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Utah's New Attorney General Promises to Defend Gay Marriage Ban

There are 38 comments on the EDGE story from Dec 31, 2013, titled Utah's New Attorney General Promises to Defend Gay Marriage Ban. In it, EDGE reports that:

Utah is the latest state to grant same-sex couples marriage licenses, but the state's new attorney general, who was just sworn into office on Monday, has already vowed to defend a ban prohibiting same-sex marriage.

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“Common courtesy, isn't”

Since: Nov 07

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#1 Dec 31, 2013
Careful of that slippery slope, Utah! And no, I'm not talking about the big one up near Park City.

If SCOTUS won't stay Shelby's ruling, won't district judges in other states follow in your ski tracks? I'm thinking you might want to re-consider the course you're on! <grin>
Rainbow Nielsen

Alpharetta, GA

#2 Dec 31, 2013
So the new attorney general is hiring MONTE STEWART as the private attorney to defend Utah's 2004 marriage amendment
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Monte Stewart is one of the AUTHORS of Utah's 2004 anti-gay marriage amendment; so now he is being paid $2million more to defend it
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WHAT a racket!
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From NOM EXPOSED:
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Former president Maggie Gallagher sits on the board of the Marriage Law Foundation, a Utah-based legal group with ties to both Mormons and a shadowy campaign committee used in Utah's 2004 marriage amendment fight against same-sex marriage. William Duncan and Monte Stewart, the founders of the Marriage Law Foundation, are both Mormon. In fact Stewart was formerly a Mormon stake president in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Stewart and Duncan previously co-chaired Utahns for a Better Tomorrow (UBT), a committee that supported the 2004 Utah amendment against same-sex marriage. Substantial donations were funneled to UBT through a shadowy nonprofit named Marriage Education Initiatives that was formed just two weeks before the election. A complaint was filed with the Utah Attorney General alleging malfeasance, but nothing ever came of the investigation.
http://www.hrc.org/nomexposed/section/religio...
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So we're in for more some more sleazy political manipulation from the mormonizers

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#3 Dec 31, 2013
Rainbow Nielsen wrote:
So the new attorney general is hiring MONTE STEWART as the private attorney to defend Utah's 2004 marriage amendment
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Monte Stewart is one of the AUTHORS of Utah's 2004 anti-gay marriage amendment; so now he is being paid $2million more to defend it
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WHAT a racket!
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From NOM EXPOSED:
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Former president Maggie Gallagher sits on the board of the Marriage Law Foundation, a Utah-based legal group with ties to both Mormons and a shadowy campaign committee used in Utah's 2004 marriage amendment fight against same-sex marriage. William Duncan and Monte Stewart, the founders of the Marriage Law Foundation, are both Mormon. In fact Stewart was formerly a Mormon stake president in Atlanta, Georgia.
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Stewart and Duncan previously co-chaired Utahns for a Better Tomorrow (UBT), a committee that supported the 2004 Utah amendment against same-sex marriage. Substantial donations were funneled to UBT through a shadowy nonprofit named Marriage Education Initiatives that was formed just two weeks before the election. A complaint was filed with the Utah Attorney General alleging malfeasance, but nothing ever came of the investigation.
http://www.hrc.org/nomexposed/section/religio...
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So we're in for more some more sleazy political manipulation from the mormonizers
I DON'T believe that the State of Utah will prevail, nor will they get their precious Stay......but we will certainly let them lose money on a fight they KNOW they CAN'T win......all they have to do is ask Cooper or Clements......but they won't.....sucks to be them!!!
Rainbow Nielsen

Alpharetta, GA

#4 Dec 31, 2013
John Swallow and Sean Reyes were opponents in a nasty Utah Attorney General race in last years election
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The voters elected John Swallow to the ratio of 69-32; but the power moguls drummed John Swallow out of office and swore in Sean Reyes in spite of the public vote
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So now these same crooked politicians who OVERRODE the 69-32 public vote for the attorney general are spending two million dollars to PROTECT the public's 66-33 vote against gay marriage; almost the same ratio as John Swallow's win
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The pattern of political malfeasance is obvious. The US Justice Department needs to take control of politicians-gone-wild in UTAH
Rainbow Kid with the News

Alpharetta, GA

#5 Dec 31, 2013
UTAH's request for a stay has been submitted to the Supreme Court
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-...
Rainbow Kid with the News

Alpharetta, GA

#6 Dec 31, 2013
Here is a hooty little New Yorker essay about UTAH's Gay Marriage 11-day 'Emergency' authored by Richard Socarides:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdes...
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#8 Dec 31, 2013
His tie is color coordinated with the diarrhea coming out of his mouth.

Thus, closet case?

Since: Mar 09

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#9 Dec 31, 2013
Otter in the Ozarks wrote:
Careful of that slippery slope, Utah! And no, I'm not talking about the big one up near Park City.
If SCOTUS won't stay Shelby's ruling, won't district judges in other states follow in your ski tracks? I'm thinking you might want to re-consider the course you're on! <grin>
On what grounds would the SCotUS deny Cert.?
Rainbow Kid with the News

Alpharetta, GA

#10 Dec 31, 2013
Here is the PDF of the stay request as submitted to Justice Sotomayor
http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/Was...
Rainbow Kid with the News

Alpharetta, GA

#11 Dec 31, 2013
54 minutes after the stay request is submitted; Sotomayor tells challengers to Utah's law to respond by Friday.
Rainbow Kid with the News

Alpharetta, GA

#12 Dec 31, 2013
Here is the news update from the Supreme Court
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Utah seeks delay of same-sex marriages
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UPDATE 5:14 p.m. Justice Sonia Sotomayor has asked for a response to the Utah application; it is due by noon on Friday. There thus will be no action on this pending that filing.
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Full article:
http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/12/utah-seeks-...

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#14 Dec 31, 2013
Rainbow Nielsen wrote:
John Swallow and Sean Reyes were opponents in a nasty Utah Attorney General race in last years election
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The voters elected John Swallow to the ratio of 69-32; but the power moguls drummed John Swallow out of office and swore in Sean Reyes in spite of the public vote
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So now these same crooked politicians who OVERRODE the 69-32 public vote for the attorney general are spending two million dollars to PROTECT the public's 66-33 vote against gay marriage; almost the same ratio as John Swallow's win
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The pattern of political malfeasance is obvious. The US Justice Department needs to take control of politicians-gone-wild in UTAH
And this is the same group running to court screaming about the "will of the people"?

LMAO

OH BTW in 2014 everytime someone starts in on polygamy let's just hand themn back "the will of the people" and remind them that Utah AGREED to banning polygamy in exchange for Statehood!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 Dec 31, 2013
Norton wrote:
I applaud Attorney General Sean Reyes!
Thank you sir!
Norton; spread the news to your whimpering homophobic friends
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Moldova is becoming the 51st state
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/opinion/mol...
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Gay marriage is included in the deal! Aren't you thrilled?
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USA can use the State of Moldova as a staging area for conquering Romania; the Jewel of Eastern Europe!

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#16 Dec 31, 2013
Norton wrote:
I applaud Attorney General Sean Reyes!
Thank you sir!
West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette 1943
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" ... No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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- Alexander Hamilton; Federalist No. 78
(My thanks to Snyper for his additions to my original of this)

Since: Mar 07

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#17 Dec 31, 2013
I love how one of the arguments in requesting a stay was about the perils of non-biological parents raising kids. This is particularly amusing since there is no such rational argument against straight couples blending families, adopting, and using all forms of assistance to have children.

Why is that? Is there some legal reason to have separate standards for gay and straight couples?

And they wonder why this didn't fly?
Christsharia Law

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Dec 31, 2013
snyper wrote:
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On what grounds would the SCotUS deny Cert.?
The correct question is, "On what grounds would she accept?"
Pierre

France

#20 Dec 31, 2013
Norton wrote:
I applaud Attorney General Sean Reyes!
Thank you sir!
Yes, it's refreshing to see someone taking the side of decency and fighting for the good people of Utah.

Since: Mar 09

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#21 Dec 31, 2013
Rainbow Kid with the News wrote:
Here is the PDF of the stay request as submitted to Justice Sotomayor
http://www.washingtonpost.com/r/2010-2019/Was...
They're citing Allen, Marks and Regnerus !

Now you know why our opposition funded funded Marks and Regenerus.

These people are despicable.

Since: Mar 09

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#22 Dec 31, 2013
Christsharia Law wrote:
<quoted text>
The correct question is, "On what grounds would she accept?"
All Petitions for Cert. assert the same categories of things. It's granted if it looks like the following arguments may be valid.

This is our side's change to really slam the Marks and Regnerus pieces, and get the dirty dealings surrounding them in the official historical record. They weren't introduced in the PropH8 and Windsor Cases. Anyone who can, donate money to our Case so they have the money to do the rebuttals right.

Easier to determine are the reasons why Cert. may not be granted.

Any ideas?

Since: Mar 07

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#23 Dec 31, 2013
Pierre wrote:
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You can't compare normal real parents to homosexual .........
Gay parents are as likely to be wonderful parents as straight folks - that's not an issue.

Why pretend otherwise? It's not like anyone with sense will believe you.

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