God and Gays: The Rite to Bless Same-sex Unions

Jul 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Time

There is something by now familiar, even reassuring, about what happens in my church every third summer.

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Do you mean the whole Love God and Love your neighbor?...
Not what I mean, but what YOU meant by:
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Traitors...and they can leave the keys on the table when they walk out the door.
Yes, or No: Are Episcopalians who stand for biblical principles and values traitors?

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Not what I mean, but what YOU meant by:
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Yes, or No: Are Episcopalians who stand for biblical principles and values traitors?
We need people who stand with us...and if you don't, don't let the door hit you in the arse. ADIOS! TRAITOR!

I can't imagine ever being in the military with you...how many people did you shoot in the back with your words?

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In Acts 20:35, Paul recalls the words of the Lord Jesus, "It is more blessed to give than to receive ..."
First, that's Luke writing there, not Saul.

Please cite the gospel coords where Yeshua says this.
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012/11/19/are-liberals-smarter -study-indicates-the-answer-is -yes/
Being smarter doesn't prove one is wiser then the rest. Obama is a far left democratic liberal with socialistic leaning.
His liberal smarts endorsed a literal free cell phone for those that couldn't afford one. His liberal smarts advertised to the illegal aliens that coming here would get them free health care, free food stamps, and a cash stipend each month. His liberal smarts endorsed free contraceptives for the sexually active so they didn't have to pay anything in some cases, very little in other cases. When Obama was putting his Obama health care plan to the people, a segment of the society that absolutely love his freebies, they interpreted what he said that they were getting free health care for a long while.
Liberal smarts says shut down the oil companies that want to keep drilling for more oil. But they don't have a clue what we'll do for energy or petroleum made replacements as oil isn't produced any more. The liberal mind set grabbed the ethanol from corn idea. Unfortunately for a smart idea, it drove up corn prices and grocery products using corn syrup because there is now less corn for corn syrup products.
Care to go over some other "smart" liberal idealisms that are causing California's massive debt and this nations financial crisis? How about the Obama liberal idea to down size the military? Or how about the democratic liberal super smart Obama administration that claims it doesn't know what's happening within itself? Yeah, smart is smart but it sure does't mean wisdom is attached to those smarts :)P
Stop watching FUX NEWS. It has rotted your brain.

Free cell phones happened under George Bush.
Illegal aliens do NOT qualify for food stamps or welfare.
The ethanol mandate came from George Bush.

These FACTS are indisputable, so go spread your manure somewhere else.

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We need people who stand with us ...
... even as you betray the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6)?

How could any Christian support you in that?

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First, that's Luke writing there, not Saul ...
No, that's Luke recording what Saul said about what Jesus taught about giving.
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No, that's Luke recording what Saul said about what Jesus taught about giving.
No, it was Shlomo the deli owner, giving his opinion on the mental state of literalists.

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... even as you betray the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6)?
How could any Christian support you in that?
You still don't get the Romans 2:1 thing do you?

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"Gnothi Seuton"
Amen!

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1900 years later we have people claiming to know what Jesus said and meant and what God wants from us and, they expect us to trust that what they say is good as gold cause the spirit of God told them what to tell us.
So personally, I'll rely on the guys that supposedly lived during Jesus's time and shortly after his death, that includes Paul concerning what they say Jesus said and meant and what God wants from us.
You do that. I'll rely on Jesus who is alive and well today!

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No, that's Luke recording what Saul said about what Jesus taught about giving.
LMAO!

So Luke (who isn't an apostle) is telling us what Sh'aul the fool (who isn't an apostle) says about what Yeshua said.
The first game of 'telephone'.....

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No, that's Luke recording what Saul said about what Jesus taught about giving.
The gospel coordinates where Yeshua said that?

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Stop watching FUX NEWS. It has rotted your brain.
Free cell phones happened under George Bush.
Illegal aliens do NOT qualify for food stamps or welfare.
The ethanol mandate came from George Bush.
These FACTS are indisputable, so go spread your manure somewhere else.
Additionally, no one is proposing shutting down the oil industry. We just don't support expanding it, and subsidizing it while they continue to rake in record profits and polluting the air and water we depend on for life. We want to include and move toward more cleaner, renewable energy sources such as solar and wind.

And while fuel from corn may have been a bad choice, the corn farmers loved Bush for pushing up the price of corn. Yet other crops, including non food crops can also be used. Bio fuels probably will have a place in the future if we use the right plants.

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Umm yes they are Christian values. Christ himself said...
27"You have heard that it was said,'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.
Divorce
31"It has been said,'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[f] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.
Do note in the above concerning marriage, Jesus reaffirms what modern homosexuals have judged people now as being, that he also was a homophobic prejudicial bigot as he doesn't include same sex couples in verse 31.
Your modern rendition of Jesus in no way or manner matches the Jesus that is recorded in the NT. Do you know he said if you hurt a person of innocence (as like a child), without stating what kind of hurt, that you should drown yourself in some deep water?
The Jesus of the NT taught love and forgiveness but he was for capitol punishment it could well be said.
And yet none of those verses support harming others needlessly, yet you want to interpret them as justification for doing so. He also tried to make it easy for us:

Matthew 7:12,: So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

Galatians 5:14: The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

James 2-8 But if you keep the greatest law of all, as it is given in the holy Writings, Have love for your neighbour as for yourself, you do well:

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said to him, You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it:'Love your neighbor as yourself. The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments."

Mark 12:30-31: And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Luke 10:27: He answered:‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and,‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'

John 13:34: A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another.

John 15:12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.

John 15:17: This is my command: Love each other.

Matthew 7:1: "Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

Luke 6:37: "Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

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If the common type individual with citizenship status were used for prostitutes in the temples, your point would be quite valid as you write your position.
Common people/people with citizenship status usually weren't used for prostitution in or out of temple rituals. slaves were usually used. Pompeii is an example where slaves were mostly used for sexual acts in or out of temples. People with citizenship usually didn't become a prostitute though I am sure there are examples of it happening.
That's why I say those in the temples were usually forced into those sexual acts because of their slave status. They had no choice. Obey they lived, disobey and they could die or be sold to a worst task master. cultured citizens with citizenship status from birth or who earned it, usually didn't have to be a prostitute as a form of work. See the difference?
I'm not talking about the prostitutes, but the people who used the prostitutes. They believed they were doing what was expected of them by the pagan gods and by the society in which they lived. That was the context of the time and society to which they were enculturated. They were just being good pagans.

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The gospel coordinates where Yeshua said that?
John 21:25.

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No one attempts to follow all of Leviticus, which was about cleanliness codes and pagan fertility orgies, not same sex relationships based on mutual love and respect.

I Cor 6:9, no way refers to homosexuality. The original Greek word often quoted as sexual immorality, Paul used was "porneia" which means "a harlot for hire". In Corinth in the temples of Venus, the principal deity of Corinth, where Christians went to worship, a thousand public prostitutes were kept at public expense to glorify and act as surrogates for the fertility Gods. This sex with the pagan Gods is what Paul was talking about - fornication is an admitted mistranslation and has nothing to do with gays or singles sex. This rendering reflected the bias of the translators rather than an accurate translation of Paul's words to a culture of 2000 years ago worshipping pagan sex gods.

Romans 1:26-27 mentions homosexual acts performed by people who are clearly described as heterosexual. The men in the NT patriarchal culture exerted dominance not only over women, but over younger males as well. The nature of homosexual acts in the Bible are so very different from what we know as homosexuality today that the passages have no application to today's homosexuality. Such practices as in NT times simply no longer exist.

Alleged references to homosexuality in I Corinthians and I Timothy are the inventions of anti-gay translators. They are not in the original Greek texts.

The word "homosexual" wasn't even invented till 1869, so whenever you see it in a bible, you should immediately realize it is a mistranslation and misinterpretation of the original text.

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Romans 1:26-27 mentions homosexual acts performed by people who are clearly described as heterosexual ...
By their fruit you will know them (Matt. 7:16).

Homosexual acts are performed by homosexuals and "straight" trees don't produce "gay" fruit.

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By their fruit you will know them (Matt. 7:16).
Homosexual acts are performed by homosexuals and "straight" trees don't produce "gay" fruit.
Homosexual acts are also preformed by some straight men, especially in prison settings, but also in other anonymous quickie sex situations. Pagan ritual orgies are no longer the main societal expression of religious belief today, but they were in the past.

Most gay people had straight parents.

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Homosexual acts are also preformed by some straight men ...
... who are not straight, but actually bisexual.

Further, Paul's letters were not about "prison sex".

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