Deadbeat parents cost taxpayers $53 b...

Deadbeat parents cost taxpayers $53 billion

There are 69 comments on the money.cnn.com story from Nov 5, 2012, titled Deadbeat parents cost taxpayers $53 billion. In it, money.cnn.com reports that:

Over $100 billion is owed in unpaid child support -- nearly half of that to taxpayers supporting children on public assistance.

With SSM such a big issue this year, with four States voting on SSM, and with the focus of the anti gay forces on "the good of the children", I think we should look at how focused the religious right is in actually helping the children most in need.

According to the federal Office of Child Support Enforcement, $108 billion in total back payments was owed to parents with custody of children in 2009. If those payments aren't made and the children then need to go on public assistance, payments are supposed to be made to the government in the form of reimbursement. About 49% of that back money -- or roughly $53 billion -- is owed to the government, according to Joan Entmacher, vice president of family & economic security of the National Women's Law Center.

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JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#1 Nov 5, 2012
Using the example of deadbeat straight parents as justification for allowing innocent children to be subjected to being raised in a homosexual household is the most blatant form of rationalization.

“Where's my fairy wand!”

Since: Apr 08

Reading PA

#2 Nov 5, 2012
JrEsq wrote:
Using the example of deadbeat straight parents as justification for allowing innocent children to be subjected to being raised in a homosexual household is the most blatant form of rationalization.
No it's just a reminder that straight households aren't the end all and be all that you wing-nuts claim they are.

Straight parents aren't better parents or better for kids just because they are straight. Good parents are good parents because they give a shit about their kids, biological or adopted makes no difference to good parents.

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#3 Nov 5, 2012
And FYI Jr...NOT a thing in that article mentioning children being raised by a homosexual household! Face it, you STR8s need to man-up and PAY for your kids! Women too!
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#5 Nov 5, 2012
Imprtnrd wrote:
And FYI Jr...NOT a thing in that article mentioning children being raised by a homosexual household! Face it, you STR8s need to man-up and PAY for your kids! Women too!
Yes, straights need to get their act together on the parenting issue, but queer parenting is not the answer.
Why do you conclude each of your posts with an exclamation point? Do gays see everything as orgasmic?

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#6 Nov 5, 2012
Normal Male Hetero wrote:
<quoted text> Why don't you STFU and go make a butt baby?!?!
LMFAO
Waaay to busy giving you NEGETIVE icons on EVERY thread you're in. ROTFL@U =)
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#7 Nov 5, 2012
Imprtnrd wrote:
<quoted text>Waaay to busy giving you NEGETIVE icons on EVERY thread you're in. ROTFL@U =)
Q. If gays could reproduce, what would they use for birth control?
A. Their personalities.

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#8 Nov 5, 2012
JrEsq wrote:
Using the example of deadbeat straight parents as justification for allowing innocent children to be subjected to being raised in a homosexual household is the most blatant form of rationalization.
You have it backwards. It's you people that are constantly fantasizing about how wonderful and perfect all heterosexual parents are that this article is directed to. It's just another example of how inaccurate your fantasies are, isn't it?

But, hey! Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasies. You just keep right on believing that straight couples are all living in utter bliss with their perfect families and every child is a wanted and loved child. Go ahead!!

But don't look too close. You might find out that there are MILLIONS of children in foster care that have been dumped by their bio parents. MILLIONS more are being raised in poverty by a single parent because the other fine upstanding hetero parent has abandoned them.

But, hey! Don't let that get in the way of your crazy fantasies. Anything's better than a child that's been abandoned by his or her bio parents being raised by another set of loving parents, huh?
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#10 Nov 5, 2012
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
You have it backwards. It's you people that are constantly fantasizing about how wonderful and perfect all heterosexual parents are that this article is directed to. It's just another example of how inaccurate your fantasies are, isn't it?
But, hey! Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasies. You just keep right on believing that straight couples are all living in utter bliss with their perfect families and every child is a wanted and loved child. Go ahead!!
But don't look too close. You might find out that there are MILLIONS of children in foster care that have been dumped by their bio parents. MILLIONS more are being raised in poverty by a single parent because the other fine upstanding hetero parent has abandoned them.
But, hey! Don't let that get in the way of your crazy fantasies. Anything's better than a child that's been abandoned by his or her bio parents being raised by another set of loving parents, huh?
What fantasy? In my original post I did refer to "deadbeat straight parents", so I was being honest and realist. It is gay marriage and gay parenting that is the fantasy.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#12 Nov 5, 2012
JrEsq wrote:
Using the example of deadbeat straight parents as justification for allowing innocent children to be subjected to being raised in a homosexual household is the most blatant form of rationalization.
I had a feeling you'd be the first one here.

It's odd you make that claim when compared to your comments on the thread about the two gay foster parents charged with molesting their children.

In that case you have no problem condemning all gays and lesbians.

But if any of us point out some of the cracks in the "sacred institution of marriage" you keep thumping, we get told we're not being fair.

A good childhood friend had a term for stuff like that. "Bulldinky".

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#13 Nov 5, 2012
eJohn wrote:
<quoted text>
You have it backwards. It's you people that are constantly fantasizing about how wonderful and perfect all heterosexual parents are that this article is directed to. It's just another example of how inaccurate your fantasies are, isn't it?
But, hey! Don't let reality get in the way of your fantasies. You just keep right on believing that straight couples are all living in utter bliss with their perfect families and every child is a wanted and loved child. Go ahead!!
But don't look too close. You might find out that there are MILLIONS of children in foster care that have been dumped by their bio parents. MILLIONS more are being raised in poverty by a single parent because the other fine upstanding hetero parent has abandoned them.
But, hey! Don't let that get in the way of your crazy fantasies. Anything's better than a child that's been abandoned by his or her bio parents being raised by another set of loving parents, huh?
many thanks EJohn. A friend and teacher actually sent me this story. I told him I was going to post it and speculated on who'd be the first to ask why this is on a G&L thread.

Color me embarrassed that THAT topic hasn't come up yet. But it is interesting to note the subject brought up in the very first post of this thread. When did this country start saying that stating a fact is the same as attacking someone?

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#14 Nov 5, 2012
JrEsq wrote:
Yes, straights need to get their act together on the parenting issue, but queer parenting is not the answer.
What do you propose... going door-to-door to the homes of gay people raising children, and snatch them away? Fines or prison time to gay people who dare to raise children, even their own?

Or maybe you're like most people on your side of the issue, who seem to believe that by banning same-sex marriages, gay people will simply lose all motivation to raise children? That families headed by same-sex couples will simply vanish if they cannot marry?

Whatever you may think of "queer parenting", you have absolutely no recourse to stop it, marriage equality or not. There isn't a damn thing you can do, ever. Get used to it.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#15 Nov 5, 2012
Brown Lipstick wrote:
Hollywood gays projected vice and violence for decades and now they attempt to twist the bi-product of their projected perversions into their favor.
The yolk is finally separating from the white however and they will be called out on this in time. You can run but you cannot hide.
Stealing our youth was the last straw.
The devil is ridin high in Massachusetts and in one day he will fall just as quickly as he rode.
I promise you!
Gays and lesbians aren't the subject of this thread or the topic of the story.

Deadbeat parents are.

But it's always easier for you to demonize us than it is to look in your own house.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#16 Nov 5, 2012
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you propose... going door-to-door to the homes of gay people raising children, and snatch them away? Fines or prison time to gay people who dare to raise children, even their own?
Or maybe you're like most people on your side of the issue, who seem to believe that by banning same-sex marriages, gay people will simply lose all motivation to raise children? That families headed by same-sex couples will simply vanish if they cannot marry?
Whatever you may think of "queer parenting", you have absolutely no recourse to stop it, marriage equality or not. There isn't a damn thing you can do, ever. Get used to it.
Don't forget these as well:

The LGBT Foster Care Project
http://www.gaycenter.org/families/fostercarep...

Adoption and Foster Care by Lesbian and Gay Parents in the United States
http://www.urban.org/publications/411437.html

Overview of Lesbian and Gay Parenting, Adoption and Foster Care
http://www.aclu.org/lgbt-rights_hiv-aids/over...
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#17 Nov 5, 2012
EdmondWA wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you propose... going door-to-door to the homes of gay people raising children, and snatch them away? Fines or prison time to gay people who dare to raise children, even their own?
Or maybe you're like most people on your side of the issue, who seem to believe that by banning same-sex marriages, gay people will simply lose all motivation to raise children? That families headed by same-sex couples will simply vanish if they cannot marry?
Whatever you may think of "queer parenting", you have absolutely no recourse to stop it, marriage equality or not. There isn't a damn thing you can do, ever. Get used to it.
Can't stop cancer either.
Doesn't mean cancer is right for everybody.
JrEsq

El Segundo, CA

#18 Nov 5, 2012
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>Gays and lesbians aren't the subject of this thread or the topic of the story.
Deadbeat parents are.
But it's always easier for you to demonize us than it is to look in your own house.
DNF, please allow me one off-topic question:
You profess to be a Christian. On your judgement day, when you stand before the Lord, and he asks-
"DNF, when all those gay posters on Topix were blaspheming me and my Father, why did you not defend us?
How will you answer?

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#19 Nov 5, 2012
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JrEsq wrote:
<quoted text>
DNF, please allow me one off-topic question:
You profess to be a Christian. On your judgement day, when you stand before the Lord, and he asks-
"DNF, when all those gay posters on Topix were blaspheming me and my Father, why did you not defend us?
How will you answer?

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#20 Nov 5, 2012
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JrEsq wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't stop cancer either.
Doesn't mean cancer is right for everybody.

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#21 Nov 5, 2012
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Brown Lipstick wrote:
Hollywood gays projected vice and violence for decades and now they attempt to twist the bi-product of their projected perversions into their favor.
The yolk is finally separating from the white however and they will be called out on this in time. You can run but you cannot hide.
Stealing our youth was the last straw.
The devil is ridin high in Massachusetts and in one day he will fall just as quickly as he rode.
I promise you!

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#22 Nov 5, 2012
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JrEsq wrote:
Using the example of deadbeat straight parents as justification for allowing innocent children to be subjected to being raised in a homosexual household is the most blatant form of rationalization.

Since: May 12

Livonia, MI

#23 Nov 5, 2012
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Normal Male Hetero wrote:
<quoted text> Why don't you STFU and go make a butt baby?!?!
LMFAO

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