Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Each of us will have a "day of judgment".
Matthew 12:36 (NKJV)
36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
You didn't answer the question. Is it a singular event like the tribulation and rapture?

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Each of us will have a "day of judgment".
Matthew 12:36 (NKJV)
36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.
Jesus also said don't worry about tomorrow. Why should we worry about an event taking place in the future?

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Nonsense. Jesus did the same thing by using scripture. There is nothing prophetic about either. In order to meet the true definition of prophesy, the individuals fulfilling prophesy would have no knowledge of the prophesy. The Zionist birth of Israel has nothing to do with what was written in Hebrew Scripture. I'll leave such prophesization to superstitious believers in mythology like you my simple minded friend.
Israel is back. This is the terminal generation, whether you believe it or not.

“this generation”

Luke 21:32 (NKJV)
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.

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You didn't answer the question. Is it a singular event like the tribulation and rapture?
ROTFLMAO
Irrelevant.

2 Corinthians 5:10-11 (NKJV)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;

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Jesus also said don't worry about tomorrow. Why should we worry about an event taking place in the future?
That was ONLY for Christians. The rest should WORRY!

Matthew 24:21 (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The time is at hand.

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Each of us will have a "day of judgment".
If the Book is right dear, we will, you included. But if the Book is right, you and your certainty are certainly in trouble. You just keep praying that God hates what you imagine our sins to be as much as you would want Him to. I'm sure he appreciates it.

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<quoted text>If the Book is right dear, we will, you included. But if the Book is right, you and your certainty are certainly in trouble. You just keep praying that God hates what you imagine our sins to be as much as you would want Him to. I'm sure he appreciates it.
Your unBiblical opinion rejected.

Mk 16 he who believeth not shall be DAMNED.

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Irrelevant.
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 (NKJV)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. 11 Knowing, therefore, the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;
Paul's opinion relevant? What makes Paul's opinion of any value?

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That was ONLY for Christians. The rest should WORRY!
Matthew 24:21 (NKJV)
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
The time is at hand.
If you have a mystical explanation I would be interested. In the absence of mystical context, this is nothing more than a fairy tale.

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The gay community will certainly use gay marriage as a way to harass any religious denominations that refuse to support them. It is religious persecution, sanctioned by the secular left in 2009.
Well this is load of crock. Marriage is a state license issued by the secular community. Why it impacts churches is just more of their false "persecution" they love to spread

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The time is at hand.
Failed End Times Predictions:

Here are 10 that didn't pan out, so far:

The Prophet Hen of Leeds, 1806

History has countless examples of people who have proclaimed that the return of Jesus Christ is imminent, but perhaps there has never been a stranger messenger than a hen in the English town of Leeds in 1806. It seems that a hen began laying eggs on which the phrase "Christ is coming" was written. As news of this miracle spread, many people became convinced that doomsday was at hand — until a curious local actually watched the hen laying one of the prophetic eggs and discovered someone had hatched a hoax.

[End of the World? Top Doomsday Fears]

The Millerites, April 23, 1843

A New England farmer named William Miller, after several years of very careful study of his Bible, concluded that God's chosen time to destroy the world could be divined from a strict literal interpretation of scripture. As he explained to anyone who would listen, the world would end some time between March 21, 1843 and March 21, 1844. He preached and published enough to eventually lead thousands of followers (known as Millerites) who decided that the actual date was April 23, 1843. Many sold or gave away their possessions, assuming they would not be needed; though when April 23 arrived (but Jesus didn't) the group eventually disbanded—some of them forming what is now the Seventh Day Adventists.

Mormon Armageddon, 1891 or earlier

Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, called a meeting of his church leaders in February 1835 to tell them that he had spoken to God recently, and during their conversation he learned that Jesus would return within the next 56 years, after which the End Times would begin promptly.

Halley's Comet, 1910

In 1881, an astronomer discovered through spectral analysis that comet tails include a deadly gas called cyanogen (related, as the name imples, to cyanide). This was of only passing interest until someone realized that Earth would pass through the tail of Halley's comet in 1910. Would everyone on the planet be bathed in deadly toxic gas? That was the speculation reprinted on the front pages of "The New York Times" and other newspapers, resulting in a widespread panic across the United States and abroad. Finally even-headed scientists explained that there was nothing to fear.

Pat Robertson, 1982

In May 1980, televangelist and Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson startled and alarmed many when — contrary to Matthew 24:36 ("No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven...") he informed his "700 Club" TV show audience around the world that he knew when the world would end. "I guarantee you by the end of 1982 there is going to be a judgment on the world," Robertson said.

Heaven's Gate, 1997

When comet Hale-Bopp appeared in 1997, rumors surfaced that an alien spacecraft was following the comet — covered up, of course, by NASA and the astronomical community. Though the claim was refuted by astronomers (and could be refuted by anyone with a good telescope), the rumors were publicized on Art Bell's paranormal radio talk show "Coast to Coast AM." These claims inspired a San Diego UFO cult named Heaven's Gate to conclude that the world would end soon. The world did indeed end for 39 of the cult members, who committed suicide on March 26, 1997.

Nostradamus, August 1999

The heavily obfuscated and metaphorical writings of Michel de Nostrdame have intrigued people for over 400 years. His writings, the accuracy of which relies heavily upon very flexible interpretations, have been translated and re-translated in dozens of different versions. One of the most famous quatrains read, "The year 1999, seventh month / From the sky will come great king of terror." Many Nostradamus devotees grew concerned that this was the famed prognosticator's vision of Armageddon.

http://www.livescience.com/7926-10-failed-doo...

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Y2K, Jan. 1, 2000

As the last century drew to a close, many people grew concerned that computers might bring about doomsday. The problem, first noted in the early 1970s, was that many computers would not be able to tell the difference between 2000 and 1900 dates. No one was really sure what that would do, but many suggested catastrophic problems ranging from vast blackouts to nuclear holocaust. Gun sales jumped and survivalists prepared to live in bunkers, but the new millennium began with only a few glitches.

May 5, 2000

In case the Y2K bug didn't do us in, global catastrophe was assured by Richard Noone, author of the 1997 book "5/5/2000 Ice: the Ultimate Disaster." According to Noone, the Antarctic ice mass would be three miles thick by May 5, 2000 — a date in which the planets would be aligned in the heavens, somehow resulting in a global icy death (or at least a lot of book sales). Perhaps global warming kept the ice age at bay.

God's Church Ministry, Fall 2008

According to God's Church minister Ronald Weinland, the end times are upon us-- again. His 2006 book "2008: God's Final Witness" states that hundreds of millions of people will die, and by the end of 2006, "there will be a maximum time of two years remaining before the world will be plunged into the worst time of all human history. By the fall of 2008, the United States will have collapsed as a world power, and no longer exist as an independent nation." As the book notes, "Ronald Weinland places his reputation on the line as the end-time prophet of God."

http://www.livescience.com/7926-10-failed-doo...

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Israel is back. This is the terminal generation, whether you believe it or not.
“this generation”
Luke 21:32 (NKJV)
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
Prove it using readily verifiable non-ontological evidence. Sorry, the Bible doesn't qualify as such.

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Well this is load of crock. Marriage is a state license issued by the secular community. Why it impacts churches is just more of their false "persecution" they love to spread
At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Ss couples are a defective failure of mating behavior. Clearly not equal.

More than that, you attempt to dumb down marriage to a contract between two people. While marriage has been cross cultural and across religion throughout human history.

You hateful, ignorant bigotry is exposed by your last sentence.

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Your unBiblical opinion rejected.
Mk 16 he who believeth not shall be DAMNED.
Dumpling, I'm merely telling you what the Bible says, and what it has to say about alleged Christians like you, not good. If you want to reject God's Word, that is entirely up to you, I'm just trying to disabuse you of the silly notion that it is going to work out like you pray.

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How about these failed End Times Predictions Dollar?
May 19, 1719 Jacques (also Jakob I) Bernoulli, the first of a famous line of Swiss mathematicians who made their home in Berne, predicted the return of the comet of 1680 and earth-rending results therefrom. The comet did not come back, perhaps for astronomical reasons, but Bernoulli went on to discover a mathematical series now called the Bernoulli Numbers. He is renowned for this and for the eight exceptional mathematicians his line produced in three generations, but not for Doomsday nor for his astronomical calculations.
October 13, 1736 London was once again targeted for the "beginning of the end," this time by William Whiston. The Thames filled with waiting boatloads of citizens, but it didn't even rain. Another setback.

1801 Astrologer Pierre Turrel (see 1537) chose this date, along with three others, for The End. His first two had already failed by this time. Again, no luck.
1814 Astrologer Pierre Turrel (remember him?) chose this last date for The End. His three others had already failed, and, again no luck! As author Charles Mackay wryly noted, "the world wagged as merrily as before."
1881 Those who delighted in measuring the various passages of the Great Pyramid of Giza, presumed to be the tomb of Cheops, calculated that all would be over in 1881. Careful remeasuring and some imagination gave a better (but not much better) date of 1936. That was improved upon by other students who decided upon 1953 as the terminal year. Further refinements and improvements of technique are still being made. If we get a new date, we'll let you know.

1914 One of three dates the Jehovah's Witnesses promised The End. The others were 1874 and 1975.
1947 In 1889, "America's Greatest Prophet," John Ballou Newbrough, said that for sure in 1947:
all the present governments, religions and all monied monopolies are to be overthrown and go out of existence.... Our present form of so-called Christian religion will overrun America, tear down the American flag, and trample it underfoot. In Europe the disaster will be even more terrible.... Hundreds of thousands of people will be killed.... All nations will be demolished and the earth be thrown open to all people to go and come as they please.
It wasn't a great year, but it wasn't all that bad.
1953 Again, a group of Great Pyramid nuts with their tape-measures figured out this year as the last. Back to the King's Chamber, guys.
1974 Interestingly enough, the conjunction of heavenly bodies that occurred back in 1524 was far, far more powerful than the more recent one described in a silly book titled The Jupiter Effect, written by two otherwise sensible astronomers who, in 1974, predicted dreadful effects on our planet as a result of a March 10, 1982, "alignment" of planets. Other astronomers denied that any effect would be felt, and when the date came and went, as you may have noticed, no one noticed. One of the authors reported that some earthquakes which had occurred in 1980 had been the "premature result of The Jupiter Effect," and the public yawned in amazement.
1975 One of the several dates promised by the Jehovah's Witnesses as The Date. Wrong.
1977 John Wroe, who is described by the kindliest historian we can find as a "foul-mouthed, ugly, dirty lecher," in 1823 inherited the leadership of the Southcottian sect in England when an End-of-the-World prophecy by John Turner failed. Learning from the example, Wroe took no chances. He made his Armageddon prophecy for 1977. A 1971 book, Prophets Without Honor, says of Wroe:
At a time when thermo-nuclear powers face each other across the Iron and Bamboo Curtains, it is well to remember that——as far as can be judged from the scanty records——John Wroe, indeed, was a true prophet!
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End Times..... any day now..... ROTFLMAO

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You hateful, ignorant bigotry is exposed by your last sentence.
Bigotry would be fundamental churches attempting to thrust their religious opinion onto the institution of civil marriage. Holy Matrimony has NEVER been a requirement for marriage. The UCC has it right; you have it wrong.

Still married. Your opinions still don't matter. You still don't matter. 253 units at our lake-home condo association and even the republicans here recognize us as married.

You're out of touch, out of the loop and out of control. Probably out of Depends undergarments too. Better check the inventory.

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Israel is back. This is the terminal generation, whether you believe it or not.
“this generation”
Luke 21:32 (NKJV)
32 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
LMAO

Go find a good therapist for help with your delusion bro.

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Bigotry would be fundamental churches attempting to thrust their religious opinion onto the institution of civil marriage. Holy Matrimony has NEVER been a requirement for marriage. The UCC has it right; you have it wrong.
Still married. Your opinions still don't matter. You still don't matter. 253 units at our lake-home condo association and even the republicans here recognize us as married.
You're out of touch, out of the loop and out of control. Probably out of Depends undergarments too. Better check the inventory.
It's not just real Churches, its EVERY SINGLE religion and culture in history!

Repeat it all you want, one look, and countless differences are obvious between your relationship and marriage.

Is the UCC dead yet, cause all they have are really, really old people...

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