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Empathy for Portman at CPAC, but Positions Remain Steadfast

There are 70 comments on the rollcall.com story from Mar 15, 2013, titled Empathy for Portman at CPAC, but Positions Remain Steadfast. In it, rollcall.com reports that:

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Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#63 Mar 21, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>More have died under Obama in his escalated war than under Bush, so yes sweetie, you are a walking blood bank.
America has loss 2190 Troops since we've been in Afghanistan, we loss more than 4800 in Iraq.

We still don't know why we were in Iraq now that it's proven the intelligence that sent out troops into Iraq was all created by Bush and Cheney to justify invading Iraq.

Especially when you consider we could have killed or captured Bin Laden in Tora Bora in 2002 instead of dragging out the engagement in Afghanistan by diverting our troops to Iraq instead of pursuing Bin Laden in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#64 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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America has loss 2190 Troops since we've been in Afghanistan, we loss more than 4800 in Iraq.
We still don't know why we were in Iraq now that it's proven the intelligence that sent out troops into Iraq was all created by Bush and Cheney to justify invading Iraq.
Especially when you consider we could have killed or captured Bin Laden in Tora Bora in 2002 instead of dragging out the engagement in Afghanistan by diverting our troops to Iraq instead of pursuing Bin Laden in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
We invaded Iraq to depose the Saddam regime and kill Saddam. We accomplished both goals.(Whether it was worth the cost in blood and treasure is debatable. Bottom line, I don't think it was worth the cost. It coul've been done by much cheaper means in blood, AND treasure).
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#65 Mar 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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We invaded Iraq to depose the Saddam regime and kill Saddam. We accomplished both goals.(Whether it was worth the cost in blood and treasure is debatable. Bottom line, I don't think it was worth the cost. It coul've been done by much cheaper means in blood, AND treasure).
Amazing how America never invades a nation with a brutal regime to depose a dictator were there are no Oil reserves associated with that Country?

The Bush excuse was Weapons of Mass Destruction, conveniently that justification change when there was no evidence of WMDs. But the lies remained firmly in place on the tapes of the many hearing and procedures leading up to the occupation of Iraq.

NATO, France and Germany were right not to support the Invasion of Iraq

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#66 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Amazing how America never invades a nation with a brutal regime to depose a dictator were there are no Oil reserves associated with that Country?
The Bush excuse was Weapons of Mass Destruction, conveniently that justification change when there was no evidence of WMDs. But the lies remained firmly in place on the tapes of the many hearing and procedures leading up to the occupation of Iraq.
NATO, France and Germany were right not to support the Invasion of Iraq
Well, I have read over the years, that Saddam mae an offer to leave Iraq if he could take 1 billion dollars with him, AND not face any international legal consequences. Supposedly Bush turned down that offer which, if the story is true, I think was a big mistake.

Also, since Saddam DID plot to kill Bush41, you can't discount the possibilty that PART of the reason for the invasion was to avenge that.

Also, Saddam was a brutal dictator who was responsible for perhaps a million deaths or more. He invaded and attacked several countries in his brief reign. How many countries does a dictator have to attack or invade before we get rid of him ? Now why do most people NOT have a problem with teh U.S. attacking Germany in WWII to destroy Hitler, when Hitler did NOT attack us, yet they DO have a problem with us invading Iraq to depose Saddam for basically the same reasons that we attacked Germany ?
Eric Gustafson

Virginia Beach, VA

#67 Mar 21, 2013
Because today all evidence leading to the initial Gulf War appears to be just as manufactured as the Intelligence justifying America's invasion of Iraq under Bush Jr.

There is no documented evidence of an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait That is among the reasons that our NATO Allies refused to support the invasion of Iraq. Each has intelligence suggesting the America evidence was false and misleading.
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Well, I have read over the years, that Saddam mae an offer to leave Iraq if he could take 1 billion dollars with him, AND not face any international legal consequences. Supposedly Bush turned down that offer which, if the story is true, I think was a big mistake.
Also, since Saddam DID plot to kill Bush41, you can't discount the possibilty that PART of the reason for the invasion was to avenge that.
Also, Saddam was a brutal dictator who was responsible for perhaps a million deaths or more. He invaded and attacked several countries in his brief reign. How many countries does a dictator have to attack or invade before we get rid of him ? Now why do most people NOT have a problem with teh U.S. attacking Germany in WWII to destroy Hitler, when Hitler did NOT attack us, yet they DO have a problem with us invading Iraq to depose Saddam for basically the same reasons that we attacked Germany ?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#68 Mar 21, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Because today all evidence leading to the initial Gulf War appears to be just as manufactured as the Intelligence justifying America's invasion of Iraq under Bush Jr.
There is no documented evidence of an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait That is among the reasons that our NATO Allies refused to support the invasion of Iraq. Each has intelligence suggesting the America evidence was false and misleading.
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Iraq didn't invade Kuwait ?! CNN was LYING ?!(oh my !)

The invasion of Iraq during the Persian Gulf War in 1991 was NOT accomplished by U.S. military forces WITH forces from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, Great Britain, and France, along with forces in other ares from Canada, Egypt, and The United Arab Emirates ?!

“JESUS WOULD IMPEACH THE GOP!!!”

Since: May 09

Lake Success, N.Y.

#69 Mar 22, 2013
Le Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>More have died under Obama in his escalated war than under Bush, so yes sweetie, you are a walking blood bank.
Again, no proof Dumbo, right?

Forgot that Bush left only 10,000 troops in afghanistan stupid? More cops in NYC than that you parasite. Instead, Bush started a pre-emptive war in Iraq, killing almost 5000 troops azzwipe!

Now we're out of Iraq - and drawing down in Afghanitan after leaving that war totally alone for almost 8 years stupid.

Yoiu think you can compare 5000 troops killed, 500,000 Iraqi civilians killed, 1.5 million displaced, all under Bush, compared to 577 deaths in Afghanistan dummy?

You truly are a fcuking retard!

http://www.answercoalition.org/sf/news/afghan...

Now, go drink some Draino.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#70 Mar 23, 2013
Jose wrote:
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To compare the Iraq lie, war and massive destruction and death based on lies which Bush/Cheney orchestrated is a far cry from drones in Afghanistan BUT I will agree with you about the Dems and media being mute and looking the other way .
In the last 7 yrs or so any person who picks up a weapon against us in Afghanistan because they simply want us out or because we have killed their son,etc in collateral damage be it from drones,etc, we now categorize as Taliban.
This BS was used by Bush and Obama does the same damn thing while the media and UN bury their bias heads up their azz.
Let me explain the facts of the matter to you. Obama cannot stop the drones or what's going on in Afghanistan. Why? For the same reasons we went there in the first place! The pipeline and poppy fields. We will never leave that area, regardless of who's president and that should tell you all something. If President Obama were to pull out of Afghanistan what happened to JFK would happen to him also and for the same reasons.

Think about it or watch the Youtube video the speech that got JFK killed. Am I saying it's right? Absolutely not, I am a realist. However, some puppets are more willing to be used than others for profit, if you catch my drift.

Since: May 08

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#71 Mar 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Iraq didn't invade Kuwait ?! CNN was LYING ?!(oh my !)
The invasion of Iraq during the Persian Gulf War in 1991 was NOT accomplished by U.S. military forces WITH forces from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, Great Britain, and France, along with forces in other ares from Canada, Egypt, and The United Arab Emirates ?!
To protect Kuwait's oil! Do you dummies realize that every Kuwait child born receives exactly 1 million dollars? That's how filthy rich they are. Meanwhile, you struggling joes bought into the bs and lies so that the wealthier can get wealthier and the corporation can profit. We protect Kuwait and Saudia Arabia for the same reasons, CORPORATE PROFITS with the blood of our troops. Sadaam was a continual threat to Kuwait which once was a part of Iraq. With the embargos against his country they were desperate for money and he had to be done away with.

The original plan was Iraq, Iran, Afganistan and Libya. Checkmate except for Iran (which is still on the table!) Then the entire middle-east and all its oil reserves will be protected for Corporations, NOT US!

Since: May 08

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#72 Mar 23, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Iraq didn't invade Kuwait ?! CNN was LYING ?!(oh my !)
The invasion of Iraq during the Persian Gulf War in 1991 was NOT accomplished by U.S. military forces WITH forces from Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, Great Britain, and France, along with forces in other ares from Canada, Egypt, and The United Arab Emirates ?!
You remind me so much of the perverse lawyer, Roy Cohen. Where do creatures like you come from?

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