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Majority Catholic Support Marriage Equality, New Poll Says

There are 21 comments on the EDGE story from Oct 9, 2013, titled Majority Catholic Support Marriage Equality, New Poll Says. In it, EDGE reports that:

According to a new poll, the majority of Catholics in the U.S. back gay marriage as well as the ordination of women to the priesthood, CatholicCulture.org reports.

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Catholic Girl

United States

#1 Oct 9, 2013
ok,I surrender. Agree with gay stuff, still not my lifestyle, just takes time to change these days.
But the only way women will be ordained priest is if hell freezes over. But wait, there's female alter servers now. Ghee and the litgurical people are mostly women. Maybe there's hope yet. don't know why a woman would want to be a priest. Way to strenous a job.
Peace everyone.
Catholic Guy

Reading, PA

#2 Oct 9, 2013
Where was the poll taken, California? I don`t believe it. If it wasn`t for the left wing media, it would not be an issue at all. Gays only make up about 2% of the population. The Church could not ordain women to be priests if they wanted to, Christ never established the Sacrament to include woman, in other words, He never gave that authority to the Church. Some women seem to have the misconception that priesthood is a position of
power, it is not, it is a calling to serve and there are many ways to do that and actually polls
do not mean anything to the Church anyway. The Church is not democracy and we don`t get to vote
for the laws and teachings we have to live by. For some od reason, the media dose not seem to get that. Pax.
Catholic Girl

United States

#3 Oct 10, 2013
Right on Catholic Guy... you are correct.
Michael

Canada

#4 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
ok,I surrender. Agree with gay stuff, still not my lifestyle, just takes time to change these days.
But the only way women will be ordained priest is if hell freezes over. But wait, there's female alter servers now. Ghee and the litgurical people are mostly women. Maybe there's hope yet. don't know why a woman would want to be a priest. Way to strenous a job.
Peace everyone.
Way too strenuous a job you say! Women are better at handling stree than men are.

Today we have women in virtually every occupation and doing good.

Today there are many thousands of women who are protestant ministers. They seem to do the job just fine.

Firefighting, policing, CEO's, doctors, lawyers, truck drivers, garbage collectors, etc are some of the many strenuous jobs women have today.

A priests job is easy.

......No heavy lifting, never get your hands dirty, no time clock to punch, never go on strike, never get layed off, women in the parish bake your favorite pies/cakes and deliver them.......a salary with free room and board, car allowance, medical/dental coverage and a pension and thousands of $$ every year in stipends for performing funerals/weddings and baptisms. No one else to have to support. Its all for them. The perfect job!!

...ya say mass once or twice a day, visit a few sick people and pray for them, hear a few confessions, visit a couple schools, a baptism every couple weeks, a couple funerals and weddings every month..........other than that. A lot of down time.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#5 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
ok,I surrender. Agree with gay stuff, still not my lifestyle, just takes time to change these days.
But the only way women will be ordained priest is if hell freezes over. But wait, there's female alter servers now. Ghee and the litgurical people are mostly women. Maybe there's hope yet. don't know why a woman would want to be a priest. Way to strenous a job.
Peace everyone.
"don't know why a woman would want to be a priest. Way to strenous a job."

You do know there are female police officers, firefighters, soldiers etc and don't forget about a mother who does multi-tasking jobs! Therefore a woman can be a good priest if those doors to the priesthood were opened to her. There are no female priest in the Roman Catholic Church because the men make the rules not God.

For those who say Jesus doesn't want female priests you are just afraid to go against the Vatican ways. If it was left to people like you the Catholic hierarchy would still be burning people at the stake who disagree with them for whatever reason especially suppose being witches.

Remember you and I were not there in the years of 22 AD's and so forth. It's not unusual for history to be written by winners. So many people didn't even know how to write or read. So it stands to reason a lot of stuff in the past was embellished and even made up. History has a track record for not treating females as equals especially the Roman Catholic Church. Yes the Catholic Church has made some changes but they still have a long way to go when it comes to female issues, I'm just saying.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#6 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Guy wrote:
Where was the poll taken, California? I don`t believe it. If it wasn`t for the left wing media, it would not be an issue at all. Gays only make up about 2% of the population. The Church could not ordain women to be priests if they wanted to, Christ never established the Sacrament to include woman, in other words, He never gave that authority to the Church. Some women seem to have the misconception that priesthood is a position of
power, it is not, it is a calling to serve and there are many ways to do that and actually polls
do not mean anything to the Church anyway. The Church is not democracy and we don`t get to vote
for the laws and teachings we have to live by. For some od reason, the media dose not seem to get that. Pax.
Those days of not speaking up and pretending the Catholic clergy are above criticism that is so so over, Catholic Guy.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#7 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
Right on Catholic Guy... you are correct.
Many Catholic females don't agree with Catholic Guy.

Catholic Girl when you talk to a Catholic male do always agree with what he says or asks plus does it come natural for you Catholic Girl to say 'yes master' to him?
Dan

United States

#8 Oct 10, 2013
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
"don't know why a woman would want to be a priest. Way to strenous a job."
You do know there are female police officers, firefighters, soldiers etc and don't forget about a mother who does multi-tasking jobs! Therefore a woman can be a good priest if those doors to the priesthood were opened to her. There are no female priest in the Roman Catholic Church because the men make the rules not God.
For those who say Jesus doesn't want female priests you are just afraid to go against the Vatican ways. If it was left to people like you the Catholic hierarchy would still be burning people at the stake who disagree with them for whatever reason especially suppose being witches.
Remember you and I were not there in the years of 22 AD's and so forth. It's not unusual for history to be written by winners. So many people didn't even know how to write or read. So it stands to reason a lot of stuff in the past was embellished and even made up. History has a track record for not treating females as equals especially the Roman Catholic Church. Yes the Catholic Church has made some changes but they still have a long way to go when it comes to female issues, I'm just saying.
Ordination isn't an "empowerment" thing. The Church cannot ordain women-they don't have the authority to do it.

Women hold any number of high level positions in Catholic schools, hospitals, charitable enterprises, etc.
Catholic Girl

United States

#9 Oct 10, 2013
Seems everyone confusing stress with strength. There is a difference. Priest job is 24/7, no time for self. Yes they have days off of course. Every priest must say Mass at least once a day, everyday. Priest who is lucky to have a parish must oversee the daily running of that parish. Put up with all sorts of human beings, good, bad and the ugly. Plus the guy has to listen to everyones problems, sins, etc. All with a happy face. Plus when one looks at the heiarchy of the church, it resembles military style mgmt. ex. deacon - private, newly ordained priest - corporal, assist pastor - sargent, pastor/rector - captain and so on. Since I have a job, the same thing happens here also, mgmt. pushing to move up in company. Same as priests wanting to move up in church regime, for what you may ask. Higher salary and benefits of course. No priest/clergy are above critism, it's called respect. Respect is something not mentioned in todays society.
Estelle, don't always agree with catholic male. are you nuts. God gave everyone freedom of choice and a mind to go along with it.
It is written in the bible somewhere, i read it but can't remember which book. anyway it states reason why women are not to be over men, etc. Ghee whiz the men have to do something. Or else they may just lay around like the lion in safari. The lioness is the hunter.
Greatly in todays world the catholic women have helped run the church. We'd be in a real pickle if this didn't happen. Women are all blessed.
Get the real info. about subjects before speaking out. Get to know your priests in your parish and how do you do this. Volunteer at the parish. Most are very nice, intelligent, compasionate beings.
Peace my friends,
Catholic Girl

United States

#10 Oct 10, 2013
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Many Catholic females don't agree with Catholic Guy.
Catholic Girl when you talk to a Catholic male do always agree with what he says or asks plus does it come natural for you Catholic Girl to say 'yes master' to him?
Those that don't agree with Catholic Guy never read the bible. If I didn't agree with the Guy I would not have stated, so.
What's wrong with that? do you disagree with everyone just because. Or do you just disagree with men.

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#11 Oct 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Ordination isn't an "empowerment" thing. The Church cannot ordain women-they don't have the authority to do it.
Women hold any number of high level positions in Catholic schools, hospitals, charitable enterprises, etc.
I agree there are women who hold high level positions in Catholic schools, hospitals, charitable enterprises, etc.

Dan who said the Church cannot ordain women-they don't have the authority to do it?

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#12 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Those that don't agree with Catholic Guy never read the bible. If I didn't agree with the Guy I would not have stated, so.
What's wrong with that? do you disagree with everyone just because. Or do you just disagree with men.
"Those that don't agree with Catholic Guy never read the bible."

Wrong Catholic Girl many people read the Bible and still wouldn't agree with some things Catholic Guy is saying.

We all have free will to agree and disagree Catholic Girl.
Catholic Girl

United States

#13 Oct 10, 2013
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
"Those that don't agree with Catholic Guy never read the bible."
Wrong Catholic Girl many people read the Bible and still wouldn't agree with some things Catholic Guy is saying.
We all have free will to agree and disagree Catholic Girl.
Absolutely...

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#14 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
Seems everyone confusing stress with strength. There is a difference. Priest job is 24/7, no time for self. Yes they have days off of course. Every priest must say Mass at least once a day, everyday. Priest who is lucky to have a parish must oversee the daily running of that parish. Put up with all sorts of human beings, good, bad and the ugly. Plus the guy has to listen to everyones problems, sins, etc. All with a happy face. Plus when one looks at the heiarchy of the church, it resembles military style mgmt. ex. deacon - private, newly ordained priest - corporal, assist pastor - sargent, pastor/rector - captain and so on. Since I have a job, the same thing happens here also, mgmt. pushing to move up in company. Same as priests wanting to move up in church regime, for what you may ask. Higher salary and benefits of course. No priest/clergy are above critism, it's called respect. Respect is something not mentioned in todays society.
Estelle, don't always agree with catholic male. are you nuts. God gave everyone freedom of choice and a mind to go along with it.
It is written in the bible somewhere, i read it but can't remember which book. anyway it states reason why women are not to be over men, etc. Ghee whiz the men have to do something. Or else they may just lay around like the lion in safari. The lioness is the hunter.
Greatly in todays world the catholic women have helped run the church. We'd be in a real pickle if this didn't happen. Women are all blessed.
Get the real info. about subjects before speaking out. Get to know your priests in your parish and how do you do this. Volunteer at the parish. Most are very nice, intelligent, compasionate beings.
Peace my friends,
You do realize Catholic Girl that there are many different versions and interpretations of the Bible. There are many books that were omitted. All the different languages, different times, words that mean different things to a variety of people etc..

Catholic Girl this statement you made says a lot about you:

"It is written in the bible somewhere, i read it but can't remember which book. anyway it states reason why women are not to be over men, etc."

Anyone who thinks like you are in for a rude awakening one day.
Catholic Guy

Reading, PA

#15 Oct 10, 2013
Catholic Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Absolutely...
Seems to me Dan and Estelle would rather interpret the Bible to suit their own agenda. Working on that premise, they really don`t need the Church or the Magisterium nor the Holy Spirit. Seems to
me they would just rather do it their way which is a common trait
in a secularist society. Dan read the New Testament describing
the account of the Last Supper when the Eucharistic Sacrament was
established by the Lord, the Apostles were at the Last Supper. When
the Lord sent the 72 out to preach the good news, they were men.
You know speaking of free will, your are absolutely correct and
there are many paths to Christ, so feel free to follow Him in
many other ways where some actually ordain woman and appoint
them as bishops. As I said before, don't look for the Church to change anytime soon to accommodate your agendas, it is not run
by political parties that bend to left and right agendas, it is
guided by 2000 years of traditions and teachings and Dogmas
guided by the Holy Spirit through the Magisterium in other
words if you choose not follow the churches teachings, that`s
fine, no one is forcing you to stay. On the matter of woman
leaders, some of the most outspoken and loudest have been a
very public embarrassment to the Church which is why the
LCWR is under the direction of Bishops at the direction of
the Vatican. Their positions on abortion and woman ordination
and other areas not in compliance with the Magisterium have
come under the close watch of the Vatican and don`t be
surprised if in the near future they are suppressed. Also,
sadly, some woman nuns who consider themselves CATHOLIC
theologians have had their books banned. Christ taught in
all humility, pain and suffering and died on the cross with
common criminals, He didn`t seek equality with God, something
to be grasped at and He won`t force you to do it His way, the
choice is yours, right up to your last breath. Pax.
Catholic Guy

Reading, PA

#16 Oct 10, 2013
The Comment above was written by Catholic Guy in response to other comments. For some reason it was
posted as Catholic Girl and I don`t want her to get into trouble with those who disagree with me.
Pax
Catholic Girl

United States

#17 Oct 11, 2013
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
You do realize Catholic Girl that there are many different versions and interpretations of the Bible. There are many books that were omitted. All the different languages, different times, words that mean different things to a variety of people etc..
Catholic Girl this statement you made says a lot about you:
"It is written in the bible somewhere, i read it but can't remember which book. anyway it states reason why women are not to be over men, etc."
Anyone who thinks like you are in for a rude awakening one day.
Well I hope I'm ready for that day.....:)
Peace my friend.
Catholic Girl

United States

#18 Oct 11, 2013
Catholic Guy wrote:
The Comment above was written by Catholic Guy in response to other comments. For some reason it was
posted as Catholic Girl and I don`t want her to get into trouble with those who disagree with me.
Pax
Thanks Pax.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#19 Oct 11, 2013
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree there are women who hold high level positions in Catholic schools, hospitals, charitable enterprises, etc.
Dan who said the Church cannot ordain women-they don't have the authority to do it?
The Church has said this.

Here's the detail if you're inclined.

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_i...

Essentially, the position is that while Christ could have selected women as Apostles, He did not.

"She (the Church) holds that it is not admissible to ordain women to the priesthood, for very fundamental reasons. These reasons include: the example recorded in the Sacred Scriptures of Christ choosing his Apostles only from among men; the constant practice of the Church, which has imitated Christ in choosing only men; and her living teaching authority which has consistently held that the exclusion of women from the priesthood is in accordance with God's plan for his Church."(1)

There are many Christian denominations, obviously, who don't hold this position.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#20 Oct 11, 2013
Catholic Guy wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me Dan and Estelle would rather interpret the Bible to suit their own agenda. Working on that premise, they really don`t need the Church or the Magisterium nor the Holy Spirit. Seems to
me they would just rather do it their way which is a common trait
in a secularist society. Dan read the New Testament describing
the account of the Last Supper when the Eucharistic Sacrament was
established by the Lord, the Apostles were at the Last Supper. When
the Lord sent the 72 out to preach the good news, they were men.
You know speaking of free will, your are absolutely correct and
there are many paths to Christ, so feel free to follow Him in
many other ways where some actually ordain woman and appoint
them as bishops. As I said before, don't look for the Church to change anytime soon to accommodate your agendas, it is not run
by political parties that bend to left and right agendas, it is
guided by 2000 years of traditions and teachings and Dogmas
guided by the Holy Spirit through the Magisterium in other
words if you choose not follow the churches teachings, that`s
fine, no one is forcing you to stay. On the matter of woman
leaders, some of the most outspoken and loudest have been a
very public embarrassment to the Church which is why the
LCWR is under the direction of Bishops at the direction of
the Vatican. Their positions on abortion and woman ordination
and other areas not in compliance with the Magisterium have
come under the close watch of the Vatican and don`t be
surprised if in the near future they are suppressed. Also,
sadly, some woman nuns who consider themselves CATHOLIC
theologians have had their books banned. Christ taught in
all humility, pain and suffering and died on the cross with
common criminals, He didn`t seek equality with God, something
to be grasped at and He won`t force you to do it His way, the
choice is yours, right up to your last breath. Pax.
If you think I practice private interpretation of Scripture or advocate for female ordination, "seems to me" that you didn't read my post very well.

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