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CO Baker Found Guilty for Denying Gay Couple Wedding Cake - May Face a Year in Jail

There are 16410 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Dec 8, 2013, titled CO Baker Found Guilty for Denying Gay Couple Wedding Cake - May Face a Year in Jail. In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

Gay activists protest the Masterpiece Cakeshop in 2012. Owner Jack Phillips now faces charges for not baking a cake for the gay couple.

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#17244 Jul 27, 2014
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5lAj-UUiANEXX
Well, very interesting!!!

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#17245 Jul 27, 2014
I now know what 1313 stands for.

Last night at dinner I was showing some of comrade peter1313's hate filled posts to my cousin and his friends and this morning I get an email from one of them saying he knows what 1313 stands for.

Here it is:

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#17246 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
The contract the baker willingly entered with the state determines the LEGAL decisions for the bakery. Are you saying you can renege on a contract whenever you feel like it?
<quoted text>
You know what I am saying; you just don't like it because it removes authority from your God to micromanage all our lives.

You remind me of the skinny sissymary who was approached by 3 huge black thugs who asked him to willingly agree to show them his wallet. We can all be sure he "willingly" agreed can't we Miss 1313.

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#17247 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
And the gay couple didn't suffer?
<quoted text>
Walking down the street to order a gay wedding cake from a gay owned bakery that specializes in making gay wedding cakes is suffering?

Or are you talking about being told, "I do not make wedding cakes for gay weddings"?

Now let us compare that to trained killers from the government entering your place of business and demanding you appear in court. You are worried sick about spending a year in prison and a $10,000.00 fine because you didn't want to bake a cake. Then you have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on an attorney, you lose a whole day of work, to appear in court, over and over until the final ruling. The whole time you can't get it out of your head that you could go to prison for a year, have to pay a $10,000.00 fine and your attorney fees keep adding up, all because you didn't agree to bake a cake, although you offered brownies for the reception.

What the gay couple experienced is like a fire-cracker on the fourth of July and what the baker experienced was more like WW2.

Now, I do not like what the baker did, and I do not like the baker very much because it was bit silly in this day and age to refuse, but that does not mean he doesn't have the right to be a complete fucking idiot and refuse, he does. Business owners make all kinds of stupid mistakes all the time, just watch all the programs where professionals rescue failing bars and restaurants. The owners are stupid and Free Market Capitalism fixes them by putting them out of business. We do NOT need your Government God to solve our problems. We can and do solve them for ourselves.

Do you think gay people and people like me who support the gay community would go to Jack Phillips bakery and order anything today? About the only people who still go there are his fellow pew warmers. Have you heard he has had to fire a couple of employee's because of his reduction in business?

The gay couple got everything they wanted after a minor "slight" and the baker lost everything, not that I want you to feel sorry for him, I am glad he lost everything and I hope this sends a message to Christians everywhere that their religion is an abomination and a crime against humanity. I wish gays would not lower themselves to the level of Christians and behave like them, but as we know, I don't get everything I want.

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#17248 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
You aren't qualified to determine if something is unconstitutional; you have neither the authority or even the basic knowledge of the constitution. These rights you make up don't apply to the law or the courts.

<quoted text>
You are not qualified to determine what I know about the constitution. Your petty bickering is not convincing.

Do you think people are so stupid that they would believe what you say over the evidence in front of them?

You remind me of the parent who tells their child that something that tastes awful is delicious so they will eat it.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#17249 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
He's not incarcerated, buffoon.
His religious freedom has been superseded by forced celebration of a fundamentally religious ceremony, he's not free.

Free the baker!

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lides wrote:
He was never jailed. Nor was he fined, nor was he punished in any way. He did eventually decide to stop baking wedding cakes for anyone, which was on the table from the very first decision against him as an option. Brian, rather than free the baker (who was never jailed), why don't you grow a brain?
"DENVER (AP)— A suburban Denver baker has appealed an order from the Colorado Civil Rights Commission that requires him to prepare wedding cakes for gay couples.

Jack Phillips on Wednesday asked the Court of Appeals to reverse the May ruling by the commission.

Phillips was sued by a gay couple after he refused to make a cake to celebrate their marriage in 2012. Phillips has said he is deeply religious and that making the cake would violate the Christian principles by which he runs his Lakewood business, Masterpiece Cake Shop."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/denv...

Free the baker, support his religious freedom so your religious freedom will be respected too. Down with government regulation of business, up with freedom.

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#17250 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
For fu**'s sake, gays have dealt with people not approving of us for centuries, idiot. You think your disapproval means anything at all?
<quoted text>
You are twisted comrade. What is it I do not approve of? Do you think anyone in their right mind is going to fall for your underhanded ruse that I disapprove of gay people? That is what you are suggesting and probably hoping people will conclude and then treat me as an anti-gay homophobe when I have made it quite clear that it is bad behavior I do not approve of even when it is done by gay people.

You have the fixation of "gay good/not gay bad". For me, if a gay person does something bad or wrong I will say so just as much as when a bigot does something.

I am consistent and you are like how the wind blows. I wish you would grow up and act like a decent human being in stead of a petty bickering mean, filled with revenge, cretin.

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#17251 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
What hard-earned cash? Your PARENTS made the money; you just lay around drinking all day.
If you don't like the law, either you work to change them, or you find another country. Nobody cares what a whining little do-nothing brat like you wants or likes.
<quoted text>
Actually it is none of your business but when my grandparents died is when my parents used the inheritance to invest in rental property and double the size of our house. That is when I no longer had to share a bed with my cousin. We each got our own bedrooms. Not that I minded, I liked having him in bed with me. I loved him and I know you will claim I wanted to have sex with him because that is just how your mind works. Go ahead, I do not think men who like to have sex with other men is a bad thing or something is wrong with them. You think it is a tool to insult people with. How sick is that? Anyway, when my great aunt died we got
another chunk of money so my parents bought a place in Mexico and retired and I took over the family business. We also expanded the size of our house because both my cousin and I love to entertain. Many of his friends tell them that although I won't have sex with any of them there is some gay in me because of how I love good food and fine dining. They mean that as a complement. I do have a good sense for creating environments, decorating, lighting, color, fabric and landscaping. One guy last night at dinner told me that he thinks I got all the "gay" in the family, meaning my cousin was a bit lacking when it came to style and taste. It's true, things like putting the fork on the left side of the plate are important to me and he could care less. And when it comes to wine, he'll go down into the basement and grab just any old bottle and pour it into just any old wine glass with out any care about how it pairs with the food being eaten. But after a couple of hits of some good Sonoma Coma I can eat with my fingers.

So go ahead comrade, twist all that I said into something it isn't and try to find ways to use it against me. You want the petty bickering to continue so get to it.

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#17252 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
Wow...so much bigotry in one post.
I'm not juat a gay white man, I'm an American, and prefer to deal with other Americans. Not just the pale homosexual XY people. Socializing will always create some spaces for similar people, but the majority of businesses are run by Americans for Americans. Your plan calls for dividing up the people into similar groups, pretty much whether they wish to associate with their fellows or not.
<quoted text>
Do you have any brain cells that function correctly?

You are getting meaner and nastier by the day.

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#17253 Jul 27, 2014
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, the law trumped the illegal activity. It wouldn't matter if he refused to do the cake for an interracial marriage, an interfaith marriage, etc. It wouldn't matter if he was omnisexual; he was still legally obligated to do the job.
<quoted text>
Legally obligated to bake a cake? Is that the way we want our country ran? Where the government can force someone to bake a cake they do not want to bake?

Your God, the government, has nothing better to do that force people to bake cakes?

This is my country too comrade and you and your socialistic scumbag politicians have been taking it away from freedom loving American and we are fighting back.

More parents than ever before are refusing to deliver their children to the governments indoctrination centers each morning for 12 years. They are taught at home to be self-reliant and not look to the government for everything. Good because the government can only do a few things right.

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#17254 Jul 27, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>His religious freedom has been superseded by forced celebration of a fundamentally religious ceremony, he's not free.
Free the baker!
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Words do not mean the same thing to comrade peter as they do to normal people. I understand the baker is not free. Comrade peter uses freedom to mean free to comply with government laws and regulations or free not to comply and suffer the full punishment of the law.

That is not freedom of course, but that is how comrade peter sees it. Socialists love to use double speak. That way they never have to face their crimes against humanity.

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#17255 Jul 27, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>"DENVER (AP)— A suburban Denver baker has appealed an order from the Colorado Civil Rights Commission that requires him to prepare wedding cakes for gay couples.
Jack Phillips on Wednesday asked the Court of Appeals to reverse the May ruling by the commission.
Phillips was sued by a gay couple after he refused to make a cake to celebrate their marriage in 2012. Phillips has said he is deeply religious and that making the cake would violate the Christian principles by which he runs his Lakewood business, Masterpiece Cake Shop."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/denv...
Free the baker, support his religious freedom so your religious freedom will be respected too. Down with government regulation of business, up with freedom.
This is not over is it. Donations are pouring in from all over the world, not just America, to help fund his legal defense to fight these unjust, unfair and unconstitutional laws.

Let us not gloss over that all of this came about because a gay couple felt a "slight" at being told he would not make them a gay wedding cake. Nightmares like this happen for people because Government, no matter with good intentions or not, can not change people. Business owners need to be free to run their businesses the way they think is the best way to run them, and when they do stupid things like refuse to bake a cake, to suffer the backlash; no government interference is needed: it only makes things worse for everyone.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17256 Jul 27, 2014
I know what you're saying, and it's rubbish. Contracts are simple law; you willingly enter into an agreement that grants you certain gains, and in return you are given certain responsibilities. Nobody holds a gun to anyone's head to sign a business license. It's not micromanaging to tell someone up front that they have to serve people even if they don't like them or their god objects.
You remind me of the KKK members who always use "big black thugs" as villains, you racist bastard.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what I am saying; you just don't like it because it removes authority from your God to micromanage all our lives.
You remind me of the skinny sissymary who was approached by 3 huge black thugs who asked him to willingly agree to show them his wallet. We can all be sure he "willingly" agreed can't we Miss 1313.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17257 Jul 27, 2014
When you willingly decide to break the law, you don't get to whine about hiring a lawyer--which he wouldn't have had to do at all if he'd not challenged the law. Let him hit up all those christers for recompense.

You don't get to decide the level of harm done to another person.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Walking down the street to order a gay wedding cake from a gay owned bakery that specializes in making gay wedding cakes is suffering?
Or are you talking about being told, "I do not make wedding cakes for gay weddings"?
Now let us compare that to trained killers from the government entering your place of business and demanding you appear in court. You are worried sick about spending a year in prison and a $10,000.00 fine because you didn't want to bake a cake. Then you have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars on an attorney, you lose a whole day of work, to appear in court, over and over until the final ruling. The whole time you can't get it out of your head that you could go to prison for a year, have to pay a $10,000.00 fine and your attorney fees keep adding up, all because you didn't agree to bake a cake, although you offered brownies for the reception.
What the gay couple experienced is like a fire-cracker on the fourth of July and what the baker experienced was more like WW2.
Now, I do not like what the baker did, and I do not like the baker very much because it was bit silly in this day and age to refuse, but that does not mean he doesn't have the right to be a complete fucking idiot and refuse, he does. Business owners make all kinds of stupid mistakes all the time, just watch all the programs where professionals rescue failing bars and restaurants. The owners are stupid and Free Market Capitalism fixes them by putting them out of business. We do NOT need your Government God to solve our problems. We can and do solve them for ourselves.
Do you think gay people and people like me who support the gay community would go to Jack Phillips bakery and order anything today? About the only people who still go there are his fellow pew warmers. Have you heard he has had to fire a couple of employee's because of his reduction in business?
The gay couple got everything they wanted after a minor "slight" and the baker lost everything, not that I want you to feel sorry for him, I am glad he lost everything and I hope this sends a message to Christians everywhere that their religion is an abomination and a crime against humanity. I wish gays would not lower themselves to the level of Christians and behave like them, but as we know, I don't get everything I want.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17258 Jul 27, 2014
You've already demonstrated what you know about the constitution, which is nothing at all. You keep making up "rights" that aren't even tangentially related to it, and you even tend to confuse it with the DOI.

You don't give EVIDENCE; you bring out opinions from people who are even stupider than you are, like Rose, and those who are absolute quacks, like Mercola. You might as well quote zippy the Pinhead and the Wizard of Oz.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
You are not qualified to determine what I know about the constitution. Your petty bickering is not convincing.
Do you think people are so stupid that they would believe what you say over the evidence in front of them?
You remind me of the parent who tells their child that something that tastes awful is delicious so they will eat it.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17259 Jul 27, 2014
His religion has nothing to do with the anti-discrimination laws, as has been determined in numerous trials over the years.

He's a supplier; he's not celebrating, isn't invited as a guest, and a reception is not a religious ceremony. Your Jesus seemed fond of them, though, and even brought the wine.

He can appeal; he absolutely won't win. He probably thinks the Hobby Lobby decision will work in his favor, but it's a different set of circumstances. HL has to sell to gays, like it or not--even if they buy two male or two female wedding cake toppers.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>His religious freedom has been superseded by forced celebration of a fundamentally religious ceremony, he's not free.
Free the baker!
.
<quoted text>"DENVER (AP)— A suburban Denver baker has appealed an order from the Colorado Civil Rights Commission that requires him to prepare wedding cakes for gay couples.
Jack Phillips on Wednesday asked the Court of Appeals to reverse the May ruling by the commission.
Phillips was sued by a gay couple after he refused to make a cake to celebrate their marriage in 2012. Phillips has said he is deeply religious and that making the cake would violate the Christian principles by which he runs his Lakewood business, Masterpiece Cake Shop."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/denv...
Free the baker, support his religious freedom so your religious freedom will be respected too. Down with government regulation of business, up with freedom.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17260 Jul 27, 2014
None of which refutes what I wrote; you didn't create or build the business, and you have "the help" to do the work. Playing interior decorator is a hobby for you, schmuck.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually it is none of your business but when my grandparents died is when my parents used the inheritance to invest in rental property and double the size of our house. That is when I no longer had to share a bed with my cousin. We each got our own bedrooms. Not that I minded, I liked having him in bed with me. I loved him and I know you will claim I wanted to have sex with him because that is just how your mind works. Go ahead, I do not think men who like to have sex with other men is a bad thing or something is wrong with them. You think it is a tool to insult people with. How sick is that? Anyway, when my great aunt died we got
another chunk of money so my parents bought a place in Mexico and retired and I took over the family business. We also expanded the size of our house because both my cousin and I love to entertain. Many of his friends tell them that although I won't have sex with any of them there is some gay in me because of how I love good food and fine dining. They mean that as a complement. I do have a good sense for creating environments, decorating, lighting, color, fabric and landscaping. One guy last night at dinner told me that he thinks I got all the "gay" in the family, meaning my cousin was a bit lacking when it came to style and taste. It's true, things like putting the fork on the left side of the plate are important to me and he could care less. And when it comes to wine, he'll go down into the basement and grab just any old bottle and pour it into just any old wine glass with out any care about how it pairs with the food being eaten. But after a couple of hits of some good Sonoma Coma I can eat with my fingers.
So go ahead comrade, twist all that I said into something it isn't and try to find ways to use it against me. You want the petty bickering to continue so get to it.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17261 Jul 27, 2014
Legally obligated to do your job? Yes. Would you be fine with anti-gay medical workers who refuse to deal with gay patients? I've SEEN it happen, and yes, I want those a-holes to do their job. If they don't want to do so, they can go find another field of employment.

Fighting back? For what, the rights of the 1% and for corporate welfare? For bigotry?

Of course you want more kids to be homeschooled--you want to drag them down to your level.I'm far more self-reliant than you ever could be, because I learned to deal with the reality of the world, not hide from it like you.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Legally obligated to bake a cake? Is that the way we want our country ran? Where the government can force someone to bake a cake they do not want to bake?
Your God, the government, has nothing better to do that force people to bake cakes?
This is my country too comrade and you and your socialistic scumbag politicians have been taking it away from freedom loving American and we are fighting back.
More parents than ever before are refusing to deliver their children to the governments indoctrination centers each morning for 12 years. They are taught at home to be self-reliant and not look to the government for everything. Good because the government can only do a few things right.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#17262 Jul 27, 2014
Okay, we'll compromise. We'll ditch the anti-discrimination laws. When you deny us service, we deny you business by torching your fu**ing place to the ground. Then we're both out something.
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
This is not over is it. Donations are pouring in from all over the world, not just America, to help fund his legal defense to fight these unjust, unfair and unconstitutional laws.
Let us not gloss over that all of this came about because a gay couple felt a "slight" at being told he would not make them a gay wedding cake. Nightmares like this happen for people because Government, no matter with good intentions or not, can not change people. Business owners need to be free to run their businesses the way they think is the best way to run them, and when they do stupid things like refuse to bake a cake, to suffer the backlash; no government interference is needed: it only makes things worse for everyone.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#17264 Jul 27, 2014
Threat of arson reported. Try to relax fruit loops.

Violently burn his place down endangering lives and destroying property because he hurt your feelings eh?

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