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Court Rejects Challenge To Law Banning Gay Therapy

There are 27 comments on the National Public Radio story from Jun 30, 2014, titled Court Rejects Challenge To Law Banning Gay Therapy. In it, National Public Radio reports that:

The Supreme Court has rejected a challenge to California's law that bars mental counseling aimed at turning gay minors straight.

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“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#1 Jun 30, 2014
So the anti-gays lose again!
Cordwainer Trout

Campbellsville, KY

#2 Jun 30, 2014
The combo of homosexual deviance and Marxist governmental policy realizes another push forward with their jointly agreed fundamental dialectic that destroying the rights of parents and families is a necessary push to Utopia. Joining the political push with a stool push is something they've worked at since the 1970s.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The combo of homosexual deviance and Marxist governmental policy realizes another push forward with their jointly agreed fundamental dialectic that destroying the rights of parents and families is a necessary push to Utopia. Joining the political push with a stool push is something they've worked at since the 1970s.
You're just worried incest will be banned in Kentucky, and then you'll have to divorce your sister.
Jethrine Trout

San Francisco, CA

#4 Jun 30, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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You're just worried incest will be banned in Kentucky, and then you'll have to divorce your sister.
He ain't too worried cuz he still got our other sisters and Mama and I know he makes do with Grandma in a pinch or after too much moonshine. I'm so glad I runned away.

It sure was nice to find out people in Callyfornya don't think sex with your family is normal. Even better surprise was learnin' most men's dicks are a lot bigger than 3 inches.
Rev Donald Wildmoan

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The combo of homosexual deviance and Marxist governmental policy....with a stool push
Uh oh, Cordwainer Taint just ejaculated on his wireless keyboard again.

New batteries!
Rev Donald Wildmoan

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jun 30, 2014
After that Hobby Lobby decision I'm a little surprised they rejected the challenge.

But the talibangelicals can still have clergy or those without any sort of health care licensing continue with the reparations [sic] therapy mind fking.
Gremlin

Louisville, KY

#7 Jun 30, 2014
Will the homophobes ever grow enough brain cells to realize that a person's sexual orientation CANNOT be changed?

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#9 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The combo of homosexual deviance and Marxist governmental policy realizes another push forward with their jointly agreed fundamental dialectic that destroying the rights of parents and families is a necessary push to Utopia. Joining the political push with a stool push is something they've worked at since the 1970s.
Tell it to Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz. Parents don't OWN their children, and they can't just do whatever hairbrained, harmful thing that they WANT to them. Grown-ups can waste their own money and efforts on "psychological therapy" given by untrained pastors in church basements. Children should not be put in the hands of such frauds.
Cordwainer Trout

Campbellsville, KY

#10 Jun 30, 2014
EdmondWA wrote:
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Tell it to Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz. Parents don't OWN their children, and they can't just do whatever hairbrained, harmful thing that they WANT to them. Grown-ups can waste their own money and efforts on "psychological therapy" given by untrained pastors in church basements. Children should not be put in the hands of such frauds.
If you don't want these budding deviants you've molested and confused having psychological help, how about exorcism?

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#11 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
If you don't want these budding deviants you've molested and confused having psychological help, how about exorcism?
Why, did it work for you?

I haven't molested anyone, and no one molested me. If you've got some unresolved pain about being molested, then you need to discuss that with your own psychologist. Don't project your problems onto everyone else.

There is no difference between the phony-baloney "therapy" practiced by these charlatans, and the phony-baloney theater of exorcisms.

There is a HUGE difference between the science-based psychology espoused by such reputable organizations as the APA, and the non-scientific mumbo-jumbo pushed by these collection-plate-funded bigots.

Which part of conversion therapy do you think works the best? Cuddle therapy? Naked group sessions? Beating a pillow with a tennis racquet? Did you have a hand in inventing any of these "therapies"? If not, do you think you would have come up with any of these on your own?

If ANYONE wants psychotherapy, gay or straight, molested or not, there are plenty of REAL psychologists out there capable of providing proven methods. But it's unethical in the extreme to just allow any scripture-pusher with access to the church conference room to PRETEND to be doctors and inflict harm on the gullible people who trust them.
Homostats

Las Vegas, NV

#12 Jun 30, 2014
The homosexuals have always justified homosexuality by explaining that human sexuality is a spectrum, not digital, as in either/or. They claim that there is a little homosexuality in everyone.
By the same argument, then wouldn't there then be some heterosexuality in everyone?
But when it comes to reparative therapy, they then argue that homosexuality is an absolute, and that therapy can only be harmful.
If human sexuality truly is a spread spectrum, there surely would be many youths who are are at the center of the spectrum, as in questioning, and who would benefit from a gentle nudge in the direction of normalcy.
It is interesting that if a youth who is questioning, exercises his right of free will to seek treatment, rather than wishing the best for him, the homosexuals vilify him and brand him as a turncoat.

“Unconvinced”

Since: Nov 09

Seattle, WA

#13 Jun 30, 2014
Homostats wrote:
The homosexuals have always justified homosexuality by explaining that human sexuality is a spectrum, not digital, as in either/or. They claim that there is a little homosexuality in everyone.
That's an oversimplification (no matter who says it).

Some people are purely homosexual, and some people are purely heterosexual. But there are many people in the middle who are bisexual.
Homostats wrote:
By the same argument, then wouldn't there then be some heterosexuality in everyone?
But when it comes to reparative therapy, they then argue that homosexuality is an absolute, and that therapy can only be harmful.
No, we argue that sexual orientation can't be switched and shifted around at will. Whatever you are, you are.

And this "therapy" has been PROVEN to be harmful. We don't just CALL it "harmful" because we don't like its goals. It produces feelings of shame and personal failure in the subjec when the "therapy" fails to do what it (over)promises.
Homostats wrote:
If human sexuality truly is a spread spectrum, there surely would be many youths who are are at the center of the spectrum, as in questioning, and who would benefit from a gentle nudge in the direction of normalcy.
Being bisexual does not mean that you are "questioning". If a person is bisexual, then they have attraction toward both (or either) gender. They can't stop themselves from being bisexual by simply "questioning" it, as if pondering deep questions will convince them to stop feeling attracted toward one gender.

The word "questioning" is used to describe someone who doesn't yet understand their non-mainstream orientation, and hasn't yet come to terms with it. Eventually they will realize the degree to which they are different from their peers, and they will stop questioning.

But even if a bisexual person decides to never pursue their same-sex desires, and live only as a heterosexual, that does not mean that they've stopped being bisexual, or that their same-sex desires have gone away. All the questioning in the world won't do that.
Homostats wrote:
It is interesting that if a youth who is questioning, exercises his right of free will to seek treatment, rather than wishing the best for him, the homosexuals vilify him and brand him as a turncoat.
People can "question" all they want without needing treatment to do it. But what they get from the people who push these "therapies" is NOT treatment. It is misguided, unsupported, and unscientific meddling which amounts to practicing medicine without a license. If someone seeks ACTUAL treatment, then they should pursue a course of treatment that is supported and endorsed by groups like the APA and the AMA.

No one should be free to espouse psychological practices which are condemned by every reputable medical and scientific body on the planet, and they certainly shouldn't be free to inflict this quackery onto minors (under the auspices of "right of free will" no less). I would never brand a minor as a "turncoat" for being put into these unfortunate positions by their ignorant parents.
Here Kitty Kitty

Alpharetta, GA

#14 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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If you don't want these budding deviants you've molested and confused having psychological help, how about exorcism?
With this new Supreme Court ruling; religious criminals who practice 'ex-gay' quackery get fed to the lions
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'exorcism' elevates it to a hate crime; so they get fed to the lions with extra sauce
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#15 Jun 30, 2014
Homostats wrote:
The homosexuals have always justified homosexuality by explaining that human sexuality is a spectrum, not digital, as in either/or. They claim that there is a little homosexuality in everyone.
By the same argument, then wouldn't there then be some heterosexuality in everyone?
But when it comes to reparative therapy, they then argue that homosexuality is an absolute, and that therapy can only be harmful.
If human sexuality truly is a spread spectrum, there surely would be many youths who are are at the center of the spectrum, as in questioning, and who would benefit from a gentle nudge in the direction of normalcy.
It is interesting that if a youth who is questioning, exercises his right of free will to seek treatment, rather than wishing the best for him, the homosexuals vilify him and brand him as a turncoat.
You're talking about bisexual people (attracted to both sexes)
.
GAYS and STRAIGHTS are MONOSEXUAL; not bisexual
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...

Since: Aug 11

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#16 Jun 30, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
The combo of homosexual deviance and Marxist governmental policy realizes another push forward with their jointly agreed fundamental dialectic that destroying the rights of parents and families is a necessary push to Utopia. Joining the political push with a stool push is something they've worked at since the 1970s.
Will you please stop sniveling.

Since: Aug 11

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#17 Jun 30, 2014
Here Kitty Kitty wrote:
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With this new Supreme Court ruling; religious criminals who practice 'ex-gay' quackery get fed to the lions
.
'exorcism' elevates it to a hate crime; so they get fed to the lions with extra sauce
Please. You should feed the lions good food rather than venomous snakes.
Here Kitty Kitty

Alpharetta, GA

#18 Jun 30, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Please. You should feed the lions good food rather than venomous snakes.
Sometimes ya gotta eat what ya gotta eat
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZDKEyB3pbn0/UovSdQT... !!!!!!!!!!lion.jpg

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#19 Jun 30, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Please. You should feed the lions good food rather than venomous snakes.
They do get tired of eating the same garbage:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mHe7KH56ta0/S0bLFlT...
Rev Donald Wildmoan

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Jun 30, 2014
Homostats wrote:
The homosexuals have always justified homosexuality by explaining that human sexuality is a spectrum, not digital, as in either/or. They claim that there is a little homosexuality in everyone.
By the same argument, then wouldn't there then be some heterosexuality in everyone?
But when it comes to reparative therapy, they then argue that homosexuality is an absolute
You're not able to follow along because you're so wrapped up in the underwear ads from your old Sears catalogs.

By your argument, then, reparative therapy should work fine on heterosexuals, too. But we know it doesn't. Unless you're talking about five or more beers and the right situation.

Most people have a minor and a major. That doesn't change. Whether someone stuffs their preferred orientation - as you have - or does not the minor and the major remain the same. Their expression or suppression can change. The minor and the major don't. Not even if you pray to thong wearing, hunky carpenter, jeesus.

Just ask Marcus Bachmann or Larry Craig, imo.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#21 Jun 30, 2014
Homostats wrote:
The homosexuals have always justified homosexuality by explaining that human sexuality is a spectrum, not digital, as in either/or. They claim that there is a little homosexuality in everyone.
By the same argument, then wouldn't there then be some heterosexuality in everyone?
But when it comes to reparative therapy, they then argue that homosexuality is an absolute, and that therapy can only be harmful.
If human sexuality truly is a spread spectrum, there surely would be many youths who are are at the center of the spectrum, as in questioning, and who would benefit from a gentle nudge in the direction of normalcy.
It is interesting that if a youth who is questioning, exercises his right of free will to seek treatment, rather than wishing the best for him, the homosexuals vilify him and brand him as a turncoat.
Keep sniffing panties panty sniffer.

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