Should Gay/Lesbian Club be Allowed at...

Should Gay/Lesbian Club be Allowed at High School?

There are 39 comments on the KIII story from Feb 28, 2011, titled Should Gay/Lesbian Club be Allowed at High School?. In it, KIII reports that:

A controversial issue is being debated at Flour Bluff High School: Should a student be allowed to start an on-campus gay and lesbian support club? The Flour Bluff superintendent says she will not approve any on-campus meetings of a club like that, but the students who want it say that amounts to unfair discrimination.

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Bluffmom

Corpus Christi, TX

#1 Mar 1, 2011
There should be NO clubs on-campus that have the sole requirement for admission being sexual orientation. If the club wants to meet elsewhere, more power to them. School is for academics and learning, not for exploring sexual orientation. The same goes for religion-based clubs. There are other places to meet, the school should not be one of them.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#2 Mar 1, 2011
Call in the ACLU. You WILL have a club, no matter what the superintedent says. The club will accept everyone. Gay-Straight Alliance.
tolerance

Corpus Christi, TX

#3 Mar 1, 2011
OK, gay straight alliance isn't just for gay people! Its to show support of different orientations and plenty of straight people join to show they are not close minded and judgmental, being a mother don't you think that is a lesson that you should instill in your children? Or would you want them to judge others and be judged themselves? How would you like it if you were told you weren't allowed to have athletics because to many children weren't in it? But that's different right? Spanish clubs usually have students of other races, but bc its Spanish club does that mean everyone should be Spanish? Or what about the Christian athletes clubs? What about the fact not all children in school are religious, so does that mean the club shouldn't be in existence? Aren't schools supposed to support the growing and education of our children? I don't know about you, but I want my child to make her own decisions and not feel like she is being discriminated against. I want her to know that although people may not agree with that choice, if its what she chooses, she wont be told its not ok to be who she is. Sexual orientation isn't what the club is about, showing tolerance is what its about. I think its a lesson YOU need to learn. This isn't the 1960s anymore.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#4 Mar 1, 2011
Bluffmom wrote:
There should be NO clubs on-campus that have the sole requirement for admission being sexual orientation. If the club wants to meet elsewhere, more power to them. School is for academics and learning, not for exploring sexual orientation. The same goes for religion-based clubs. There are other places to meet, the school should not be one of them.
You are morally wrong and legally wrong. The federal Equal Access Act LEGALLY REQUIRES Gay-Straight Alliances, and similar clubs, to be allowed to meet on school grounds if any other type of club, such as a Chess Club, or an Ecology Club, to meet on school grounds. The law says you MUST allow ALL, or you MUST forbid ALL, but you cannot pick and choose which ones to allow, because you "like" them, and which ones to forbid, because you do "not like" them.

YOU may find it ironic that this act of congress was passed at the INSISTENCE of some so-called "Christian" groups, because their "Christian Clubs" were being banned by some schools from meeting on their property.

So-called "Christians" above all should remember the old maxim. "Be careful what you wish for !"

LOL
Bluffmom

Corpus Christi, TX

#5 Mar 1, 2011
Wow. Talk about closeminded. If my post had actually been READ, I wouldn't be being attacked. The school is for academics and learning. Want a club? More power to you. If it has nothing to do with academics, it shouldn't be at the SCHOOL. I said NOTHING about the moral or legal implications of homosexuality or heterosexuality. I don't care one way or the other. I don't base my associaltions with people on their sexual orientation.

"Aren't schools supposed to support the growing and education of our children" THAT WAS MY POINT! The education of our children. Just exactly what does a gay-straight alliance do for the education of our children?

IF the club is academically based (ie. Spanish, French, poetry, reading, athletics, robotics, ecology, etc) then there wouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, then find another meeting place! It has nothing to do with intolerance or homophobia or anything else. It has to do with academics. Is that so hard to understand?

“I love my wife. :)”

Since: Mar 08

Seattle, WA

#6 Mar 1, 2011
Bluffmom wrote:
Wow. Talk about closeminded. If my post had actually been READ, I wouldn't be being attacked. The school is for academics and learning. Want a club? More power to you. If it has nothing to do with academics, it shouldn't be at the SCHOOL. I said NOTHING about the moral or legal implications of homosexuality or heterosexuality. I don't care one way or the other. I don't base my associaltions with people on their sexual orientation.
"Aren't schools supposed to support the growing and education of our children" THAT WAS MY POINT! The education of our children. Just exactly what does a gay-straight alliance do for the education of our children?
IF the club is academically based (ie. Spanish, French, poetry, reading, athletics, robotics, ecology, etc) then there wouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, then find another meeting place! It has nothing to do with intolerance or homophobia or anything else. It has to do with academics. Is that so hard to understand?
If it must be related to academics for you to think it is acceptable as a school club: fine- it's related to sociology/government/anthropol ogy/biology.

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#7 Mar 1, 2011
If Spanish clubs are allowed, all clubs (within the obvious limits of legality) have to be allowed, that's federal law.

If it's all about academics, why are there football teams, there's nothing academic about that, but I'm going to venture a guess that high-school football is pretty big in Corpus Christi. Heck, I'll bet there are all kinds of high-school sports that take place there.
Bluffmom wrote:
Wow. Talk about closeminded. If my post had actually been READ, I wouldn't be being attacked. The school is for academics and learning. Want a club? More power to you. If it has nothing to do with academics, it shouldn't be at the SCHOOL. I said NOTHING about the moral or legal implications of homosexuality or heterosexuality. I don't care one way or the other. I don't base my associaltions with people on their sexual orientation.
"Aren't schools supposed to support the growing and education of our children" THAT WAS MY POINT! The education of our children. Just exactly what does a gay-straight alliance do for the education of our children?
IF the club is academically based (ie. Spanish, French, poetry, reading, athletics, robotics, ecology, etc) then there wouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, then find another meeting place! It has nothing to do with intolerance or homophobia or anything else. It has to do with academics. Is that so hard to understand?

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#8 Mar 1, 2011
You have serious issues here, or are at least seriously misinformed about what GSAs are. There is no sexual orientation requirement for GSAs, they, like all clubs, are open to all students. That's the way it works, it's too bad you don't have your facts in order.
Bluffmom wrote:
There should be NO clubs on-campus that have the sole requirement for admission being sexual orientation. If the club wants to meet elsewhere, more power to them. School is for academics and learning, not for exploring sexual orientation. The same goes for religion-based clubs. There are other places to meet, the school should not be one of them.

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#9 Mar 1, 2011
Very good points, Venus!
Venus_Rearmed wrote:
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If it must be related to academics for you to think it is acceptable as a school club: fine- it's related to sociology/government/anthropol ogy/biology.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#10 Mar 1, 2011
Bluffmom wrote:
Wow. Talk about closeminded. If my post had actually been READ, I wouldn't be being attacked. The school is for academics and learning. Want a club? More power to you. If it has nothing to do with academics, it shouldn't be at the SCHOOL. I said NOTHING about the moral or legal implications of homosexuality or heterosexuality. I don't care one way or the other. I don't base my associaltions with people on their sexual orientation.
"Aren't schools supposed to support the growing and education of our children" THAT WAS MY POINT! The education of our children. Just exactly what does a gay-straight alliance do for the education of our children?
IF the club is academically based (ie. Spanish, French, poetry, reading, athletics, robotics, ecology, etc) then there wouldn't be a problem. If it isn't, then find another meeting place! It has nothing to do with intolerance or homophobia or anything else. It has to do with academics. Is that so hard to understand?
Re-red my post. The federal Equal Access Act LEGALLY REQUIRES ANY club to be allowed to meet on school grounds IF any other club is also allowed to. It has nothing to do with a GSA. If the Chess Club is allowed to meet on school grounds, then s to must the Checkers Club be allowed to meet, the Bible Club, the Jewish Club, and the Stamp Collectors Club.

THAT'S THE LAW !
well

Corpus Christi, TX

#11 Mar 1, 2011
if its done on campus off school time then yes. just not during school time, not even during their breaks of any kind. not hating just concerned of all our kids futures and schooling, including the gay.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#12 Mar 1, 2011
well wrote:
if its done on campus off school time then yes. just not during school time, not even during their breaks of any kind. not hating just concerned of all our kids futures and schooling, including the gay.
Apparently, you should've spent more time in school to learn to write English correctly.
well

Corpus Christi, TX

#13 Mar 2, 2011
oh so your a lawyer and a teacher now? that's so gay. did you learn that @ school?
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#14 Mar 2, 2011
well wrote:
oh so your a lawyer and a teacher now? that's so gay. did you learn that @ school?
Yes.

While you on the other hand, have amply demonstrated that you either did not attend school, or did not pay attention in school.
lol

Corpus Christi, TX

#15 Mar 2, 2011
so your a psycic now? dam, thats so gay
outtaPville

United States

#16 Mar 2, 2011
Frank Stanton wrote:
<quoted text>
Re-red my post. The federal Equal Access Act LEGALLY REQUIRES ANY club to be allowed to meet on school grounds IF any other club is also allowed to. It has nothing to do with a GSA. If the Chess Club is allowed to meet on school grounds, then s to must the Checkers Club be allowed to meet, the Bible Club, the Jewish Club, and the Stamp Collectors Club.
THAT'S THE LAW !
Be this as it may, what should be done when a student wishes to start a club and hold meetings on school property for teen Nazis? Or how about a club for teen KKK? Would a teen Nudist club be allowed to meet at the school? I don't think any of these clubs exist, yet I'm beginning to think it won't be long until these become happening groups on campus. Best to you.
Frank Stanton

New York, NY

#17 Mar 3, 2011
outtaPville wrote:
<quoted text>
Be this as it may, what should be done when a student wishes to start a club and hold meetings on school property for teen Nazis? Or how about a club for teen KKK? Would a teen Nudist club be allowed to meet at the school? I don't think any of these clubs exist, yet I'm beginning to think it won't be long until these become happening groups on campus. Best to you.
I doubt what you say will happen, because this law has been on the book for DECADES, and it hasn't yet. Besides, I think you need an adult "adviser" for any club, and I doubt any teacher would want to be associated with any of the kinds of clubs you mentioned.
Anonymous

Elgin, TX

#18 Mar 3, 2011
Does anyone know where Kyle leisman is at?
liar

Corpus Christi, TX

#19 Mar 3, 2011
probably trying to open a gay bar at the school
Janna

Corpus Christi, TX

#20 Mar 8, 2011
Bluffmom wrote:
There should be NO clubs on-campus that have the sole requirement for admission being sexual orientation. If the club wants to meet elsewhere, more power to them. School is for academics and learning, not for exploring sexual orientation. The same goes for religion-based clubs. There are other places to meet, the school should not be one of them.
Very well said.

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