PA Court To Hear Same-Sex Marriage Ar...

PA Court To Hear Same-Sex Marriage Arguments On Sept. 4

There are 13 comments on the CBS Local story from Aug 20, 2013, titled PA Court To Hear Same-Sex Marriage Arguments On Sept. 4. In it, CBS Local reports that:

A Pennsylvania court will hear arguments next month on the governor's attempt to stop a county outside Philadelphia from issuing same-sex marriage licenses.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#1 Aug 20, 2013
I had reservations when they started this, because when officials have gone rogue like this in the past, the marriages have always been nullified in the end. The fact that there still has been no injunction stopping them from continuing to issue the licenses makes me wonder if this end run might be the first to prove effective.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 Aug 20, 2013
Marriage laws have to be state by state, not county by county.

And I don't care if not another state grants marriage equality to use, so long as....... ALL states legally recognize ALL the marriage of ALL other states as they are LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DO under the the U.S. Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit" clause.
Windbound

Greenwood, MS

#3 Aug 20, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Marriage laws have to be state by state, not county by county.
And I don't care if not another state grants marriage equality to use, so long as....... ALL states legally recognize ALL the marriage of ALL other states as they are LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DO under the the U.S. Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit" clause.
Yes, too bad the Obama administration is forcing the courts to make this right. Chickens.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#4 Aug 20, 2013
Windbound wrote:
Yes, too bad the Obama administration is forcing the courts to make this right. Chickens.
Do you have any idea what you are babbling about? This is a state court case, the administration has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Since: Mar 09

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#5 Aug 20, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
Marriage laws have to be state by state, not county by county.
And I don't care if not another state grants marriage equality to use, so long as....... ALL states legally recognize ALL the marriage of ALL other states as they are LEGALLY REQUIRED TO DO under the the U.S. Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit" clause.
State-by-State is as legally irrational as County-by-County.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#6 Aug 20, 2013
snyper wrote:
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State-by-State is as legally irrational as County-by-County.
No. Marriage is a state issue as per the the 9th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. So of course it should be state by state. The closest analogy is first-cousin marriage which about half the states allow, and about half the states do not, but ALL the states legally recognize first-cousin marriages performed in other states, notwithstanding their own laws prohibiting it, BECAUSE OF the U.S. Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit" clause.

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#7 Aug 20, 2013
Braddock's Mayor Fetterman is fascinating. He's much more interesting than just being the mayor who performs same-sex marriages:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magazine/13...

Since: Mar 09

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#8 Aug 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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No. Marriage is a state issue as per the the 9th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. So of course it should be state by state. The closest analogy is first-cousin marriage which about half the states allow, and about half the states do not, but ALL the states legally recognize first-cousin marriages performed in other states, notwithstanding their own laws prohibiting it, BECAUSE OF the U.S. Constitution's "Full Faith and Credit" clause.
That it is a State issue at all is irrational.

By the way, that wasn't an "analogy", but an example.

Since: Mar 09

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#9 Aug 21, 2013
nhjeff wrote:
Braddock's Mayor Fetterman is fascinating. He's much more interesting than just being the mayor who performs same-sex marriages:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/magazine/13...
Thanks for that link! You're right. The man IS fascinating. Not a book to judge by it's cover, that's for sure.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#10 Aug 21, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
I had reservations when they started this, because when officials have gone rogue like this in the past, the marriages have always been nullified in the end. The fact that there still has been no injunction stopping them from continuing to issue the licenses makes me wonder if this end run might be the first to prove effective.
I've been curious about that, too. It would seem that, given the recent SCOTUS decisions, this case might take more than just the old "The law is the law is the law is the law" argument that has always stopped people from doing the right thing in the past. This time might be different....

It'll be interesting to see, won't it?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Aug 21, 2013
snyper wrote:
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That it is a State issue at all is irrational.
By the way, that wasn't an "analogy", but an example.
Irrational ?! Try reading The Bill Of Rights. Specifically the 9th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. Oh wait. I'm sorry. Dems & Libs don't support The Bill Of Rights.

Since: Mar 09

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#12 Aug 21, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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Irrational ?! Try reading The Bill Of Rights. Specifically the 9th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. Oh wait. I'm sorry. Dems & Libs don't support The Bill Of Rights.
You aren't listening.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#13 Aug 21, 2013
eJohn wrote:
I've been curious about that, too. It would seem that, given the recent SCOTUS decisions, this case might take more than just the old "The law is the law is the law is the law" argument that has always stopped people from doing the right thing in the past. This time might be different....
It'll be interesting to see, won't it?
Unless the law in Pennsylvania is somehow different, in every other case it has been that the duty of clerks is to only issue licenses to those the state says can have them, regardless if they believe the state is right or wrong. When these cases make it to the Courts, the fight is usually over a lot quicker than this.

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