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ACLU, gay couples seek Fla. marriage recognition

There are 26 comments on the News 4 Jax story from Mar 13, 2014, titled ACLU, gay couples seek Fla. marriage recognition. In it, News 4 Jax reports that:

Eight gay couples and the American Civil Liberties Union have sued the state of Florida, arguing it is discriminating against the couples by not recognizing same-sex marriages performed in states where they are legal.

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Since: Aug 08

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#1 Mar 13, 2014
I'm so ready for Florida to legalize it. If Texas can why not Florida?
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#2 Mar 14, 2014
Finally; this sticks the federal prybar into the 11th circuit states; Florida; Georgia; and Alabama
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Its about time! ;o) Nothing like waking out of a coma 10 years behind the rest of society
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#3 Mar 14, 2014
The full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to marriage license.
An example would be another license it doesn't apply to, a driver's license. Yes, if you have a driver's license in one state you can drive through another state. However, if you move to another state your out of state license will have to be replaced by one issued in your new state of residence.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Mar 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
The full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to marriage license.
An example would be another license it doesn't apply to, a driver's license. Yes, if you have a driver's license in one state you can drive through another state. However, if you move to another state your out of state license will have to be replaced by one issued in your new state of residence.
That would put an end to the need for divorce laws
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Renew your marriage license every year just like your driver's license
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If you fail to renew; you are no longer married
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#6 Mar 14, 2014
[QUOTE who="American & Proud"]<quoted text>
You must be a retard. That's it, a retarded fagg@t.[/QUOTE]

That's your problem not mine; sugarbumpkins
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How long have you been a virgin?
Strel

Tallahassee, FL

#8 Mar 14, 2014
[QUOTE who="American & Proud"]<quoted text>
Wrong, it's definitely not my problem.[/QUOTE]

Quite right. Gays getting married is not your problem, not your business, and doesn't affect your rights.

So what is your problem then?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#10 Mar 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
The full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to marriage license.
An example would be another license it doesn't apply to, a driver's license. Yes, if you have a driver's license in one state you can drive through another state. However, if you move to another state your out of state license will have to be replaced by one issued in your new state of residence.
Correct, the FF&C clause doesn't currently apply to marriage licenses; there has long been a public policy exception which the courts have carved out for states.

But this challenge isn't being made under the FF&C clause, but rather equal protection & due process. The same type of challenge which was effective in forcing Kentucky to recognize marriages of same-sex couples performed out of state.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#11 Mar 14, 2014
So there are lawsuits pending in either federal or state court in all but 6 of the 33 states which don't allow same-sex couples to marry, and we've already had favorable district court rulings in 6 out of 7 of those cases.

The 6 states without active lawsuits are AK, GA, MT, NE, ND, & SD, in case anyone living there would like to file a suit and join the club.

It's only a matter of time now.

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#12 Mar 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
The full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to marriage license.
An example would be another license it doesn't apply to, a driver's license. Yes, if you have a driver's license in one state you can drive through another state. However, if you move to another state your out of state license will have to be replaced by one issued in your new state of residence.
Well then according to that logic every straight married couple should have to re-new their marriage license and get a new one in each new state they live in. Are you saying that if I marry in Massachusetts and go to California where it is also legal that I need to get re-married in California so I'm considered married in both states?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#13 Mar 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
The full faith and credit clause doesn't apply to marriage license.
An example would be another license it doesn't apply to, a driver's license. Yes, if you have a driver's license in one state you can drive through another state. However, if you move to another state your out of state license will have to be replaced by one issued in your new state of residence.
While the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to marriage LICENSES issued by states, it DOES apply to marriages performed in other states. There are NO exceptions in that clause.

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#14 Mar 14, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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While the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to marriage LICENSES issued by states, it DOES apply to marriages performed in other states. There are NO exceptions in that clause.
Next right wingers will probably try to amend the full faith and credit clause to fit their discriminatory agenda.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#15 Mar 14, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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While the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to marriage LICENSES issued by states, it DOES apply to marriages performed in other states. There are NO exceptions in that clause.
I disagree. But, as I've said elsewhere, the most a state would have to do to meet that requirement is acknowledge that the gay couple married in another state, they would not have to honor the marriage.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#16 Mar 14, 2014
equalityboy81 wrote:
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Next right wingers will probably try to amend the full faith and credit clause to fit their discriminatory agenda.
That's what your side is trying to do. Smart move, if it works. I don't think it will.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#17 Mar 14, 2014
equalityboy81 wrote:
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Next right wingers will probably try to amend the full faith and credit clause to fit their discriminatory agenda.
At least they're not acting as dictators like The Obamaniac who is ignoring Congress, ignoring the laws they pass, and simply issuing "Royal Decrees".
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#18 Mar 14, 2014
equalityboy81 wrote:
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1. Well then according to that logic every straight married couple should have to re-new their marriage license and get a new one in each new state they live in.
2. Are you saying that if I marry in Massachusetts and go to California where it is also legal that I need to get re-married in California so I'm considered married in both states?
1. Only if the new state banned straight marriage.
2. That would be up to California.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Mar 14, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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At least they're not acting as dictators like The Obamaniac who is ignoring Congress, ignoring the laws they pass, and simply issuing "Royal Decrees".
We elected him to do that while Congress gently sleeps

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#20 Mar 14, 2014
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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While the "Full Faith and Credit" clause of the U.S. Constitution doesn't apply to marriage LICENSES issued by states, it DOES apply to marriages performed in other states. There are NO exceptions in that clause.
If there were no exceptions, then every state would recognize a married same-sex couple.

They don't.

That's because there has been a long standing public policy exception to the FF&C clause affirmed by the SCOTUS.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#21 Mar 14, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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That's what your side is trying to do. Smart move, if it works. I don't think it will.
Actually every case challenging the marriage bans are based on 14th amendment equal protection & due process, NOT on an FF&C challenge.

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#22 Mar 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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1. Only if the new state banned straight marriage.
2. That would be up to California.
Gay marriage is going to eventually happen nationwide. 20 or more years from now I don't think anyone will be worried about who marries who. There is no legitimate reason to deny gays the right to marry the partner they love. The only thing standing in their way is moral disapproval from people like you. Why do you care who I marry? Why don't you get married and mind your own business?

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#23 Mar 15, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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I disagree. But, as I've said elsewhere, the most a state would have to do to meet that requirement is acknowledge that the gay couple married in another state, they would not have to honor the marriage.
They still get the federal rights of marriage regardless of where they marry and many states marry gays now and you can't do anything to prevent it in those states. What are you going to do when it is legal nationwide, cry about it?

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