God and Gays: The Rite to Bless Same-sex Unions

Jul 16, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Time

There is something by now familiar, even reassuring, about what happens in my church every third summer.

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#29 Jul 18, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
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If I wanted to see a movie and it was only showing at a theater I did not care for, I would go to see it. I am not a Jew and an atheist simultaneously, please learn to read. I was raised Jewish and am a Jew as an ethnic identity. I do not observe religious rituals, pray or believe in a deity.
And by the way, in cases where religions do not conflict, it is very possible to belong to more than one. The Japanese have done this for over a thousand years (Buddhism and Shintoism).
I along with most civilized humans gave up on thinking of people as members of 'races'. There is only one 'race' and it is HUMAN. Please read any modern book on genetic for details.

Your religious beliefs are yours and yours alone. I could care less what tradition you were raised in. For all I care you could have been raised as a Holiness Snake Handler on Sand Mountain AL. If you have no religious beliefs then great for you, enjoy your freedom.

Don't expect the rest of us to care too much in any case. Civilized people in the United States passionately love our 'freedom of conscience' as I have pointed out to you earlier.

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#30 Jul 19, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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I along with most civilized humans gave up on thinking of people as members of 'races'. There is only one 'race' and it is HUMAN. Please read any modern book on genetic for details.
Your religious beliefs are yours and yours alone. I could care less what tradition you were raised in. For all I care you could have been raised as a Holiness Snake Handler on Sand Mountain AL. If you have no religious beliefs then great for you, enjoy your freedom.
Don't expect the rest of us to care too much in any case. Civilized people in the United States passionately love our 'freedom of conscience' as I have pointed out to you earlier.
AMEN!

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Toronto, ON, Canada

#31 Jul 19, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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I along with most civilized humans gave up on thinking of people as members of 'races'. There is only one 'race' and it is HUMAN. Please read any modern book on genetic for details.
Your religious beliefs are yours and yours alone. I could care less what tradition you were raised in. For all I care you could have been raised as a Holiness Snake Handler on Sand Mountain AL. If you have no religious beliefs then great for you, enjoy your freedom.
Don't expect the rest of us to care too much in any case. Civilized people in the United States passionately love our 'freedom of conscience' as I have pointed out to you earlier.
I did not mention race. I mentioned ethnicity. Those are distinct terms - and I actually agree with you that race is a meaningless and artificial concept based solely on skin and eye colour, eye shape and hair type. Ethnicity means the cultural and to some very limited extent the genetic heritage that is passed down by ones ancestors. The genetic part is really just limited to diseases caused by isolation or endogamy - the rest of the genome varies too much by individual to draw any conclusions.

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#32 Jul 19, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
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I did not mention race. I mentioned ethnicity. Those are distinct terms - and I actually agree with you that race is a meaningless and artificial concept based solely on skin and eye colour, eye shape and hair type. Ethnicity means the cultural and to some very limited extent the genetic heritage that is passed down by ones ancestors. The genetic part is really just limited to diseases caused by isolation or endogamy - the rest of the genome varies too much by individual to draw any conclusions.
Like I said earlier Human = Human.

You wrote: "Ethnicity means the cultural and to some very limited extent the genetic heritage that is passed down by ones ancestors."

Was my red hair part of my 'genetic heritage'? Yes and it is a rare gift the smallest hair color group in the human race and passibly less the 30,000 in the gen pool. My HUMAN gene pool that has nothing to do with my cultural training.

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#33 Jul 19, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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Like I said earlier Human = Human.
You wrote: "Ethnicity means the cultural and to some very limited extent the genetic heritage that is passed down by ones ancestors."
Was my red hair part of my 'genetic heritage'? Yes and it is a rare gift the smallest hair color group in the human race and passibly less the 30,000 in the gen pool. My HUMAN gene pool that has nothing to do with my cultural training.
A REDHEAD!!??

I knew there was something I liked about you that I couldn't see. Yet.

A Lefthander with a redheaded, Scottish grandfather and, yes, I do carry the recessive gene and am certain that I have passed it on!

RK
RK

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#34 Jul 19, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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If you don't like the performance site then don't go there. Even you should understand that is purely your choice.
You may love X rated movies but you canít criticize the theaters that shows them if you buy the ticket to see the performance. That is called free will or just good old fashion freedom. Hypocrite!
By the way how can you be both a Jew and an atheist? Judaism is a religion that believes in one God and an atheist totally denies the existence of any god(s). Your claim is like saying: Iím a little pregnant or I am dead. You canít be a member of a religion and an atheist. You canít be both living and dead. Do you have a dictionary?
Judaism is an ancestry, a culture and a religion.

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#36 Jul 20, 2012
Do less drugs.

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#37 Jul 20, 2012
RevKen wrote:
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A REDHEAD!!??
I knew there was something I liked about you that I couldn't see. Yet.
A Lefthander with a redheaded, Scottish grandfather and, yes, I do carry the recessive gene and am certain that I have passed it on!
RK
RK
I love being on the genetic cutting edge. They are now speculating that the gene for red hair is a new mutation. It is possible that it has only been a part of the gene pool for the last 30,000 - 50,000 years. That is one of the reasons that we have the lowest count for hair types in the gene pool.

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#38 Jul 20, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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I love being on the genetic cutting edge. They are now speculating that the gene for red hair is a new mutation. It is possible that it has only been a part of the gene pool for the last 30,000 - 50,000 years. That is one of the reasons that we have the lowest count for hair types in the gene pool.
It might also be that the interbreeding between homo sapiens and homo neanderthalensis (red hair was common with them, evidently), added red hair to the human gene pool.

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#39 Jul 20, 2012
As far as I know, virtually every "Christian" denomination believes they are led and guided by the "Holy Spirit".

The problem arises when one group claims another group ISN'T following what the first group says are the rules Holy Spirit wants followed.

SSM is creating far more questions than just who is eligible for the sanctity of marriage. A few years ago the Presbyterians claimed the Holy Spirit said it's OK to have a gay minister as long as he remained celibate. And in the R.C.C. priests are to be celibate unless they are men who were married converts from another faith.

Seems the Holy Spirit makes up a lot of exceptions to it's "rules".

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#41 Jul 21, 2012
Edio wrote:
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It might also be that the interbreeding between homo sapiens and homo neanderthalensis (red hair was common with them, evidently), added red hair to the human gene pool.
Cool! Do you have any family pictures you could share with us about or articles to read on the subject.

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#42 Jul 21, 2012
T McCabe wrote:
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Cool! Do you have any family pictures you could share with us about or articles to read on the subject.
Family pics? LOL. I was a reddish-blond-brown before I went gray, but I have a nephew that's a beautiful shade of red. Anyway, here's a few links. Interesting stuff:

http://www.dhamurian.org.au/anthropology/nean...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationw...

http://news.discovery.com/human/neanderthal-h...

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18869-n...

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#43 Jul 21, 2012
And here's another about the Scots

http://www.aulis.com/news12.htm

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#44 Jul 21, 2012
Edio wrote:
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It might also be that the interbreeding between homo sapiens and homo neanderthalensis (red hair was common with them, evidently), added red hair to the human gene pool.
Uh ... genetically, it was interbreeding between cro-magnon and neanderthal that produced sapiens.

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#46 Jul 21, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Uh ... genetically, it was interbreeding between cro-magnon and neanderthal that produced sapiens.
Cro-magnon is homo sapiens.

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#47 Jul 22, 2012
Edio wrote:
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Cro-magnon is homo sapiens.
Not quite as we know it. Just one of our two parents.

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#48 Jul 23, 2012
Edio wrote:
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Family pics? LOL. I was a reddish-blond-brown before I went gray, but I have a nephew that's a beautiful shade of red. Anyway, here's a few links. Interesting stuff:
http://www.dhamurian.org.au/anthropology/nean...
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationw...
http://news.discovery.com/human/neanderthal-h...
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18869-n...
Thanks and yes indeed I do have Scot genes.

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#49 Jul 25, 2012
You Fight Our Wars wrote:
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You must be a Rabbi, shalom.
perhaps I was in a previous life!

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#50 Jul 26, 2012
snyper wrote:
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Not quite as we know it. Just one of our two parents.
I think the jury is still out about a lot of this. Peak ice age was around 20,000 years ago. Southern Europe was barely habitable, except near the coast.

When tribes of humans were able to re-inhabit the northern latitudes, their establishment of permanent colonies along the northern coastlines began a slow natural selection of skin types and hair colors related to a diminishing need for the sun-blocking effect of melanin pigment, in order to allow greater absorption of sunlight and production of vitamin D.

Blondes and redheads are a fairly recent development. Last 20,000 years, probably.

But, I like them both and am partial to redheads, having a bit of Scottish heritage mixed in, myself. Don't know about the Neanderthal in the mix. But, my wife has accused me of it.

Rev. Ken

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#51 Jul 26, 2012
"I offer you peace. I offer you love. I offer you friendship. I see your beauty. I hear your need. I feel your feelings. My wisdom flows from the Highest Source. I salute that Source in you. Let us work together for unity and love."
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