Pelosi Refuses to Denounce Hateful Anti-Christian Ad

There are 20 comments on the The Post Chronicle story from Sep 29, 2007, titled Pelosi Refuses to Denounce Hateful Anti-Christian Ad. In it, The Post Chronicle reports that:

The Concerned Women for America broke the story on Tuesday about an anti-Christian promotional advertisement put together by organizers of San Francisco's partially taxpayer funded and Hedonistic Folsom Street ...

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kbsurfer

Los Angeles, CA

#420 Oct 1, 2007
robotech wrote:
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The un-American un-Civil Liberals Union only stands up for people who have demonstrated a willingness to support left-wing causes. They have demonstrated that time and time again.
Yes...they've demonstrated this to people who have no idea what civil liberties are, like those people who call them "The un-American un-Civil Liberals Union".

Your Martyr schtick is getting thin....

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Los Angeles, CA

#421 Oct 1, 2007
ACLU-Tom wrote:
There is no credible account that says that Clinton could have "got bin laden many times". You're just buying into the same right-wing crap that the religious right buys into.
<quoted text>
The same Monday morning QB logic that is being applied to bush doesn't apply to clinton?
Hmmm.
You're sounding like a clinton apologist now.
Bilbo himself said he was sorry he didn't get him.
kbsurfer

Los Angeles, CA

#422 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
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Sandy, drop it already. I'm no longer gay! It is satan's lie that you are born gay. You are born straight but mislead into an evil lifestyle through the influence of others or due to abuse in your childhood. I have a question for you: Where was your father growing up and what kind of person was he, if he was around? You don't have to answer, but just give it some thought. Our father's influence on our lives cannot be discounted - whether good or bad. It will affect us one way or the other.
You're not only Gay, Barry, you're a faggot.

Still looking for Daddy, and you found one called God (it's no coinky-dinky that your God doesn't look like Mommy, huh?)

You will reach a LOT of people, Barry--and they will all be afflicted with your shame and guilt (misery just LOVES company).

Barry, can you grow up a little?
kbsurfer

Los Angeles, CA

#423 Oct 1, 2007
Reese Adams wrote:
You know I shouldnt judge gays,Im sorry Lord.Maybe homosexuals are born that way,and if they are seeking Gods will and still dont have conviction I guess its between them and God.I just pray that they are seeking Gods guidance and not taking a mans word that tells them they can get to heaven as they are.Beware of false prophets for they will burn in hell.
You false prophet.

Pray for yourself.

But do it "in secret in your closet, to the Father who hears ALL things in secret" (guess who said that, Reese?)
kbsurfer

Los Angeles, CA

#424 Oct 1, 2007
Reese Adams wrote:
Barry dont worry about others who condemn you.Im proud of you and your new found walk with christ.Im glad to have you as a christian brother.
<quoted text>
The Blind leading the Blind, and PROUD of it, too!!!!

Christ condemns you.

“Author in search of a niche”

Since: Jul 07

Dallas, TX

#425 Oct 1, 2007
Preacher in Texas wrote:
<quoted text>
Barry doesn't pretend to be straight either. He IS straight. There are hundreds of people who have renounced the works of darkness and come into the light. The love of Christ set them free from the shackles of sin and they are truly liberated now. Don't begrudge someone their freedom (through Christ) from their prison of conscience.
As I said earlier, I rarely debate experience. Barry's experience is he was once gay and now he's not.(I do doubt it!) I think more likely, he (1) was not gay, but bi or (2) he just not acting on his sexual desires.

I have been in the reparative groups and they are FAILURES. I tried it all, and it doesn't work. I was the executive director of one of these groups...and I know what I'm talking about. At best, they can help to control the behavior...but not to change the orientation. What a miserable life that would be!!!(Like teaching a dog to pretend to be a cat...but all the while denying his very nature in the process. Talk about conflict!)

BTW...even those who founded and lead some of these groups are dropping out, admitting they donít work:

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid4842...

http://alifeofunlearning.blogspot.com/

http://www.planetout.com/news/article-print.h...

“Author in search of a niche”

Since: Jul 07

Dallas, TX

#426 Oct 1, 2007
Dan Colgan wrote:
<quoted text>
You've got to be kidding.. God made homosexuals?- Perverse acts are acts against God. You chose to be the way you are. God simply lets you take yourself down ... remember free will?- I only hope I can be standing inside when you and people like you are hit with the reality of your actions
How are you such an expert on my sexual orientation? When did I chose to be gay? When do YOU chose to be straight? Was that free will on your part...or was it recognition of how God made you?

What "reality of your actions" are you hoping for? I'm hoping that my love and relationship will one day be deemed valid and viable...just like yours.

You talk very macho and threatening...but what are you afraid of? Why does my orientation threaten you so much?

“Dyslexics of America: Untie!”

Since: Sep 07

Redmond, WA

#427 Oct 1, 2007
It seems that many right-wing christians have a deep need to feel persecuted. I suppose it gives them a sense of purpose.

“Author in search of a niche”

Since: Jul 07

Dallas, TX

#428 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
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Excellent post! I would add that another reason we Christians and others who are like minded must speak up against this evil lifestyle is because we have a responsibility to protect the children. Not just our own, but all children. This is called community orientation where responsible people look out for the welfare of others. Yes, parents have ultimate responsibility, but they can't be everywhere at once. So, others should help look out for the innocent ones and help them along. The gay society can't reproduce, so they must engage in recruiting through organizations like NAMBLA (North American Man-boy Love Association). But this isn't about love. It's about selfish men getting off on little boys and ruining their lives so they can have a few moments of pleasure. God help us! We are our brother's keeper.
Lies and misrepresentation. How Christian of you!!! NAMBLA is a rouge organization and it's for pedophiles! That argument is so old...but so like the religious fanatics to throw it up as a means to make people afraid. Is that what your faith teaches you---make people afraid by telling lies. Who did Jesus say is the "father of lies" and the source of fear?

At first, I just thought you were sincere in your faith and in your experience and I tried over and over to give you the benefit of the doubt. But I see, you are just like all the rest of the fundies. You will resort to anything to get your message of hate and fear to others...with no regard to the truth and no regard to those you hurt. You are beyond sad...you are scary!!!
kbsurfer

Los Angeles, CA

#429 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
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Beefman, you're not the only one I've heard say that the gay life doesn't affect you since you aren't gay. A lot of straight people will say the same thing. But consider this: John Donne's famous meditation "No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." We are all a part of society and what you do affects others, and likewise what others do affects you. Don't think you won't be harmed by misbehavior of others. It happens everyday. For more evidence of this, look at what's happening in our schools now. The gay life is being taught in some places that it is normal and acceptable to kindergartners! I call that indoctrination! It is harmful and must be stopped. This is nothing more than institutionalized gay recruitment! God help us!
Barry, your response is token passive-aggressive control disorder--you are text-book mentally whacked.

I know it's hard to accept it (since you're trying so hard to understand it), but if you place yourself outside of your mental disorder you might be able to see it: Your desire to be accepted has out-weighed your desire to be true to yourself.

Your desire to be a "label" has out-weighed your desire to be Human.

You are in errancy, missing the mark (sinning).

Barry, you are being called.
Sandy

Georgetown, TX

#430 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post! I would add that another reason we Christians and others who are like minded must speak up against this evil lifestyle is because we have a responsibility to protect the children. Not just our own, but all children. This is called community orientation where responsible people look out for the welfare of others. Yes, parents have ultimate responsibility, but they can't be everywhere at once. So, others should help look out for the innocent ones and help them along. The gay society can't reproduce, so they must engage in recruiting through organizations like NAMBLA (North American Man-boy Love Association). But this isn't about love. It's about selfish men getting off on little boys and ruining their lives so they can have a few moments of pleasure. God help us! We are our brother's keeper.
you agree with her post?
you were recruited by NAMBLA?
Somebody call the social workers...

Being gay is not the same as a pediphile,
and YOU should know that unless.....

How offensive.
NAMBLA members need the death penalty.
Two consenting adults is not the same.
Most pedephiles are straight men.
Most pedephile victems are girls.
ASK THE F.B.I.

You have got some serious problems.
Sandy

Georgetown, TX

#431 Oct 1, 2007
Vincent wrote:
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Can you honestly say that you are sexually attracted to your wife and not attracted to men anymore? Honestly? Sexual attraction is not a switch anyone can just turn to a different setting, and you know it.
he got cured.

“Dyslexics of America: Untie!”

Since: Sep 07

Redmond, WA

#432 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
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Beefman, you're not the only one I've heard say that the gay life doesn't affect you since you aren't gay. A lot of straight people will say the same thing. But consider this: John Donne's famous meditation "No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." We are all a part of society and what you do affects others, and likewise what others do affects you. Don't think you won't be harmed by misbehavior of others. It happens everyday. For more evidence of this, look at what's happening in our schools now. The gay life is being taught in some places that it is normal and acceptable to kindergartners! I call that indoctrination! It is harmful and must be stopped. This is nothing more than institutionalized gay recruitment! God help us!
You gotta be kidding, Barry. Gay people march and celebrate to validate their own sexuality. Are you saying that when you were gay (if you were, really, you still are) you sought out innocent straight people to recruit them to being gay? Why? Sounds extremely corny to me.
Huh

United States

#433 Oct 1, 2007
This ad wasn't "Anti-Christian" -- it was a parody of a famous work of art. And it's been done many times before.

http://images.google.com/images...
Sandy

Georgetown, TX

#434 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
Sandy, drop it already. I'm no longer gay! It is satan's lie that you are born gay. You are born straight but mislead into an evil lifestyle through the influence of others or due to abuse in your childhood. I have a question for you: Where was your father growing up and what kind of person was he, if he was around? You don't have to answer, but just give it some thought. Our father's influence on our lives cannot be discounted - whether good or bad. It will affect us one way or the other.
don't tell me to drop it
and then ask about my
Republican Christian father
that raised me.
Don't reply to ANY of my posts
if you don't want me talking
about your GAYness.

keep telling lies and
God's gonna get mad.

Since: Dec 06

Galesburg, IL

#435 Oct 1, 2007
And the reason that so many people speak out against hate-mongers like you is that we feel a responsibility to create a free society where all are considered equal -- not just fundie straights.

I no longer buy into any of your ex-gay rhetoric. The fact that you suggest a connection between NAMBLA and the gay community tells me that you NEVER identified as gay. That organization has never been an accepted part of the GLBT community, and your even mentioning it tells me that you are just another fundie spouting lies.

If I ever had any interest in christianity as a religion, the fact that so many self-proclaimed christians are simply the most sanctimonious hypocrites I've ever met would deter me from ever embracing that faith.
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent post! I would add that another reason we Christians and others who are like minded must speak up against this evil lifestyle is because we have a responsibility to protect the children. Not just our own, but all children. This is called community orientation where responsible people look out for the welfare of others. Yes, parents have ultimate responsibility, but they can't be everywhere at once. So, others should help look out for the innocent ones and help them along. The gay society can't reproduce, so they must engage in recruiting through organizations like NAMBLA (North American Man-boy Love Association). But this isn't about love. It's about selfish men getting off on little boys and ruining their lives so they can have a few moments of pleasure. God help us! We are our brother's keeper.
Drugs Are Good For You

Franklin, TN

#436 Oct 1, 2007
American wrote:
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Num 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie.
2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Luk 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
1Co 6:15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of a harlot? God forbid.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Lev 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
I did not read a single quote. Do you have an original thought?
Sandy

Georgetown, TX

#437 Oct 1, 2007
Barry wrote:
<quoted text>
Beefman, you're not the only one I've heard say that the gay life doesn't affect you since you aren't gay. A lot of straight people will say the same thing. But consider this: John Donne's famous meditation "No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." We are all a part of society and what you do affects others, and likewise what others do affects you. Don't think you won't be harmed by misbehavior of others. It happens everyday. For more evidence of this, look at what's happening in our schools now. The gay life is being taught in some places that it is normal and acceptable to kindergartners! I call that indoctrination! It is harmful and must be stopped. This is nothing more than institutionalized gay recruitment! God help us!
Teaching tolerance
is not indoctrination
Pervert.
Unlike YOU
these kids will grow up and
only have gay sex, IF THEY'RE GAY.
Since you CLAIM you're not gay
you only had fun gay sex cuase of the devil.
Too funny!

Funnier, is, You are gay, and hate gays.
I am straight and love gays.
OMG Too Funny.

You should only judge people by
if they are jerks or not.
Uh oh:)
Sad

Tamaqua, PA

#438 Oct 1, 2007
The whole thing is sad, witnessing the moral decline of Western Society.

I will no longer be patronizing Miller Brewing company

“College football is here!!”

Since: Sep 07

Thomasville,Ga

#439 Oct 1, 2007
I dont have to defend myself from ppl like you.I just hope one day you will witness the truth before its to late.God bless you,I will pray for you.
kbsurfer wrote:
<quoted text>
You false prophet.
Pray for yourself.
But do it "in secret in your closet, to the Father who hears ALL things in secret" (guess who said that, Reese?)

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