(Canada) 'Pray away the gay': Conversion therapy groups facing heat over charity status

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Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#1 Oct 7, 2012
I don't think there will be any restrictions on them with the asshole Harperite Tories in power. Hopefully in 2015 the Tories will be defeated.

Side comment, not related to gays: Why is it that Topix does a better job of noting Canadian GLBT news than the American press and internet feeds do of noting Canadian GENERAL news?

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#2 Oct 7, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
I don't think there will be any restrictions on them with the asshole Harperite Tories in power. Hopefully in 2015 the Tories will be defeated.
Side comment, not related to gays: Why is it that Topix does a better job of noting Canadian GLBT news than the American press and internet feeds do of noting Canadian GENERAL news?
Why? Just look at the American psyche. The most uptight people on earth, but somehow the biggest users of porn and the most sex crimes and childhood pregnancies of any civilized society. Americans are so tight ass, and a bunch of Miss Grundys who are so interested to see if anyone is having any fun out there, while huffing and chuffing over it, dying of rancid curiosity, and sticking their noses into everything.

The USA was founded by puritans who left England because it was too much fun and began a country as stick up the ass as possible. We are still emerging from their influence. Recall the old story "The Scarlett Letter" about hypocrisy and sexual longing and lies. A perfect tale of the Puritans and their hypocrisy.

“Child of the Universe”

Since: Aug 09

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

#3 Oct 7, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
I don't think there will be any restrictions on them with the asshole Harperite Tories in power. Hopefully in 2015 the Tories will be defeated.
Side comment, not related to gays: Why is it that Topix does a better job of noting Canadian GLBT news than the American press and internet feeds do of noting Canadian GENERAL news?
Try Xtra! for Canadian news. Since we now have marriage and civil liberty, the struggle north of the 49th has abated somewhat...
david traversa

Buenos Aires, Argentina

#4 Oct 8, 2012
Governments used to periodically burn what they termed "dangerous books".. Pity they didn't include the most pernicious of all: The Old Testament.. Pity that Jesus Christ (such a sensible man) has had to take the blame for the crude barbarities of his ancestors..

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#5 Oct 8, 2012
Leftatalbuquerque wrote:
<quoted text>
Try Xtra! for Canadian news. Since we now have marriage and civil liberty, the struggle north of the 49th has abated somewhat...
No, I think you misunderstood. I was complaining that the US news does a lousy job of covering Canada on general topics.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#6 Oct 8, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I think you misunderstood. I was complaining that the US news does a lousy job of covering Canada on general topics.
Canadian news is not sexy nor lurid enough for most American news outlets. They like juicy stories of murder and decapitations and strap on bombs. Last I heard, there are no maniacs strapping bombs to themselves in a mall in Saskatoon.
Cletus

Forney, TX

#7 Oct 8, 2012
I wish the homosexuals would stop having sex with children.
native Californian

Hillsboro, OH

#9 Oct 8, 2012
Cletus wrote:
I wish the homosexuals would stop having sex with children.
The vast majority of people who have sex with children are straight men who have sex with their daughters, granddaughters, sisters, or nieces. This accounts for at least 75% of child molestations of prepubescent children. Then there is another group of pedophiles who do not care the sex of the child. Child molestation by openly gay men is statistically small, as is molestation of prepubescent children by women. Molestations by lesbians is a SMALL fraction of 1%.
Consider that about 1/4 of women were molested as a child. This was NOT done by "gays". Most often it was done by a male relative or "friend of the family".
My statistics come from the research I did when I was the chair of a state-wide task force on rape.
NoQ

New York, NY

#10 Oct 8, 2012
native Californian wrote:
<quoted text>The vast majority of people who have sex with children are straight men who have sex with their daughters, granddaughters, sisters, or nieces. This accounts for at least 75% of child molestations of prepubescent children. Then there is another group of pedophiles who do not care the sex of the child. Child molestation by openly gay men is statistically small, as is molestation of prepubescent children by women. Molestations by lesbians is a SMALL fraction of 1%.
Consider that about 1/4 of women were molested as a child. This was NOT done by "gays". Most often it was done by a male relative or "friend of the family".
My statistics come from the research I did when I was the chair of a state-wide task force on rape.
Of all male children that is molested by another male. They are molested by a fking Queer. A straight man does not molest little boys. Only Fa$$ots are turned on by male parts. Smoke that in your gay pipe Fa$$ot.
Allen

Louisville, KY

#11 Oct 8, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Of all male children that is molested by another male. They are molested by a fking Queer. A straight man does not molest little boys. Only Fa$$ots are turned on by male parts. Smoke that in your gay pipe Fa$$ot.
Gay sex or straight sex is sex between two consenting adults. Only a child molestor molests kids. Think of how many married straight men have been convicted of molesting little girls. Smoke THAT in your straight pipe, a**hole.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#12 Oct 8, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Canadian news is not sexy nor lurid enough for most American news outlets. They like juicy stories of murder and decapitations and strap on bombs. Last I heard, there are no maniacs strapping bombs to themselves in a mall in Saskatoon.
No but a couple of years ago, a crazy Chinese immigrant traveling through the prairie provinces on a bus decapitated a fellow passenger and then started to eat the head. We also had Mr. Magnotta more recently.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#13 Oct 8, 2012
NoQ wrote:
All you fking Queers need to go to Canada to stay. Get your nasty A$$es out of the US.
Hopefully the cute ones.

“Luke laughs at hypocrites!”

Since: Sep 10

Palm Springs, California

#15 Oct 8, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
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No but a couple of years ago, a crazy Chinese immigrant traveling through the prairie provinces on a bus decapitated a fellow passenger and then started to eat the head. We also had Mr. Magnotta more recently.
Yeah, well, believe me, THAT story was WELL documented in USA press! It's all we heard of for a week.

However, how many horrible tales of murder and sometimes worse, do you hear about in the USA? Constant. I don't think Canada is so hell bent on destroying each other as here. The whole place is a like a nitro glycerine milk shake with gun powder sprinkles on top.

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#16 Oct 9, 2012
Curteese wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, well, believe me, THAT story was WELL documented in USA press! It's all we heard of for a week.
However, how many horrible tales of murder and sometimes worse, do you hear about in the USA? Constant. I don't think Canada is so hell bent on destroying each other as here. The whole place is a like a nitro glycerine milk shake with gun powder sprinkles on top.
Mostly we hear about mass shootings. It seems like there is an average of about one in the US per week. Of course, they are more sensationalized than gang violence because they usually involve white people as either perps or victims.

“goodbye topix”

Since: Jun 12

Im not here

#17 Oct 9, 2012
I know I'm going off topic with my own personal agenda but heres it anyhow. There is no "charity" status in this sorta "prayer". Charity is love, it's not love it's judgement, condemnation and claiming to know the mind & reasoning of God. Oh yeh, and it doesent work! just because people want it to. It only works if God wants it to. About 2 year ago I had a church group do prayer sessions with me to "pray the gay away", 24/7, they took it in shifts I didn't. I was strapped in a chair a few times for "exorcism prayer",+ "baptisms", it's "intense" and I now think it's not "help" but "punishment". When ur younger (I was 16) u go along with it, now I think I'd say "no way" to such "treatment". If ur not cured then u've not enough faith, if u get enough of all that religious zeal, u claim a cure even if it's a lie, which is a sin for sure, just to make it stop. God has His reasons, and if He wants u gay ur gay. This "cure" isn't proper religion outta love for God it's a cult thing tryin to brainwash people into thinking they've "turned" straight.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#18 Oct 9, 2012
_Chartreuse_ wrote:
I know I'm going off topic with my own personal agenda but heres it anyhow. There is no "charity" status in this sorta "prayer". Charity is love, it's not love it's judgement, condemnation and claiming to know the mind & reasoning of God. Oh yeh, and it doesent work! just because people want it to. It only works if God wants it to. About 2 year ago I had a church group do prayer sessions with me to "pray the gay away", 24/7, they took it in shifts I didn't. I was strapped in a chair a few times for "exorcism prayer",+ "baptisms", it's "intense" and I now think it's not "help" but "punishment". When ur younger (I was 16) u go along with it, now I think I'd say "no way" to such "treatment". If ur not cured then u've not enough faith, if u get enough of all that religious zeal, u claim a cure even if it's a lie, which is a sin for sure, just to make it stop. God has His reasons, and if He wants u gay ur gay. This "cure" isn't proper religion outta love for God it's a cult thing tryin to brainwash people into thinking they've "turned" straight.
Stories like yours are important, people really need to hear what is being done to their fellow man in the name of the "Love" of "God". These people have sold the public a bill of goods, that they buy with no real question, because the Bible tells them so, or so they're told. They need to be told first hand the damage they are doing.
NoQ

Bronx, NY

#19 Oct 9, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Stories like yours are important, people really need to hear what is being done to their fellow man in the name of the "Love" of "God". These people have sold the public a bill of goods, that they buy with no real question, because the Bible tells them so, or so they're told. They need to be told first hand the damage they are doing.
STFU Fa$$ot
Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#20 Oct 9, 2012
NoQ wrote:
<quoted text>
STFU Fa$$ot
Gee.... all your analogies are gay. I guess that's just how your mind works, eh? Thinking about gay sex night and day means you are gay.

This is where you try to use the ruse of "I'm not gay because I write about it night and day." Yeah, right.... we believe you...

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#21 Oct 9, 2012
NoQ wrote:
STFU Fa$$ot
No, cupcake. Other than whine like my b*tch, what are you going yo do about it?

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#24 Oct 9, 2012
NoQ wrote:
STFU cupcake, ya little whiney A$$ bitc:h. Go molest your little pooch you have Fa$$ot, better than molesting little boys.
I said OTHER than whine like my b*tch, sweetie. I guess you got no other, color me shocked. You can ejaculate at me again if you want, but I'm done watching you furiously beat off some of the least impressive junk I've ever run into. Your routine bores me, you're a flasher with a micro-penis and impotency. Everyone move along, other than pointing and laughing, nothing to see here. Buh-bye boychick.

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