Paul Ryan promises hate group that he'll fight equality

[OH NO You Did not]

cpeter1313 wrote:

Polls show that just over half of the population supports SSM, and it increases every year. This past election included 4 SSM initiatives and they all passed in our favor. Sorry, but marriage is going to be the standard, not some trumped-up alternative.
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Sweetheart, Huffpo said it was 3, not 4.

[Wondering]

cpeter1313 wrote:

Polls show that just over half of the population supports SSM, and it increases every year.
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Those polls were taken in gay bars. They didn't ask if people think two guys or two women having sex together was normal. They asked about equal rights. I maintain that you have equal rights. The same rules apply to everyone. Stop trying to brainwash other people's kids and I wouldn't care what you did.

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OH NO You Did not wrote:

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I would be asking the same of you as many of the liberal posts seem to be me-oriented and extremely hateful.

On any opinion forum, people usually post about things that affect themselves, and those the care about.

How is that 'Liberal"?

And you REALLY don't see the hateful anti-gay posts?

Selective amnesia, I suspect.

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OH NO You Did not wrote:

<quoted text> So you like no sanctity in marriage and dead people? I rather treat all people with honor and which appears you do not. Do you hate so much because you were not protected as a child? I mean you keep posting "Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?" like it is your mantra what you believe for yourself? Why do you believe that you are a moron? Hum?

You seem to be missing the point.

One of the biggest red herrings used by people who fear and dislike gay folks is that we are someone harmful to children. That even the knowledge that gay folks exist will damage children in some strange and mysterious way.

And of course, it's not true.

You can't tell us you haven't seen that again and again on these forums? And that, living in CA, you didn't see it over and over on TV during the Prop 8 struggle?

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Wondering wrote:

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Those polls were taken in gay bars........

Lol. Denial is not just a river in Egypt ...

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OH NO You Did not wrote:

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Looks like it is losing big time at about 18% even with the new states added in to prop it up. So I think they would be more conciliatory to the rest of the public and their desires to allow for civil partnerships as part of the vernacular.

Don't see a trend, do you?

There is no logical reason to call some marriages something else to be conciliatory to anyone unaffected by those marriages.

What idiot would accept that?

[snyper]

Wondering wrote:

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But with the right help, she can improve.

Yeah. The State can boot your butternut arse back below the bibblebelt.

[cpeter1313]

There is no sanctity in civil marriage, idiot. Sanctity is a purely religious concept; this secular government has no element of sanctity.

"I rather treat all people with honor ..." You pathetic hypocrite.

OH NO You Did not wrote:

<quoted text> So you like no sanctity in marriage and dead people? I rather treat all people with honor and which appears you do not. Do you hate so much because you were not protected as a child? I mean you keep posting "Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?" like it is your mantra what you believe for yourself? Why do you believe that you are a moron? Hum?

[cpeter1313]

We added three states--this time by popular vote--and we are LOSING? Did you just not attend school at all? Stop huffing the gold paint.

Where is this great throng that wants civil partnerships--I mean, outside your local trailer park? Polls show that just over half of the population approves of SSM.

OH NO You Did not wrote:

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From Hollywood and LA, but not from most of the rest of the country. Only bastions of liberalism support gay marriage like the gay activists want it.
Only 3 democrat or blue states vote for it and it was defeated in another state.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/elec...
"Though same-gender marriage has already been legal in six states and the District of Columbia through legislation or court rulings, voters have repeatedly rejected same-sex marriage at the ballot box.
Voting on Tuesday (Nov. 6) brings the total number of states that allow gay marriage to nine, in addition to the three states that recognize marriages between two men or two women performed outside state lines."
Looks like it is losing big time at about 18% even with the new states added in to prop it up. So I think they would be more conciliatory to the rest of the public and their desires to allow for civil partnerships as part of the vernacular.

[cpeter1313]

Monkeynipples, I said 4 SSM initiatives, not laws. ME, MD, and NC all voted to allow SSM. MN voted DOWN a state amendment that would ban SSM. Words have meanings; learn them.

OH NO You Did not wrote:

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Sweetheart, Huffpo said it was 3, not 4.

[cpeter1313]

The argument concerns equal rights, not whether or not people view other peoples' sex lives as normal. Scatophilic furries with bondage issues can get married.

I maintain you have no clue what equal rights mean. And tell the christians to stop brainwashing kids.

Wondering wrote:

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Those polls were taken in gay bars. They didn't ask if people think two guys or two women having sex together was normal. They asked about equal rights. I maintain that you have equal rights. The same rules apply to everyone. Stop trying to brainwash other people's kids and I wouldn't care what you did.

[Mona Lott]

cpeter1313 wrote:

Monkeynipples, I said 4 SSM initiatives, not laws. ME, MD, and NC all voted to allow SSM. MN voted DOWN a state amendment that would ban SSM. Words have meanings; learn them.
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Thank you. OH NO is an idiot.

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cpeter1313 wrote:

The argument concerns equal rights, not whether or not people view other peoples' sex lives as normal. Scatophilic furries with bondage issues can get married.
I maintain you have no clue what equal rights mean. And tell the christians to stop brainwashing kids.
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When Christians brainwash kids, the kids are theirs and it's their choice.
When public elementary schools do it, the kids aren't theirs and there is no choice.

[ToManyLaws]

Wondering wrote:

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When Christians brainwash kids, the kids are theirs and it's their choice.
When public elementary schools do it, the kids aren't theirs and there is no choice.

When christians brainwash kids the put hate and bigotry and racism into there innosent minds. When schools TEACH they are taking out that hate and racism and bigotry.

[snyper]

cpeter1313 wrote:

There is no sanctity in civil marriage, idiot. Sanctity is a purely religious concept; this secular government has no element of sanctity.
"I rather treat all people with honor ..." You pathetic hypocrite.
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exactly

(that "sanctity" really needs to be between quotation marks)

[snyper]

Wondering wrote:

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When Christians brainwash kids, the kids are theirs and it's their choice.
When public elementary schools do it, the kids aren't theirs and there is no choice.

Tell that to all the Jewish students for the past centuries.

Recommend to parents that they take a page from Jewish parents, and RC parents who sent their kids to school on Fridays with tuna sandwiches in their lunchboxes.

(and who just didn't divorce even though the Law allowed them to)

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Wondering wrote:

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When Christians brainwash kids, the kids are theirs and it's their choice.
When public elementary schools do it, the kids aren't theirs and there is no choice.

You believe parents OWN their children? Scary.

[Wondering]

snyper wrote:

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Tell that to all the Jewish students for the past centuries.
Recommend to parents that they take a page from Jewish parents, and RC parents who sent their kids to school on Fridays with tuna sandwiches in their lunchboxes.
(and who just didn't divorce even though the Law allowed them to)

Your point?

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ToManyLaws wrote:

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When christians brainwash kids the put hate and bigotry and racism into there innosent minds. When schools TEACH they are taking out that hate and racism and bigotry.

I'm for choice, you're not. I'm for an opt out, you're not.

[ToManyLaws]

Wondering wrote:

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I'm for choice, you're not. I'm for an opt out, you're not.

I am all for choice. Raise yoru kids anyway youw ant at home. But of they want to be part of society they need to follow social rules. HATE AND BIGOTRY LIKE YOURS IS UNAMERICAN AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL......Soprry but your side is losing on this issue. RACISM AND BIGOTRY AND HATE ARE EVIL AND VILE....LIKE YOU.