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Washington joins Maine and Maryland in endorsing same sex marriage

There are 160 comments on the The Guardian story from Nov 7, 2012, titled Washington joins Maine and Maryland in endorsing same sex marriage. In it, The Guardian reports that:

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“I call it as I see it.”

Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#153 Nov 23, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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The moon!? How did they get there? You are aware of the fact the moon doesn't have an atmosphere, don't you? I find your desperation amusing. Why not just accept the fact the people who wrote the story thought the earth was flat?
If you took the time to read my post, I was only throwing this out as a possible answer and not a concreter conclusion. If one considers the Biblical claims of Christ, lack of an atmosphere would have been as no consequence to him as he had supernatural powers. The Bible is just not specific on what that high place actually was.

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Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#154 Nov 23, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That's rich, since you took the time to change her name to "Lililth_Satans_Bore ".
Read posts #128 and 129. Lilith actually used the term Bore herself and I did not alter anything.

Since: Apr 10

Williston, ND

#155 Nov 23, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>If you took the time to read my post, I was only throwing this out as a possible answer and not a concreter conclusion. If one considers the Biblical claims of Christ, lack of an atmosphere would have been as no consequence to him as he had supernatural powers. The Bible is just not specific on what that high place actually was.
Yes they were on the moon, thats why the church imprisoned people like Galileo for saying the earth was not flat but a sphere, and why people for over a thousand years beleaved if one sailed over the horizon they would fall off the edge of the earth and be eaten by monsters. Learn history and you will find out that ALL book religions concidered it FACT that the earth was flat.

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#156 Nov 24, 2012
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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That's rich, since you took the time to change her name to "Lililth_Satans_Bore ".
He didn't, Lilith did.

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Since: Jul 09

Retirement City

#157 Nov 24, 2012
Quest wrote:
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He didn't, Lilith did.
Thank you.
Mona Lott

West New York, NJ

#158 Nov 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>If you took the time to read my post, I was only throwing this out as a possible answer and not a concreter conclusion. If one considers the Biblical claims of Christ, lack of an atmosphere would have been as no consequence to him as he had supernatural powers. The Bible is just not specific on what that high place actually was.
Christ had "supernatural powers,"eh? Well then, how could he have been the messiah? Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into the role of the Messiah.(see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)

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Retirement City

#159 Nov 24, 2012
JessicaDawn wrote:
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Yes they were on the moon, thats why the church imprisoned people like Galileo for saying the earth was not flat but a sphere, and why people for over a thousand years believed if one sailed over the horizon they would fall off the edge of the earth and be eaten by monsters. Learn history and you will find out that ALL book religions considered it FACT that the earth was flat.
That was the Roman Catholic Church and not the Bible speaking. By the time the Protestant Reformation was in full gear, the flat Earth belief was all but discredited courtesy of Magellan. Galileo's house arrest was due to believing the Sun was at the center of the solar system instead of the Earth and not for believing the Earth was round.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei

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Since: Jun 07

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#160 Nov 24, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Christ had "supernatural powers,"eh? Well then, how could he have been the messiah? Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into the role of the Messiah.(see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
Um, correction. There has not been a Christ yet. Jesus did not have the last name Christ, rather Christ is the Greek translation of the title Messiah. Siunce Jesus was obviously NOT the Messiah of prophecy, it is inappropriate to refer to him as Christ.
:P

(And since humor rarely comes across in posts like this, even with emoticons, yes I am teasing you about this...)

In fact, as an ordainded priest in my church, I am as much a "Christ" as Jesus ever was. MORE, of one, really... since Jesus was never annointed to ANY position, neither priest nor king.
Mona Lott

West New York, NJ

#161 Nov 24, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Um, correction. There has not been a Christ yet. Jesus did not have the last name Christ, rather Christ is the Greek translation of the title Messiah. Siunce Jesus was obviously NOT the Messiah of prophecy, it is inappropriate to refer to him as Christ.
:P
(And since humor rarely comes across in posts like this, even with emoticons, yes I am teasing you about this...)
In fact, as an ordainded priest in my church, I am as much a "Christ" as Jesus ever was. MORE, of one, really... since Jesus was never annointed to ANY position, neither priest nor king.
Um... I was responding to FATFLCAT and using his word from his post.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#162 Nov 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>If you took the time to read my post, I was only throwing this out as a possible answer and not a concreter conclusion. If one considers the Biblical claims of Christ, lack of an atmosphere would have been as no consequence to him as he had supernatural powers. The Bible is just not specific on what that high place actually was.
LOL. Maybe it was the Empire State Building. Face it, the story is a myth.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#163 Nov 24, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Read posts #128 and 129. Lilith actually used the term Bore herself and I did not alter anything.
My bad.

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#164 Nov 26, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Christ had "supernatural powers,"eh? Well then, how could he have been the messiah? Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents, and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities. In fact, an individual is alive in every generation with the capacity to step into the role of the Messiah.(see Maimonides - Laws of Kings 11:3)
Where does it say Jesus would not have any supernatural powers specifically?

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#165 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Where does it say Jesus would not have any supernatural powers specifically?
Well, the Bible refers many times to the Messiah as the son of David. Why would he have any more powers than any other human?

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#166 Nov 26, 2012
Liam R wrote:
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Well, the Bible refers many times to the Messiah as the son of David. Why would he have any more powers than any other human?
The Bible in tjhe Old Testament clearly stated that the Messiah would not be well received and Jesus certainly wasn'twell received. The Old Testament nowhere denied that he would be somebody special with supernatural powers. You cannot prove he was not endowed with the power of miracles by what is said in the Bible. Your argument is weak.
Clarabell

Netherlands

#167 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible in tjhe Old Testament clearly stated that the Messiah would not be well received and Jesus certainly wasn'twell received. The Old Testament nowhere denied that he would be somebody special with supernatural powers. You cannot prove he was not endowed with the power of miracles by what is said in the Bible. Your argument is weak.
None of this bible babble has anything to do with the topic of this thread! This country is first and foremost a secular nation! Keep your sky fairy in your church where he/she belongs! Perhaps a thread on a christian sight would be more to your liking? Adios!

evilbible.com For the truth!

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#168 Nov 26, 2012
Clarabell wrote:
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None of this bible babble has anything to do with the topic of this thread! This country is first and foremost a secular nation! Keep your sky fairy in your church where he/she belongs! Perhaps a thread on a christian sight would be more to your liking? Adios!
evilbible.com For the truth!
I am not the one who started the idea on this thread that the Bible states the earth is flat and not round which I disagree with.

Since: Apr 11

Panorama City, CA

#169 Nov 26, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I am not the one who started the idea on this thread that the Bible states the earth is flat and not round which I disagree with.
The bible clearly indicates the earth is flat, and round.
It says the heavens are like a tent, but they are in no way like a tent.
It says plants were growing before there was a sun. That's impossible. The creation myth clearly shows that those who wrote it didn't know daylight comes from the sun, and that moon light is just a reflection of sunlight.
Why not accept it's just a myth?

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#170 Nov 26, 2012
Clarabell wrote:
This country is first and foremost a secular nation!
Of course, the UK has a state religion and the head of state is also the head of the state religion.

So you aren't speaking of the UK.

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Since: Jun 07

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#171 Nov 27, 2012
flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible in tjhe Old Testament clearly stated that the Messiah would not be well received and Jesus certainly wasn'twell received. The Old Testament nowhere denied that he would be somebody special with supernatural powers. You cannot prove he was not endowed with the power of miracles by what is said in the Bible. Your argument is weak.
The Bible also did not say that the Messiah was not going to be a fish either. Jesus did not have fins, therefore, he could not have been the Messiah.

And since I am sure that went way over your head...

The actual Messianic prophecies do not say that the Messiah will be poorly received. That comes from a xian misinterpretation of Isaiah 53, which does not talk about the Messiah at all. Read IN context, it is a reference to the children of Israel taken as a collective singular.

Of course, the Bible also says that the Messiah will clear the lands of foreign invaders and restore the Temple so that the blood sacrifices can resume. Jesus certainly failed to do that. In fact, after Jesus died, the foreign invaders destroyed the Temple, preventing any sacrifices, and then drove the children of Israel from the land. Oops. REAL big failure on the part of Jesus if he was supposed to be the Messiah.

Furthermore, prophecy also says that the real Messiah will usher in a time of peace and prosperity. Even if we take an extremely narrow view and assume that this refers only to the lands of Israel, Jesus certainly failed here, too. Or did you miss the news about the hundreds of rockets being launched at Israel from Hamas terrorists?

When it really comes right down to it, Jesus only managed to fulfill the easy prophecies, the ones that have been "fulfilled" by HUNDREDS of men.

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#172 Nov 27, 2012
Clarabell wrote:
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None of this bible babble has anything to do with the topic of this thread! This country is first and foremost a secular nation! Keep your sky fairy in your church where he/she belongs! Perhaps a thread on a christian sight would be more to your liking? Adios!
evilbible.com For the truth!
Here is another good site:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

Note: some of their points can be refuted, not all of their contradictions are actual contradictions &c. Still good though. You just need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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