Paul Ryan promises hate group that he'll fight equality

Oct 9, 2012 Full story: www.wisconsingazette.com 5,438

In a recent interview with Focus on the Family president Jim Daly, Paul Ryan reassured the anti-gay hate group that a Romney-Ryan administration will fiercely oppose gay rights.

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Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#183 Oct 12, 2012
Jupiter wrote:
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I don't agree, but even if that were true, homosexuality doesn't stop anyone from leading a life that is that same as anyone else's, except for the fact that they can't get married. It's still no basis for discrimination.
If that were true it would be great. There is a public school in Lexington, MA that sent first and second grade kids home with books like "Who's In A Family" and "King & King." Some families were upset that they couldn't opt their kids out of that material. The school principal told complaining parents that an opt out was no longer required now that gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts. The only way that they could avoid having their kids exposed to gay material was to pay to send them to private schools. They opposed the material because of their religions. Religious freedom without government interference is guaranteed by the first ammendment of the constitution, unless gays want to indoctrinate your kids. Then you have no constitutional right to religious freedom.

I also don't think you are being discriminated against. Most states and the federal government have laws that require marriage to be between opposite sex couples. You also have the option of living together and staying single. That is the same as it is for everyone.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#184 Oct 12, 2012
You should have more respect for your mother.
NoQ wrote:
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But then what do you expect from an old dried up back alley crack whor:e
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#185 Oct 12, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Homosexuality was removed from the DSM ultimately because it does not meet the criteria for mental illness.
Gays had it removed. The APA replaced it in the DSM with ego-dystonic homosexuality in 1980 and then it was watered down even further to 'sexual disorders not otherwise specified.' While it may not technically be a "mental illness" it does hold varying degrees of stigma for homosexuals and that is a psychological problem/disorder.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#186 Oct 12, 2012
So he's got the crackhead, obscure starlet, and violent moron votes? Classy!

Who the hell considers lohan's support a plus?
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
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Even Hollywood is now splitting the vote for Romney.
"Lindsay Lohan has joined the likes of Stacey Dash and Hulk Hogan by telling the press she's voting for Mitt Romney."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/lind...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#187 Oct 12, 2012
Homosexuality is not a flaw, and being just like everyone else is the antithesis of a free society.
Wondering wrote:
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Homosexuality is the flaw. If not for that you would be just like everyone else.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#188 Oct 12, 2012
Wrong. First of all, idiot, a birth defect is "a physical or biochemical defect (as cleft palate, phenylketonuria, or Down syndrome) that is present at birth and may be inherited or environmentally induced". Secondly, homosexuality is not a defect.
Wondering wrote:
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If sexual preference is inherent then homosexuality is a birth defect.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#189 Oct 12, 2012
Public schools are not subject to changing their curriculum based on someone's religious beliefs. They are for ALL kids, and the schools should teach about all aspects of life.
There is nothing wrong with teaching about legal activities.

They were right--if you want a school that discriminates, you can pay for the privilege of attending it. You don't get to tell other parents what THEIR kids will learn.
Wondering wrote:
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If that were true it would be great. There is a public school in Lexington, MA that sent first and second grade kids home with books like "Who's In A Family" and "King & King." Some families were upset that they couldn't opt their kids out of that material. The school principal told complaining parents that an opt out was no longer required now that gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts. The only way that they could avoid having their kids exposed to gay material was to pay to send them to private schools. They opposed the material because of their religions. Religious freedom without government interference is guaranteed by the first ammendment of the constitution, unless gays want to indoctrinate your kids. Then you have no constitutional right to religious freedom.
I also don't think you are being discriminated against. Most states and the federal government have laws that require marriage to be between opposite sex couples. You also have the option of living together and staying single. That is the same as it is for everyone.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#190 Oct 12, 2012
Homosexuality does not hold a stigma; certain portions of society stigmatize it. We do not appease bigots so they feel better about themselves.
Wondering wrote:
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Gays had it removed. The APA replaced it in the DSM with ego-dystonic homosexuality in 1980 and then it was watered down even further to 'sexual disorders not otherwise specified.' While it may not technically be a "mental illness" it does hold varying degrees of stigma for homosexuals and that is a psychological problem/disorder.
TheTroll Stopper

Roanoke, VA

#191 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Gays had it removed.
Hearsay. Dismissed. NEXT!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#192 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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If that were true it would be great. There is a public school in Lexington, MA that sent first and second grade kids home with books like "Who's In A Family" and "King & King." Some families were upset that they couldn't opt their kids out of that material. The school principal told complaining parents that an opt out was no longer required now that gay marriage is legal in Massachusetts. The only way that they could avoid having their kids exposed to gay material was to pay to send them to private schools. They opposed the material because of their religions. Religious freedom without government interference is guaranteed by the first ammendment of the constitution, unless gays want to indoctrinate your kids. Then you have no constitutional right to religious freedom.
I also don't think you are being discriminated against. Most states and the federal government have laws that require marriage to be between opposite sex couples. You also have the option of living together and staying single. That is the same as it is for everyone.
In my elementary school, we learned about all manner of world cultures. We learned about polygamy, too. It didn't seem to harm anyone to learn that some men have many wives.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#193 Oct 12, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Wrong. First of all, idiot, a birth defect is "a physical or biochemical defect (as cleft palate, phenylketonuria, or Down syndrome) that is present at birth and may be inherited or environmentally induced". Secondly, homosexuality is not a defect.
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If homosexuality were the status quo it would guarantee the end of the human race and you claim that isn't a defect? Ok, believe what you will.
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#194 Oct 12, 2012
cpeter1313 wrote:
Public schools are not subject to changing their curriculum based on someone's religious beliefs.
Nor should they be used to misinform elementary school children about homosexuality and homosexual relationships.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#195 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Nor should they be used to misinform elementary school children about homosexuality and homosexual relationships.
Schools teach kids that bigotry is evil....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#196 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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If sexual preference is inherent then homosexuality is a birth defect.
No more than being left-handed is a birth defect.

There is nothing defective about homosexuals or left-handed people. We are fully functioning humans.

Comments like yours are what makes you a bigot. But then we all knew that already.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#197 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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If homosexuality were the status quo it would guarantee the end of the human race and you claim that isn't a defect? Ok, believe what you will.
Hardly. If everyone were homosexuals we'd simply get all the lesbians & gay men together once a year and create a bunch of babies.

It's not that difficult; even heteros can do it.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#198 Oct 12, 2012
Wondering wrote:
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Nor should they be used to misinform elementary school children about homosexuality and homosexual relationships.
The courts disagreed, all the way to the SCOTUS.

Poor little religious bigots got bitch slapped again.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#205 Oct 12, 2012
If it were the status quo, being male would doom the human race. So being male is a defect?

BTW--we have many wondrous means of reproduction that don't require opposite-sex copulation.
Wondering wrote:
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If homosexuality were the status quo it would guarantee the end of the human race and you claim that isn't a defect? Ok, believe what you will.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#206 Oct 12, 2012
You;re right, which is why they don't spread the anti-gay lies you prefer to push on them.
Wondering wrote:
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Nor should they be used to misinform elementary school children about homosexuality and homosexual relationships.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#207 Oct 12, 2012
Wndering wrote:
What "scientific evidence?"
Given how many times that question has been asked and answered and asked and answered and asked answered on these forums, it's no longer our fault that you haven't been taking notes. Look up the evidence that was available to them when this change was made yourself. There were a number of studies that proved that being homosexual did not fit the definition of having a mental illness.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#209 Oct 12, 2012
luv Sarah Palin wrote:
Even Hollywood is now splitting the vote for Romney.
"Lindsay Lohan has joined the likes of Stacey Dash and Hulk Hogan by telling the press she's voting for Mitt Romney."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/12/lind...
2 out of 3 Romney supporters can't be wrong, drugs help. What's a Stacey Dash anyways and does she make it 3 out of 3? Why do you imagine this matters? Hasn't the realization that you are getting four more years, even though you aren't going to enjoy them, set in yet?

http://electoral-vote.com/
Mittens has had an uptick, but look at the map, he's still seriously f'd.

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