Ky. says gay marriage threatens state...

Ky. says gay marriage threatens state's birth rates

There are 220 comments on the The Town Talk story from May 9, 2014, titled Ky. says gay marriage threatens state's birth rates. In it, The Town Talk reports that:

Gov. Steve Beshear's lawyers say Kentucky's ban on gay marriage should be retained because only "man-woman" couples can naturally procreate - and the state has an interest in ensuring that they do.

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Larry

Richardson, TX

#1 May 9, 2014
Can I please get a drink?
Here we go again with the same old BS
In case you were in a coma for most of your life and just woke. Non all couples can naturally procreate. Have you been informed of that?
Please see Dr. and someone will inform you.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#2 May 9, 2014
This is obviously nonsensical and a sign of desperation.

How does allowing gay and lesbian Americans to marry inhibit other couples from reproducing ? It's laughable.
Pat Robertson s Fatwass

Philadelphia, PA

#3 May 9, 2014
I love the implication in making this argument: So many people now in str8 marriages and spawning are actually lgbt and uninterested in having these kids that simply making marriage equality legal there will reduce the birth rate....

It's an opinion that there's more closet cases than even the most jaded lgbt activist thinks there is. Of course this reveals what a preposterous argument it is.

Also, reduced fertility rates are a good thing, particularly in backwards regions of the globe.(We are discussing Kentucky.)
juls

Edison, OH

#4 May 9, 2014
does not deserve a comment...Ky gov is stupid...gee.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#5 May 10, 2014
Procreation is IRRELEVANT to one's right to marry.......and IF the right to marry for Gay and Lesbian couples will harm the birth rate........how then can the State be allowed to issue marriage licenses to women who are past the childbearing years? I mean the State CAN'T ask or test for infertility or if one is sterile, but the county clerk issuing the marriage license can tell by a woman's age if she is capable of having children, right? And if birth rates are truly NOT the issue and by the way, there NOT, then the ONLY reason for such a ridiculous argument is to set one's self up to lose on appeal!!!

Seems Kentucky is getting ready for a round 2 loss as well!!!

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#6 May 10, 2014
It would be nice if the birth rate in Kentucky could be brought doiwn that easily. But Iam afraid one would need a lot of pairs of scissors to really accomplish any change.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#7 May 10, 2014
From the article:
"In his ruling, Heyburn rejected the idea that procreation is a legitimate reason for gay-marriage bans, saying exclusion of same-sex couples on those grounds "makes just as little sense as excluding post-menopausal (heterosexual) couples or infertile couples.""

And this is why the procreation argument fails EVERY time!!!

When the State can answer the question, "How does denying the right to marry for Gays and Lesbians have ANYTHING to do with preventing opposite-sex couples from procreating?" Then and ONLY then will this argument POSSIBLY win!!!
davi9d traversa

Capilla Del Monte, Argentina

#8 May 10, 2014
juls wrote:
does not deserve a comment...Ky gov is stupid...gee.
You said it .. Even if this were true ( and it's perfectly ridiculous to think it could ever be ) then gays would be doing the world an impossible-to ever-repay favor .. Christ ! aren't there enough idiots around already ?!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#9 May 10, 2014
I wish marriage equility really DID reduce the Kentucky birth rate
.
There would be less bird-brained morons like Gov. Beshear's lawyers in the world

“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#10 May 10, 2014
Ah yes, another cut-and-paste legal brief from cliplaw.com .(Or maybe courtesy of NOM, AFA, FRC, ADF, or one of those.). Seriously: they've forwarded these same arguments time after time and they've been consistently dismissed. Even SCOTUS has now officially dismissed these arguments. They haven't got a snowball's chance to survive the heat of debate.

One would almost think they're purposefully throwing the spaghetti against the wall, knowing that it won't stick. Except that these are the same arguments still being made by the true believers in "traditional" marriage. It's the best they've got. Pity the hopeless.

At least they're well-paid for it.
GeorgeK

Belleview, FL

#11 May 10, 2014
We have children in orphanages and foster care. More people is hardly our problem or in the government's interest.
PDXDru

Portland, OR

#12 May 10, 2014
GeorgeK wrote:
We have children in orphanages and foster care. More people is hardly our problem or in the government's interest.
Exactly... The government shouldn't care about how a child is born, but rather how that child is raised. And raised in a household where the parents actually love the child, not the 'accidental' by-product that these NOMers often use as part of their procreation arguments... "More people is hardly... in the government's interest." More and better parents is.
PDXDru

Portland, OR

#13 May 10, 2014
Pat Robertson s Fatwass wrote:
I love the implication in making this argument: So many people now in str8 marriages and spawning are actually lgbt and uninterested in having these kids that simply making marriage equality legal there will reduce the birth rate....
Exactly. "I'm sorry, your honor, but we can't allow gay folks to get married. We need those closet cases to be in unhappy relationships, resenting the children we are forcing them to have. Why, not only do we need a higher birth rate, we need to increase the number of depressed alcoholics down at the bar to stimulate the economy."

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#14 May 10, 2014
Yet ANOTHER stupidity excuse on their part to deny gays from marrying. Can't fix stupid but you can... drown it out.
Drew

Phoenix, AZ

#15 May 10, 2014
If that is the case, maybe you should open up your borders and let in the neighbors...What complete ignorance!
nbkcq28

El Dorado, AR

#17 May 10, 2014
I didn't realize that we gay folks were responsible for straight people being able to breed. Bigots must think that we are enormously powerful. lol.
Art

United States

#18 May 10, 2014
In other words, if gay marriage was legal in Kentucky, straights would marry their own gender instead, and thus deflate the birth rate. Thus, we must keep it illegal so straights will only have the option to marry other straights.(And maybe gays will "see the light" and do likewise.)

I don't mind "the other side" arguing against gay marriage, gay parenting, and gays in general. But when they use such idiotic "reasoning" (as they usually do), I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#19 May 10, 2014
Art wrote:
In other words, if gay marriage was legal in Kentucky, straights would marry their own gender instead, and thus deflate the birth rate. Thus, we must keep it illegal so straights will only have the option to marry other straights.(And maybe gays will "see the light" and do likewise.)
I don't mind "the other side" arguing against gay marriage, gay parenting, and gays in general. But when they use such idiotic "reasoning" (as they usually do), I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
It's so ridiculous, I do both. LOL

I wonder who the guy was who thought democracy was such a great idea.
Steve

Asheville, NC

#20 May 10, 2014
Yeah, I can see it now. "No, babe. Not tonight. I haven't been able to get it up ever since them gays started getting married."
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#21 May 10, 2014
One day gay marriage and civil rights will be the law of the land. Can't help but wonder why the homophobes can't figure this out.

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