Pollster: Question 1 support may be inflated; former NFL chief donates to proponents' group

Oct 10, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: bangordailynews.com

Polls showing support for same-sex marriage could be misleading, a veteran pollster warned Wednesday as he released his own survey showing strong support for Question 1.

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Oct 10, 2012
 
Well, analysts are supposed to be objective and cautious, but from what I just read the numbers are still encouraging. 47% say they support marriage equality, 24% support civil unions, and another 4% are live-and-let-live types. Added together, about 75% support fairness, and I bet some of those people in support of civil unions will cross over to vote in favor of marriage equality come election day. Even if just 4% of that group votes in favor, that makes a majority, so the polls are still very promising. Last, the margin of error would have to be at least 10% to swing the poll away from equality, while a margin half that would probably still yield results nominally in favor.

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55-45 is indeed encouraging numbers, but TOTALLY meaningless unless they show up and VOTE.

If we don't win in Maine, Washington, & Maryland where we hold similar margins in all the recent polls, then we need to simply save our money and instead work to elect politicians who will appoint pro-equality judges to the courts.

If we can't win this year, then there's no hope of winning in states like Pennsylvania or Oregon or Ohio.

We'll just have to wait until more of the old anti-gay geezers die off over the next decade.
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Oct 10, 2012
 
WeTheSheeple wrote:
55-45 is indeed encouraging numbers, but TOTALLY meaningless unless they show up and VOTE.
If we don't win in Maine, Washington, & Maryland where we hold similar margins in all the recent polls, then we need to simply save our money and instead work to elect politicians who will appoint pro-equality judges to the courts.
If we can't win this year, then there's no hope of winning in states like Pennsylvania or Oregon or Ohio.
We'll just have to wait until more of the old anti-gay geezers die off over the next decade.
"We'll just have to wait until more of the old anti-gay geezers die off over the next decade."
That belief is a typical case of homosexuals believing their own distorted rhetoric. Many of the young are simply apathetic. Their silence is mis-interpreted by the gays as support. You don't have to be old for your intuition to tell you that homosexuality is contrary to the needs of society.

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You don't have to be old for your intuition to tell you that homosexuality is contrary to the needs of society.
*Yawn* Who the fruck do you think creates us "gay" folk? We are born to every/any culture and society. Deal with it.
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Queers should straighten up and join the Righteous Ones.
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NE Jade wrote:
<quoted text>*Yawn* Who the fruck do you think creates us "gay" folk? We are born to every/any culture and society. Deal with it.
"Yawn"??
Homosexuality is the most common cause of narcolepsy.

"Who the fruck do you think creates us "gay" folk?"
No one creates gays on purpose. It's just something all those cultures and societies unfortunately have to "deal with".

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Junior E wrote:
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"We'll just have to wait until more of the old anti-gay geezers die off over the next decade."
That belief is a typical case of homosexuals believing their own distorted rhetoric. Many of the young are simply apathetic. Their silence is mis-interpreted by the gays as support. You don't have to be old for your intuition to tell you that homosexuality is contrary to the needs of society.
The younger generation is apathetic when it comes to voting in general, but not their support of marriage equality. It's not like they're voting on everything else but just leaving the section on marriage equality blank. Unfortunately only 25% of those under age 30 bother to vote for anything. But as they get older and start voting on a regular basis, then they will vote those values.

By the end of the decade this is all over. Hopefully we don't have to wait that long to get our first victory at the polls, but I'm realistic enough to admit that may be how it plays out.

Old anti-gay geezers die off.
Young people get older and become regular voters.

Tick tock.......

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Normal Decent Hetero wrote:
Queers should straighten up and join the Righteous Ones.
Is that some kind of punk rock band?

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Is that some kind of punk rock band?
Why punish "punk rock"? We shall call his little "shtick", as it is.....lack of penis!
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WeTheSheeple wrote:
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The younger generation is apathetic when it comes to voting in general, but not their support of marriage equality. It's not like they're voting on everything else but just leaving the section on marriage equality blank. Unfortunately only 25% of those under age 30 bother to vote for anything. But as they get older and start voting on a regular basis, then they will vote those values.
By the end of the decade this is all over. Hopefully we don't have to wait that long to get our first victory at the polls, but I'm realistic enough to admit that may be how it plays out.
Old anti-gay geezers die off.
Young people get older and become regular voters.
Tick tock.......
"Young people get older and become regular voters."
But as they grow older, hopefully they grow smarter.

The hourglass of homosexuality may run out of sand this November.
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21% increase of population in political-support for more special rights and welfare payments and double-standards under the law?
In Maine? Maine-voters favor queers pretending to counterfeit marriage?
Yeah, right.

The vast majority of people wish that queers would keep their bedrooms out-of-government, especially concerning our local school districts funded by the taxpayers of this district.
It's so sickening to see all these filthy adult queers storming the gates into the government schools.
For obvious reasons.
That's where the kids are.

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Seriously, upset student? And do share. Just what about anything you post is "student", "educated", or even on the track of sanity? Now... go screw the imaginary wife, kids, cat,...whatever! Please keep those imaginary statistics, they will become very useful as birth control. LOL
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Seriously, upset student? And do share. Just what about anything you post is "student", "educated", or even on the track of sanity? Now... go screw the imaginary wife, kids, cat,...whatever! Please keep those imaginary statistics, they will become very useful as birth control. LOL
Normal Hetero NOT Perverse Deviancies!!!

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V-Scale questions are difficult to devise and and implement correctly, and are usually sorely lacking in most surveys.

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Junior E wrote:
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"Young people get older and become regular voters."
But as they grow older, hopefully they grow smarter.
The hourglass of homosexuality may run out of sand this November.
Actually the more educated one is, the more likely they are to support marriage equality for same-sex couples.

People don't suddenly become bigots just because they get older. They seldom go from supporting equality for their gay & lesbian friends, neighbors, family members, coworkers, etc., to supporting discrimination against those same individual.

If the "hourglass" should run out this Nov, then we'll simply flip it over and try again, and again, and again, etc., until we are successful.

This only ends one way- full marriage equality nationwide. The only question is WHEN. I'd say by the end of the decade at most.

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upset student wrote:
21% increase of population in political-support for more special rights and welfare payments and double-standards under the law?
In Maine? Maine-voters favor queers pretending to counterfeit marriage?
Yeah, right.
The vast majority of people wish that queers would keep their bedrooms out-of-government, especially concerning our local school districts funded by the taxpayers of this district.
It's so sickening to see all these filthy adult queers storming the gates into the government schools.
For obvious reasons.
That's where the kids are.
There are gay & lesbian taxpayers in every school district in the nation.

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Oct 11, 2012
 
Recent polls in Ohio & Florida show more than 50%support for marriage equality for same-sex couples. Even Virginia has more supporters than opposition, though it's still less than 50% there.

Of course that doesn't mean over 50% of VOTERS will support marriage equality there- because we know many of the supposedly religious anti-gay people lie to polling organizations about supporting marriage equality- but it DOES show the trend continues to move in only one direction.

That's probably why the anti-gays went to court to attempt to block a referendum to repeal Ohio's constitutional ban on same-sex couples marrying.

So much for "let the people vote"! I guess that only applies when you think your side will win.

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