Thousands protest gay marriage

Thousands protest gay marriage

There are 1654 comments on the The Reporter story from Sep 5, 2010, titled Thousands protest gay marriage. In it, The Reporter reports that:

Thousands of Christian conservatives spent 12 hours Saturday praying and fasting in front of the state Capitol at a gathering organizers described as spiritual repentance "when there is no hope for a nation." The daylong religious event titled, "TheCall to Conscience," was led by Lou Engle as well as other pastors and speakers to protest gay ...

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Mr Hand

Campbell, CA

#24 Sep 6, 2010
Vaca Citizen wrote:
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Aren't some of these folks the same people who said that blacks and whites couldn't marry? Or that blacks should sit at the back of the bus?
Are you aware that there was a law on the books that said that it was illegal for men to molest any child except their daughters? Pretty sick isn't it.
Just because society thinks something that is wrong is right, doesn't make it right.
The stories are decidedly different. Ask a black if he/she sees a parallel and they'll tell you 'no.' References to obscure laws of the past or pointing out human flaws of the present doesn't tie it all together.

This is not about rights; it's about a societal interpretation. And, yes, society does have a right to decide many things. There is no civil right being violated here.

Granny in the Crosswalk

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#25 Sep 6, 2010
Right Is Wrong Again wrote:
Well, once again a mob of mystical myopics loiter long enough to remind people why the founders wanted separation of church and state. As the mob hymned and hollered, I am certain not one of the sheeple present took the time to ask 'what about this Constitution thing?''Does it apply?'
Then again, it's likely not much intelligent conversation took place during the din of proselytizing zombie wonks as they swayed and mumbled.
Why don't you and your boyfriend just have a civil ceremony?

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#26 Sep 6, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>They should, if that church approves of adultery, child molestation, and drug abuse...however, most Churches already have taken a stand against those sins and offer counseling for people who are trapped in them as well the sin of homosexuality.
Well, that's amusing, especially since homosexuality is not a sin to begin with.

“EQUAL RIGHTS”

Since: Feb 08

NO MORE-NO LESS

#27 Sep 6, 2010
legal, civil recognition is what marriage equality is all about, granny. what is so difficult to understand?

Granny in the Crosswalk

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#29 Sep 6, 2010
allie topeka wrote:
legal, civil recognition is what marriage equality is all about, granny. what is so difficult to understand?
LOL! You don't know the story with this guy, go help someone else.
Tom

Long Beach, CA

#30 Sep 6, 2010
"That's why Jesus said that God's plan from the beginning was the 'one man and one woman' model."

I can't find this in my Bible. I must have a different translation. Would you care to tell me where you find it?

In fact, I also can't find any passages attributed to Jesus concerning homosexuality. Where can I find them? Deuteronomy only lists the old laws, the ones Jesus said he was there to replace with "A New Covenant."

Can you help?
MattArmstrong

Tempe, AZ

#31 Sep 6, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it was Democrats who said that. In fact, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was a lifelong Republican ~ you know, the same party Abraham Lincoln belonged to.
Actually, both Democrats and Republicans said it at the time. And don't even try to claim Lincoln, he was as liberal as they came (Pro federal government, anti-war unless necessary, raised taxes, etc). Remember political history - Republicans were the liberals until the turn of the 20th century.

Granny in the Crosswalk

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#32 Sep 6, 2010
I hope a miracle does happen.

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#33 Sep 6, 2010
Tom wrote:
"That's why Jesus said that God's plan from the beginning was the 'one man and one woman' model."
I can't find this in my Bible. I must have a different translation. Would you care to tell me where you find it?
In fact, I also can't find any passages attributed to Jesus concerning homosexuality. Where can I find them? Deuteronomy only lists the old laws, the ones Jesus said he was there to replace with "A New Covenant."
Can you help?
Actually, the only time that Jesus mentions anything related to homosexuality is in Matthew 19:12 when He speaks of the eunuchs who were born from the mother's womb. He was also quite impressed with the Roman Centurion who is believed to have been gay.
Ed Sisea

United States

#34 Sep 6, 2010
Granny in the Crosswalk wrote:
I hope a miracle does happen.
Will we ever see a miracle of healing where someone regrows a lost limb? Why won't God/Jesus/Mary/Snoopy bring back those vets' legs?

Why is it miracles nowadays involve a politician voting a certain way, or a person getting cured from an invisible disease, or it snowing on Christmas, or some spaghetti shaped like Ted Nugent?

Granny in the Crosswalk

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#35 Sep 6, 2010
Ed Sisea wrote:
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Will we ever see a miracle of healing where someone regrows a lost limb? Why won't God/Jesus/Mary/Snoopy bring back those vets' legs?
Why is it miracles nowadays involve a politician voting a certain way, or a person getting cured from an invisible disease, or it snowing on Christmas, or some spaghetti shaped like Ted Nugent?
Mr. Sissy, it's a figure of speech. Like, Obama being the best presidump, ever!
Robot

United States

#36 Sep 6, 2010
AquariusNSF wrote:
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Actually, the only time that Jesus mentions anything related to homosexuality is in Matthew 19:12 when He speaks of the eunuchs who were born from the mother's womb. He was also quite impressed with the Roman Centurion who is believed to have been gay.
What part of your colon did you pull that one from? Eunuchs aren't queers and the only times sodomites are mentioned in the Bible it was in condemnation of the per version.
Robot

United States

#37 Sep 6, 2010
I was trying to say "qweers".
Vaca Citizen

San Jose, CA

#38 Sep 6, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>They should, if that church approves of adultery, child molestation, and drug abuse...however, most Churches already have taken a stand against those sins and offer counseling for people who are trapped in them as well the sin of homosexuality.
Actually, it's been proven that many churches cover up those sins in attempts to maintain their "flock" and reputation and well income!

And Catholic churches aren't the only ones who have covered these sins. And not all churches agree that homosexual marriage shouldn't be allowed.

They could also protest on the fact that these people are Judging and if you are going to live by one rule of the bible then you must live by them all including Judge Not Lest Yet Be Judged and the ever important Clean the plank out of your own eye before you exam the spec in your brothers.

Jesus never stood with signs in protest of the prostitute, David, etc. He was ever welcoming and loving towards everyone and said "Let He who is without sin cast the first stone".

I mean heck if we are going to live by Biblical standards then other than for Pastors and Deacons polygamy and bigamy should be legal because as much as people want to say that changed, there is no accounting in scripture that says it did. Soooooooo even in scripture marriage is NOT ONE man and ONE woman!
Right Is Wrong Again

United States

#39 Sep 6, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>The Separation clause isn't in the Constitution RIWA.
You need to look up the Danbury letter and Jefferson's response.
'The Founders wanted separation of church and state' relates to a clause in the Constitution how? Baseless assumption.

“II Samuel 1:26”

Since: Jan 09

Location hidden

#40 Sep 6, 2010
Robot wrote:
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What part of your colon did you pull that one from? Eunuchs aren't queers and the only times sodomites are mentioned in the Bible it was in condemnation of the per version.
I pulled it from the ancient Aramaic language that Jesus used and considered the historical context. And, yes, the eunuchs who were born that way would include homosexuals. Do YOU have any evidence to the contrary? Or, are you just talking out of your azz???

And, sodomite (as used in the Bible) comes from the Hebrew word "qadhesh," and it means a male temple prostitute. It does NOT mean a male homosexual.
Vaca Citizen

San Jose, CA

#41 Sep 6, 2010
Mr Hand wrote:
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The stories are decidedly different. Ask a black if he/she sees a parallel and they'll tell you 'no.' References to obscure laws of the past or pointing out human flaws of the present doesn't tie it all together.
This is not about rights; it's about a societal interpretation. And, yes, society does have a right to decide many things. There is no civil right being violated here.
And blacks not marrying whites was also about societal interpretation, as was segregation and many other ridiculous laws including a woman not being able to vote.

If we let society interpret everything we'd be living by some screwed up values right now. I don't want to live by the racists societal interpretation, nor do I want to live by extremist, etc.

It's their choice to be together, if homosexuality is a sin then so be it. We don't prevent people from drinking to the point of drunkenness, Christians don't stand outside of bars and hotels protesting not only drunkenness but adultery.

It's truly not your business what goes on in someone else's bedroom and again

God created Adam and Eve but if you look throughout the Bible - marriage was rarely ONE man and ONE woman - God's beloved David a man after his own heart committed how many ridiculous sins and had how many wives? And scripture says if you commit one sin you commit then all - so again..........

LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE, JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED AND CLEAN THE PLANK OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE BEFORE YOU EXAM THE SPEC IN YOUR BROTHERS.

There are homosexual marriages already valid in California and California will recognize a gay marriage from another state, soooooooo really it's already here and staying!

Granny in the Crosswalk

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#42 Sep 6, 2010
Bored with television? Can't wait for Gay Divorcee television spin-offs? Gay Divorce Court and similar reality shows! Should pull up ratings and bring new entertainment venues for the mindless dolts watching TV reality shows nowadays.
Right Is Wrong Again

United States

#43 Sep 6, 2010
Mr Hand wrote:
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The stories are decidedly different. Ask a black if he/she sees a parallel and they'll tell you 'no.' References to obscure laws of the past or pointing out human flaws of the present doesn't tie it all together.
This is not about rights; it's about a societal interpretation. And, yes, society does have a right to decide many things. There is no civil right being violated here.
Obscure or not, a law is a law unless proven un-Constitutional; and whether Proposition 8 violates the due process clause will be decided by the SCOTUS.'Societal interpretations' are frequently used to justify abuse of people around the world, up to and including sanctioned murder of anyone violating societies' edicts. In this country, unless supported by law, society doesn't get to subjugate a minority based on perceived moral violations of religious dogma. And hopefully the courts will make a non-religious, un-Taliban like decision, as mysticism only gets in the way of societal progress.
Right Is Wrong Again

United States

#44 Sep 6, 2010
Ed Sisea wrote:
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Will we ever see a miracle of healing where someone regrows a lost limb? Why won't God/Jesus/Mary/Snoopy bring back those vets' legs?
Why is it miracles nowadays involve a politician voting a certain way, or a person getting cured from an invisible disease, or it snowing on Christmas, or some spaghetti shaped like Ted Nugent?
Sad isn't it, that so many people live like cave dwellers; scurrying about like lemmings, unable to think for themselves, basing life decisions on some obscure book written by other lemmings just like them. Some people just like living in the dark ages, and having a 'sky daddy' make them feel nice and secure while they scurry around in a world much more complicated than they can possibly perceive.

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