is. Then, come back and say just where and when I said ANYTHING about your religion. Just one quote, please.
See reply to "Not Equal Yet"

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#117 Sep 9, 2013
Just Another Christian wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not ignoring that,'Not Yet Equal.' I think you're missing my point. Let me first say, I don't think it's right for anyone to say who can and cannot marry, etc. I don't believe it's right for me to hold my neighbor to any of my religious convictions. To me, telling gays and lesbians they can't marry is as stupid as passing a law against having sex before marriage...or getting drunk. Or like a Vegan group passing a law that no one can eat meat because they don't think it's right. That's a childish way of thinking. There are several Christian groups that don't agree with the ones who are so strong against gay marriage. Some feel like I do (that it's not our business who you choose to marry) and some Christian groups even support gay marriage. My point is that all Christians cannot be lumped together and labeled as "filthy, disgusting trouble-makers" as Curteese referred to. Even saying that "the only part of communism that made sense was the disgust of religion." My point was that he (or anyone else) shouldn't target an entire group because not everyone in that group is that way. Take Muslims; for example. You have some radical Muslims that want to kill all Jews, all Americans, etc. but it's still horribly wrong to call ALL Muslims terroristsic Hitlers. There are some very peaceful Muslims! It's just that the loud & scary ones get all of the attention.
I'm just asking that we Christians not be judged or made to feel ashamed of our belonging to the "filthy disgusting" church ;-)
What others think should make absolutely no difference to you. Unless you are insecure, or unsure, why does what anyone says upset you, since you are saved and assured a really GOOD room in Heaven, probably with a view of the golf course and FREE mini bar.
jason norris

Benfleet, UK

#118 Sep 9, 2013
The word is not GAY,but SAD.( Sodomites and Dykes )

Arse jockeys, rug suckers.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#119 Sep 9, 2013
Just Another Christian wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not ignoring that,'Not Yet Equal.' I think you're missing my point. Let me first say, I don't think it's right for anyone to say who can and cannot marry, etc. I don't believe it's right for me to hold my neighbor to any of my religious convictions. To me, telling gays and lesbians they can't marry is as stupid as passing a law against having sex before marriage...or getting drunk. Or like a Vegan group passing a law that no one can eat meat because they don't think it's right. That's a childish way of thinking. There are several Christian groups that don't agree with the ones who are so strong against gay marriage. Some feel like I do (that it's not our business who you choose to marry) and some Christian groups even support gay marriage. My point is that all Christians cannot be lumped together and labeled as "filthy, disgusting trouble-makers" as Curteese referred to. Even saying that "the only part of communism that made sense was the disgust of religion." My point was that he (or anyone else) shouldn't target an entire group because not everyone in that group is that way. Take Muslims; for example. You have some radical Muslims that want to kill all Jews, all Americans, etc. but it's still horribly wrong to call ALL Muslims terroristsic Hitlers. There are some very peaceful Muslims! It's just that the loud & scary ones get all of the attention.
I'm just asking that we Christians not be judged or made to feel ashamed of our belonging to the "filthy disgusting" church ;-)
The religious based hate displayed on this thread alone, provides plenty of evidence that the prejudice and discrimination being promoted uses religious belief as justification for harming others. If you want religious believers and organizations to stop being seen as haters and promoters of harmful prejudice and discrimination, you should be addressing those who are promoting harm in the name of their religion, not those who are resisting it.

While true not all religious leaders, believers, and organizations promote anti-gay prejudice and discrimination, the anti gay laws are funded and promoted primarily by those who claim religion as their excuse for contradicting the Golden Rule.
Just Another Christian

Elizabethtown, KY

#120 Sep 9, 2013
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>What others think should make absolutely no difference to you. Unless you are insecure, or unsure, why does what anyone says upset you, since you are saved and assured a really GOOD room in Heaven, probably with a view of the golf course and FREE mini bar.
I've already addressed this with you. I have no doubts. No uncertainties. I just don't tolerate your bullying. I'm obviously going to have to be the mature one here and walk away from this conversation because your bickering lacks any logic. I bring across valid points and you continue to retaliate like a child. You are a very poor representation of the GLBT community and I pray that other people who don't know many gay people won't assume the rest of them are as bitter and vindictive as you. I won't engage any further in your immaturity. You truly do need help. I hope you get the help you need. Otherwise you will continue to be a very empty, miserable human being who fulfills his life by putting down everyone else to make yourself feel better.
Small Town America UGX

West Palm Beach, FL

#121 Sep 9, 2013
Not Yet Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
The religious based hate displayed on this thread alone, provides plenty of evidence that the prejudice and discrimination being promoted uses religious belief as justification for harming others. If you want religious believers and organizations to stop being seen as haters and promoters of harmful prejudice and discrimination, you should be addressing those who are promoting harm in the name of their religion, not those who are resisting it.

While true not all religious leaders, believers, and organizations promote anti-gay prejudice and discrimination, the anti gay laws are funded and promoted primarily by those who claim religion as their excuse for contradicting the Golden Rule.
You do not have to be religious to dislike jingoistic HIV infested perverts and child molesters who wish to rekindle the cold war. Perhaps if you stayed out of other nations internal politics and kept it in the closet where it belongs...?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#122 Sep 9, 2013
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not have to be religious to dislike jingoistic HIV infested perverts and child molesters who wish to rekindle the cold war. Perhaps if you stayed out of other nations internal politics and kept it in the closet where it belongs...?
.

Sticks you old fool, I thought you were dead. Hehehe.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#123 Sep 9, 2013
Small Town America UGX wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not have to be religious to dislike ...
Your post demonstrates the point I was making.

It is you who wishes to harm others by denial of legal equality.

Your demonizing, dehumanizing prejudice provides no rational governmental excuse for refusing to treat others as you would yourself under the law.
davy

Albuquerque, NM

#124 Sep 9, 2013
Mr. "I got diddled by daddy" is back.
The AssTroll Stopper wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey queer, did you say you're name was Sandusky?

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