Gay dads dispel same-sex adoption myths - and are looking to adopt for a second time

Aug 9, 2014 Full story: Chronicle Live 108

Mark Haillay and Owen Joiner, of Washington, have urged others to consider adopting, after figures showed same sex adoptions have doubled Mark Haillay and Owen Joiner, who live in Washington , adopted Anthony when he was 14 months old in 2011 after lengthy discussions about starting a family.

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lgbt is silly

Knoxville, TN

#1 Aug 10, 2014
Child molestation is certain to follow.

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#2 Aug 10, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
Child molestation is certain to follow.
Only if they allow you near their child. Which they won't.

Since: Mar 07

Louisa, VA

#13 Aug 10, 2014
Good Reverend wrote:
Another approach ..........
Hmmmm, here we have plagiarism - cut and paste - direct from the FRC Website. Some "reverend" you are. A thief and plagiarist.

Lets see a bit more about the FRC and their goals.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelli...

Since: Mar 07

Louisa, VA

#14 Aug 10, 2014
Good Reverend wrote:
The Connection between ..
Reported

Since: Mar 07

Louisa, VA

#15 Aug 10, 2014
And in the real world, outside of the halls of the Family Research Council, adopted parents - both gay and straight - are raising wonderful kids.

http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parentin...

“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#17 Aug 10, 2014
HOMOPHOBIA ASSOCIATED WITH HOMOSEXUAL AROUSAL (part II)

Why men who oppose homosexuality could just be in the closet

Published on June 6, 2012 by Nathan A. Heflick, Ph.D. in Psychology Today

A while back I wrote about a study in which self-reported heterosexual men gave their attitudes toward homosexuals prior to being exposed to gay male porn. The study found that the men who were the most anti-gay prior to the study were the most aroused by the gay male porn. How did they know this? Well, the researchers measured the blood flow to each man's penis while watching the porn. The more anti-gay a man was, to put it bluntly, the larger his penis got relative to its original size.

A recent series of studies followed up on this research. These studies found that at an implicit, preconscious, level men who reported being the most anti-gay were the quickest to identify as homosexual.(i.e., they were quickest to respond to the word "me" after "homosexual" was subliminally primed). Further, the men that had the largest gap between their explicit, reported sexual preference and their implicit sexual preference had the most anger and hostility towards gays. And lastly, these effects were especially strong for people who reported having parents who were controlling. In other words, they men who were the most anti-gay explicitly showed an implicit preference for identifying as gay themselves, and that these people also were the most hostile towards gay people.

Though not part of these studies, frustration is typically associated with an increased chance of aggression. Perhaps then, anti-gay prejudice from many men is just a retaliatory thing stemming from their frustration over being sexually aroused by men, but society, and their families, not approving of it, and in turn, them being frustrated over not being able to express it.

That would be a super cool extension of this research to be tested, if I do say so myself (and I do!)

When it comes to men hating gay men, it is in part just a cover up for their gay male attraction. This isn't saying that these men are gay (arousal towards women was not measured in these studies), however, it could mean, at the least, that they are bi-sexual.

“in eastern nc”

Since: Apr 07

Jacksonville /CampLejeune

#18 Aug 10, 2014
Good Reverend wrote:
The Connection between Homosexuality & Child Sexual Abuse
"You shouldn't have done it. It ruined our lives!" cried a boy from the back of an Ohio courtroom as he confronted the man who sexually molested him. The perpetrator, a former Boy Scout leader, had just pleaded guilty to rape and sexual battery. As yet another example of the cycle of sexual abuse, the pedophile claimed that he too had been sexually molested as a child.[1]
Dave, another victim of sexual molestation by a Boy Scout leader, was reduced to living on the streets when his sexual tormenter was finally arrested. Dave had been eating out of garbage cans, running afoul of the law, and trying to numb the terrible memories with alcohol and drugs. His life fell apart one day as a seven-year-old boy dressed in a Cub Scout uniform, when the Scout leader began the sexual molestation. Now sixteen, Dave is still on a path of self-destruction, and there is seemingly little his heartbroken mother can do.[2]
Horrific stories about the victims of child sexual abuse serve as a lucid reminder that pedophilia is not merely an academic issue to be debated by scholars, but a crime that destroys young lives. In the paper, "Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse," we demonstrated how the allies of the pedophile movement within the scholarly community were attempting to justify men using boys to fulfill their unnatural sexual compulsions.
Despite efforts by homosexual activists to distance the gay lifestyle from pedophilia, there remains a disturbing connection between the two. While many homosexuals may not seek young sexual partners, the evidence indicates that disproportionate numbers of gay men seek adolescent males or boys as sexual partners. The linkage of homosexuality and pedophilia is explained in the following.
An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported: "It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!"[3] This finding was echoed in a report by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children, which stated: "In both clinical and non-clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male."[4]
According to the Journal of Child Psychiatry, "contemporary studies now indicate that the ratio of girls to boys abused has narrowed remarkably.... The majority of community studies suggest a ... ratio ... in the order of 2 to 4 girls to 1 boy."[5] Indeed, the same study reports that there is likely "under-reporting of the incidence and prevalence of sexual abuse in boys."[6]
Relying upon three large data sets--the General Social Survey, the National Health and Social Life Survey, and the U.S. Census--a recent study in Demography reported that only 4.7 percent of men and 3.6 percent of women in the United States had had even one same-sex sexual experience since age eighteen, and only 3.1 percent of men and 1.8 percent of women had had more same-sex than opposite-sex partners.[7] Even lower figures were reported in a study of the sexual behavior of men in the United States based on the National Survey of Men (a nationally representative sample comprised of 3,321 men aged twenty to thirty-nine, published in Family Planning Perspectives). The study found that "2 percent of sexually active men aged twenty to thirty-nine ... had had any same-gender sexual activity during the last ten years."[8]
i am sorry but a little boy having sex is no big trauma , this is a unusual case probably started by greedy mother or a rightest minster to get money or press time.
Augustus

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#19 Aug 10, 2014
RICK OCONNOR wrote:
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i am sorry but a little boy having sex is no big trauma
Of course a homosexual male would feel that way.
Augustus

Anonymous Proxy

#20 Aug 10, 2014
Quest wrote:
And in the real world, outside of the halls of the Family Research Council, adopted parents - both gay and straight - are raising wonderful kids.
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parentin...
I don't believe anything the APA says. They're on the gay payroll.
Augustus

Anonymous Proxy

#21 Aug 10, 2014
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Reported
The truth makes you mad huh?

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#22 Aug 10, 2014
"However, singling out "sexual orientation" for special protection (along with the usual categories of "race, color, national origin, sex, and disability") is illogical. The latter qualities are usually inborn, involuntary, immutable, and innocuous--none of which is true of homosexuality, despite the claims of its advocates."

I noticed they left religion out. lol I called them out on that before and after much back and forth they couldn't answer my question of why they felt religion deserved protections when it is blatantly behaviour. I also cited rulings where both religion and sexual orientation is considered an immutable characteristic for legal purposes.

Are they now open to giving up religious protections?
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Aug 10, 2014
lgbt is silly wrote:
Child molestation is certain to follow.
Well, most of it in the West has always taken place right in the (extended) nuclear family...so I guess there was bound to be some in families headed by heterosexual parents as well as same sex parents.

Although markedly less in families with lesbian parents, of course. Because on average females of any sort are not quite as sexually perpetrating as men are.
Ted Haggard s Gospel Rub

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Aug 10, 2014
Good Reverend wrote:
Does the growing acceptance of homosexuality in American society have an impact on children? If so, what sort of impact does it have? And is that impact something positive or negative for the future of America's children, and for the future of our culture?...Casual observers may not think that children are directly affected....real or perceived "sexual orientation" should be singled out for specific protection under school disciplinary codes.
I don't want to be critical, but I honestly think that is a bit text heavy for your manhunt profile.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#25 Aug 11, 2014
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
When it comes to men hating gay men, it is in part just a cover up for their gay male attraction. This isn't saying that these men are gay (arousal towards women was not measured in these studies), however, it could mean, at the least, that they are bi-sexual.
What a pile of horseshit that is.
All this ridiculous test means is that the test subject was young and horny, nothing more.
Some guys are turned on by lesbian porn, they don't want to be lesbians.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#26 Aug 11, 2014
Wondering wrote:
What a pile of horseshit that is.
You could simply stop posting.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#27 Aug 11, 2014
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
You could simply stop posting.
Troll much? Actually, you do little else.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#28 Aug 11, 2014
Wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
What a pile of horseshit that is.
All this ridiculous test means is that the test subject was young and horny, nothing more.
Some guys are turned on by lesbian porn, they don't want to be lesbians.
It's not about being young and horny, Poodle. And it's not about the absurd notion that someone wants to BE what turns them on sexually. Using your 'logic", all straight men secretly want to be women and all straight women secretly want to be men. Really????

The study was about the fact that the causes of anti-gay animus are firmly rooted the fact that most of the anti-gays ARE, in fact, at least a little bit bisexual. Because society has told them to hate gay people, and they recognize that there's a wee bit o' the gay inside themselves, their reaction is to be super, extremely, mega anti-gay, in the hopes that no one will ever realize that THEY are, in fact, a wee little bit gay themselves.

Or, they're not even bisexual, but just your basic self-hating closet case that hopes if they're anti-gay enough, no one will ever know.

And every day we find out about more and more anti-gay bigots that get caught sucking dick in a darkened hotel room or hooking up on a gay hook-up site. So it would appear that the results of this study are pretty conclusive--the more you hate the gays, the more likely it is that you ARE one.

You DO realize, I'm sure, that normal straight people don't obsess over gay sex. Most gay people don't obsess over gay sex. Only closet cases obsess over gay sex. But you knew that already, didn't you?

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#29 Aug 11, 2014
Wondering wrote:
Troll much? Actually, you do little else.
Wondering, I am not the one advocating for fellow Americans to be treated as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the law absent a compelling governmental interest in doing so. That is your position.

Feel free to offer up that elusive interest that would both render your argument valid, and prove that you aren't an idiot.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#30 Aug 11, 2014
eJohn wrote:
The study was about the fact that the causes of anti-gay animus are firmly rooted the fact that most of the anti-gays ARE, in fact, at least a little bit bisexual.
Total horseshit. Only a person with the gay disorder would hope that were true.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#31 Aug 11, 2014
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Wondering, I am not the one advocating for fellow Americans to be treated as second class citizens with less than equal protection of the law absent a compelling governmental interest in doing so. That is your position.
Since I've told you many times that I don't care if gays marry each other why do you still think my 'position' is anything to the contrary? You must be illiterate.

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