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Life experiences shaped gay marriage votes

There are 12 comments on the KJCT story from Nov 18, 2012, titled Life experiences shaped gay marriage votes. In it, KJCT reports that:

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“TO HATE SOMEONE SIMPLY FOR WHO”

Since: Aug 08

THEY ARE IS WRONG!!!

#1 Nov 18, 2012
Simply an awesome article......one most should read!!!

These folks through their own personal journeys, made a difference this year in the election of Marriage Equality or denial of a State's Constitution.

Peace and thanks to them all!

Since: Mar 09

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#2 Nov 18, 2012
I couldn't agree more.

Not just for content, either. Beautifully written ... typos and all.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#3 Nov 18, 2012
Many have changed their understanding of gay people as they mature, but any delay is still a long time to wait for equal treatment under the law as required by the constitution. It is also a long time to wait for the young people who kill themselves every year because they can't assimilate their sexual orientation with the dehumanizing prejudice they were taught by some from early childhood.

Yet the science is in. All mainstream medical and social science organizations in the US agree, being gay is a natural expression of human love and bonding for a minority of the population. It has always been that way, and there is no longer any reasonable or scientifically supportable excuse for prejudice and discrimination. We also know for sure, that prejudice and discrimination lead to needless suffering and death. Now is the time to discard the unsupportable prejudice we have been taught from childhood, and treat everyone the way we would want to be treated.
david traversa

La Rioja, Argentina

#4 Nov 18, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Many have changed their understanding of gay people as they mature, but any delay is still a long time to wait for equal treatment under the law as required by the constitution. It is also a long time to wait for the young people who kill themselves every year because they can't assimilate their sexual orientation with the dehumanizing prejudice they were taught by some from early childhood.
Yet the science is in. All mainstream medical and social science organizations in the US agree, being gay is a natural expression of human love and bonding for a minority of the population. It has always been that way, and there is no longer any reasonable or scientifically supportable excuse for prejudice and discrimination. We also know for sure, that prejudice and discrimination lead to needless suffering and death. Now is the time to discard the unsupportable prejudice we have been taught from childhood, and treat everyone the way we would want to be treated.
Beautiful, beautiful comment..

Since: Mar 09

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#5 Nov 18, 2012
Not Yet Equal wrote:
Many have changed their understanding of gay people as they mature, but any delay is still a long time to wait for equal treatment under the law as required by the constitution. It is also a long time to wait for the young people who kill themselves every year because they can't assimilate their sexual orientation with the dehumanizing prejudice they were taught by some from early childhood.
Yet the science is in. All mainstream medical and social science organizations in the US agree, being gay is a natural expression of human love and bonding for a minority of the population. It has always been that way, and there is no longer any reasonable or scientifically supportable excuse for prejudice and discrimination. We also know for sure, that prejudice and discrimination lead to needless suffering and death. Now is the time to discard the unsupportable prejudice we have been taught from childhood, and treat everyone the way we would want to be treated.
Sing it !!

Since: Mar 09

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#7 Nov 18, 2012
Still lying and distorting the facts about people you don't know, eh "Caleb"?

Let's review ...

http://catholicism.about.com/od/Catholic-Dict...

Since: Mar 09

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#8 Nov 18, 2012
Caleb wrote:
... overwhelmingly rejected 'marriage' in EVERY country that allows it!
Then one wonders what's gotten you so obsessively worried.

Since: Jun 11

AOL

#9 Nov 18, 2012
309,000,000 Americans X 3% Gay Americans = 9,270,000.

9,270,000 Gay Americans / 50 States = 185,400 Gay Americans per State

185,400 Gay Americans per State X 6 States that allow Gay Marriage = 1,112,400

131,729 Reported Gay Marriages X 2 = 262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage

(262,458 Gay Americans in a Marriage / 1,112,400 X 100)= 23.6%

So proportionally, 23.6% of gay people are in a gay marriage. This rate would go up if you included civil unions and domestic partnerships. That means that about 1/4 of gay people are in a committed monogamous relationship.

Let's do heterosexuals now.

309,000,000 Americans X .97 Straight Americans = 299,730,000

According to the Census, a total of 114,567,419 households were reported.

Of those, 48.6% were reported as married couples.

114,567,419 X .486 = 55,679,765 married couples.

55,679,765 married couples X 2 = 111,359,539 married people.

299,730,000 Straight Americans / 111,359,539 married people X 100 = 37.1%.

So 23.1% of gay and lesbian Americans are reported to be in a marriage, and 37.1% of straight Americans are reported to be in a marriage.

That discrepancy has a lot of factors involved, but it does reveal that gays and lesbians are entering committed, monogamous relationships at steadily increasing rates, and the more accepting the society is for GLBT people, the more quickly you will see the two percentages become closer.

Isn't math fun?
Math is fun, isn't it? " (credit to Snyper, and Rainbow kid (?))

Imagine if marriage equality was recognized by all states and the feds, and had been for 50 years. Same sex marriage would likely be at least as popular for gay people as it is for straight people.

But no matter how many couples exercise their rights, the fundamental right of marriage is a right of the individual. It doesn't matter how many use it. Denial of equal rights are based on a harmful, cruel hoax: irrational prejudice.

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#10 Nov 18, 2012
fr Caleb (who is really DAVID MOORE FROM PEKIN IL):

>As ...!<

David Moore, QUIT SPAMMING THE BOARDS. We all know that it's YOU, no matter how many times you put in a false name.
david traversa

Argentina

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Caleb wrote:
As people gain life experience, they reject the fraud of homosexual 'marriage,' just as homosexuals have overwhelmingly rejected 'marriage' in EVERY country that allows it!
As usual, falsifying facts; 33,000 gay marriages in Spain alone.. And what "life experience" are you talking about? Homosexual marriage is a fairly recent event.. I suppose you're trying to sound smart.. but all you accomplish is letting the world know what a monumental fool you are..

Since: Dec 08

Toronto, ON, Canada

#13 Nov 19, 2012
An excellent article and certainly much better than the pap one usually expects from CNN.

It would be nice to see a companion piece about any strong life experience affecting those voting against - people who believe they have some reason to do so besides their church telling them to do so. Maybe they are all homophobic assholes, but people should be able to see their lives in detail too. Especially the ones who are activist against gay marriage but not certifiably loony like NOM.

Since: Mar 09

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#14 Nov 19, 2012
JohnInToronto wrote:
An excellent article and certainly much better than the pap one usually expects from CNN.
It would be nice to see a companion piece about any strong life experience affecting those voting against - people who believe they have some reason to do so besides their church telling them to do so. Maybe they are all homophobic assholes, but people should be able to see their lives in detail too. Especially the ones who are activist against gay marriage but not certifiably loony like NOM.
Yes.

"Gnothi Seuton"

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