Obama on Spot as Rulings Aid Gay Part...

Obama on Spot as Rulings Aid Gay Partners

There are 500 comments on the www.nytimes.com story from Mar 13, 2009, titled Obama on Spot as Rulings Aid Gay Partners. In it, www.nytimes.com reports that:

Just seven weeks into office, President Obama is being forced to confront one of the most sensitive social and political issues of the day: whether the government must provide health insurance benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.

In separate, strongly worded orders, two judges of the federal appeals court in California said that employees of their court were entitled to health benefits for their same-sex partners under the program that insures millions of federal workers.

But the federal Office of Personnel Management has instructed insurers not to provide the benefits ordered by the judges, citing a 1996 law, the Defense of Marriage Act.

As a presidential candidate, Mr. Obama said he would “fight hard” for the rights of gay couples. As a senator, he sponsored legislation that would have provided health benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.

Now, Mr. Obama is in a tough spot. If he supports the personnel office on denying benefits to the San Francisco court employees, he risks agitating liberal groups that helped him win election. If he supports the judges and challenges the marriage act, he risks alienating Republicans with whom he is seeking to work on economic, health care and numerous other matters.

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“MARRIAGE IS 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN”

Since: Nov 08

Chicago

#470 Mar 20, 2009
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Psst. Then you better stay away from Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Massachusetts.
Not to fear we are on our way there next!

EnochSpeaks

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#471 Mar 20, 2009
Gabarus wrote:
Uhm.. Templar, the "Rules" are that in order to get any STD, you must first be stupid enough to have unprotected sex with a partner who is already infected. That goes for both gay and straight. Most of us have more sense than that.
Right... I still remember when the sale of life insurance was canceled in D.C. due to the AIDS epidemic, which also literally wiped out major gay populations ( ever been to Philadelphia?). Please, this is too important an issue to spin and parse the truth. For your own good.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#472 Mar 20, 2009
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Then why don't they just change the name to NAAAAP?? Or is that name already taken by a hair gel company???
Too obvious a joke, couldn't resist....
Jokes are supposed to be funny. That was just stupid and ignorant

Since: Mar 09

Orleans, Canada

#473 Mar 20, 2009
The Last Templar wrote:
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Right... I still remember when the sale of life insurance was canceled in D.C. due to the AIDS epidemic, which also literally wiped out major gay populations ( ever been to Philadelphia?). Please, this is too important an issue to spin and parse the truth. For your own good.
And this changes the fact that one needs to have sex with an infected partner to be infected.... How?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#474 Mar 20, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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Yes i heard how Hawaii was losing ground for civil unions.
I jumped for joy.
now we must continue to push forward to stop the legalization of gay marriage anywhere in this country.
And by legal I mean ensuring that no gay marriage is recognized by the federal government from any state.
EnochSpeaks
So then you are just lying when you say you would support civil unions. Typical. That's why they legislature in Vermont is in the process of passing marriage equality. Your side has lied one time too many to be believed anymore.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#475 Mar 20, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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Not to fear we are on our way there next!
EnochSpeaks
Too late, the votes are already happening.

“MARRIAGE IS 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN”

Since: Nov 08

Chicago

#476 Mar 20, 2009
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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So then you are just lying when you say you would support civil unions. Typical. That's why they legislature in Vermont is in the process of passing marriage equality. Your side has lied one time too many to be believed anymore.
No more gay trickery!

Hawaii politicians were trying to place same-sex unions in the same status and caterogy as a marriage between a man and a woman!

The people of Hawaii saw right through that charade.

EnochSpeaks

“MARRIAGE IS 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN”

Since: Nov 08

Chicago

#477 Mar 20, 2009
Good Sabbath Everyone.

It is close to lighting the candles.

Peace to all.

EnochSpeaks

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#478 Mar 20, 2009
Don't forget New Jersey, we'll have marriage equality before the end of the year.
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Psst. Then you better stay away from Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, New York, Rhode Island, Connecticut, and Massachusetts.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#479 Mar 20, 2009
Blk and Str8T wrote:
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Look at this narcissistic gay. Of all the things that are at the top of the list this gay dude says equality for all and destroying churches. With all the people losing their jobs and an economy in the toilet all this gay guy can think about is playing house with his boyfriend and destroying churches because it tells the truth of the perverted gay lifestyle.
This is exactly why you gays always lose, your to damn selfish and self indulgent to your own community and not the US community as a whole and the numbers show it.
I can't wait for prop 8 to be upheld and see all the whining on this site and name calling. Then your gonna have to turn right back around and get the votes of the very people you disrespected. Get ready for a lot of hetero(voter) ass kissing (but ya'll gays like that right?)
Ok then, B&S, lets discontinue the the US Govt's 1,138 rights, privileges, and benefits of marriage for all mormons and church people nationwide;
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04353r.pdf
and dissolve their marriages.

Then the church people will have Civil Rights equality with the borngay people.

Fair enough?

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#480 Mar 20, 2009
The Last Templar wrote:
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You will never legislate reality Tony. Never. You really should read some of that... higher cancer rates, AIDS, Hepatitis signatures, etc. Not healthy Tony. I realize you want to make up all the rules to fit your lifestyle, but it doesn't work that way.
You still didn't find anything unhealthy about my marriage. That was a list of nonsense that has nothing to do with me or my husband.

He has diabetes, but he's had that since he was 10, which was obviously pre-puberty, so I don't think he got it from being gay.

Don't give me that "never" crap. The writing is on the wall. We will have marriage equality, the only question is when.

It's a matter of a mathematical formula, really. As more baby boomers and older drop dead, and more of their grandkids reach voting age, the days of inequality are numbered.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#481 Mar 20, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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Then we will battle til the end of time if need be!
EnochSpeaks
You will lose in the next 10 to 30 years tops.

Just like the racists lost. Funny how you're in the same boat.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#482 Mar 20, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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Yes i heard how Hawaii was losing ground for civil unions.
I jumped for joy.
now we must continue to push forward to stop the legalization of gay marriage anywhere in this country.
And by legal I mean ensuring that no gay marriage is recognized by the federal government from any state.
EnochSpeaks
You are doomed to failure.

You're also a hateful scumbag, and you're wasting your life.

Now go play in traffic so I can jump for joy.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#483 Mar 20, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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Not to fear we are on our way there next!
EnochSpeaks
LOL!! The northeast doesn't put up with that nonsense.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#484 Mar 20, 2009
The Last Templar wrote:
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Right... I still remember when the sale of life insurance was canceled in D.C. due to the AIDS epidemic, which also literally wiped out major gay populations ( ever been to Philadelphia?). Please, this is too important an issue to spin and parse the truth. For your own good.
You have a greater chance of catching any STD than I.

“"Beau-Se'ant”

Since: Jan 09

Manchester

#486 Mar 21, 2009
Tony C wrote:
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You have a greater chance of catching any STD than I.
Really, how do you figure that? Describe it, really. Show the medical community's position on that, as I have. And base it on monogamy with the same woman for my entire (long) life.
You are whizzin in the wind.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#487 Mar 21, 2009
ACLU-Tom wrote:
Don't forget New Jersey, we'll have marriage equality before the end of the year.
<quoted text>
I'm not so sure of that anymore. Sounds they they won't act on that until after the election this fall. Will Corzine survive re-election?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#488 Mar 21, 2009
EnochSpeaks wrote:
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No more gay trickery!
Hawaii politicians were trying to place same-sex unions in the same status and caterogy as a marriage between a man and a woman!
The people of Hawaii saw right through that charade.
EnochSpeaks
Oh yes, it was those crafty gays trying to sneak legislation in!

So answer the question- do you support civil unions, or are you just lying as usual?

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#490 Mar 21, 2009
The Last Templar wrote:
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Really, how do you figure that? Describe it, really. Show the medical community's position on that, as I have. And base it on monogamy with the same woman for my entire (long) life.
You are whizzin in the wind.
I'm married and monogamous. Period.

I know with 100% certainty I have not ever cheated and never will.

I know in my heart my husband never has and never will, either.

But I don't trust you as a straight man, frankly. You guys are notorious for getting a little on the side.

“Queer love is here to stay.”

Since: May 07

Los Angeles

#491 Mar 21, 2009
Daniel P from Long Island wrote:
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IGNORE the hate-filled, bigoted, old black jew. He will burn in Hell for Eternity and he knows it because he denies that Jesus Of Nazareth is the Christ.
PEACE !
:)
Is no one else willing to tell this bigot that his hatred is as evil as the homophobes? Is this a Xtians only posting board? Is racism tolerable when it comes from a gay man?

If it was the least bit unclear, I also deny that Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah or that I willburn in his imaginary Hell because of my opinions.

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