Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 Full story: news.yahoo.com 16,104

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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LowellGuy

United States

#3840 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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A baker is being investigated for refusing to bake a cake for a same sex wedding. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/04/oregon-b...
Its happened to bed and breakfast owners. Parents in some schools are being forced to have their children learn about homosexuality against the wishes of the parents.
Look also what happened to Chick-fil-A.
If I'm against race mixing, and an inter-racial couple wants me to make them a b/w cake celebrating their union, and I deny them my services on the basis of race, do you agree with that?

For the record, businesspeople should be free to be as nice or bigoted as they want to be. Let the free market eliminate them from the economy, and make it easier for good people to know which businesses to avoid. Kind of like how I use the Christian demarcations in phone book listings.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#3841 Feb 6, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Exactly! Those business owners should be sued.
These same folks who are biotching about their supposed "moral" values being attacked would frucking scream bloody murder if someone denied them some religious cake or something else because it could go against that person's "MORAL" values......but we already know that idiots like Jeff don't truly care about the beliefs of others......just their own beliefs!!!
LowellGuy

United States

#3842 Feb 6, 2013
doug wrote:
<quoted text> may i point out to it is deft.not natural just imagine the stinky smell, not illegal depending on your laws,non christian Gov. it is definitely perverted and it is completely wrong from the Bible's point of view.
You eat da poo poo!

Insert "bone through nose/chasing a lion/ plate lip" joke here.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#3843 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Most people don't have a baby before they get married. What we do know is that only 2 opposite sex people can procreate naturally. Same sex cannot.
I could care less what you and your warped religious interpretations mean to you and you don't get to tell me or anybody else that the reason for marriage is to have kids. If the only reason you got married was to procreate nasty little fundie trolls, as you were, for your religious crap, that's your damn business and not to be forced onto the masses.
LowellGuy

United States

#3844 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Homosexuals are not being deprived any rights. Are you for prohibiting the rights of brothers and sisters to marry? Groups to marry?
Blacks and whites weren't being deprived of the right to marry either.

Notice that you never answer questions. You've learned that if you answer questions too often, it will give us ways to catch you in lies or logical contradictions. If you weren't so dishonest, you wouldn't have to work so hard at avoiding providing direct answers to questions.

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#3845 Feb 6, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>In which state is it required that married people reproduce????
None! He's being deceptive as usual.
LowellGuy

United States

#3846 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Homosexual couples do not reproduce, incapable of modeling balanced parenting to children, children do better in the traditional family than any other kind of family, it would encourage homosexual behavior (which is unhealthy), it would equate same sex marriage as equal to traditional marriage, forces people to accept something that violates their moral convictions.
So, you DO support banning the infertile and elderly from marrying. It would be nice if you'd be more explicit about it, though. Leaving it for us to surmise from your "gay is the bad" posts makes you appear wishy-washy, and you know what the Bible says about that.

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#3847 Feb 6, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Blacks and whites weren't being deprived of the right to marry either.
Notice that you never answer questions. You've learned that if you answer questions too often, it will give us ways to catch you in lies or logical contradictions. If you weren't so dishonest, you wouldn't have to work so hard at avoiding providing direct answers to questions.
BRAVO!

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#3848 Feb 6, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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These same folks who are biotching about their supposed "moral" values being attacked would frucking scream bloody murder if someone denied them some religious cake or something else because it could go against that person's "MORAL" values......but we already know that idiots like Jeff don't truly care about the beliefs of others......just their own beliefs!!!
That's typical of a "immoral" selfish narcissistic fundie.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#3849 Feb 6, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>I could care less what you and your warped religious interpretations mean to you and you don't get to tell me or anybody else that the reason for marriage is to have kids. If the only reason you got married was to procreate nasty little fundie trolls, as you were, for your religious crap, that's your damn business and not to be forced onto the masses.
I'm not basing my arguments against it on religious reasons.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#3850 Feb 6, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Blacks and whites weren't being deprived of the right to marry either.
Notice that you never answer questions. You've learned that if you answer questions too often, it will give us ways to catch you in lies or logical contradictions. If you weren't so dishonest, you wouldn't have to work so hard at avoiding providing direct answers to questions.
Blacks and whites should be allowed to marry if they are opposite sexes.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#3851 Feb 6, 2013
Earth Child 1 wrote:
<quoted text>That's typical of a "immoral" selfish narcissistic fundie.
Why yes it is.......lol!!!

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#3852 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Blacks and whites should be allowed to marry if they are opposite sexes.
you must be 12 yrs old.. no adult is as dumb as you are..well, except fundies.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#3853 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Blacks and whites should be allowed to marry if they are opposite sexes.
They should be allowed to marry EVEN if they aren't opposite-sex!!!!

Who are you to decide who should have the right to marry who?

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#3854 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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I'm not basing my arguments against it on religious reasons.
What other reason do you have, then? Remember that procreation is not the SOLE reason to marry because many couples marry and do not/can not have children!!!
LowellGuy

United States

#3855 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Blacks and whites should be allowed to marry if they are opposite sexes.
Why? And, what if they're incapable of procreating? Should they still be allowed to marry? If so, why?

“Jesus=only way into Heaven”

Since: Nov 12

saved by grace through faith

#3856 Feb 6, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>you must be 12 yrs old.. no adult is as dumb as you are..well, except fundies.
Well he owns you guys in every thread and every debate. Don't you unbelievers ever get tired of looking like fools and losing every single debate? No wonder you unbelievers have to resort to childish and idiotic lies.......

Time to go make up some more lies about the bible......or maybe get your "friends" to start banning people.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#3857 Feb 6, 2013
LowellGuy wrote:
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Why? And, what if they're incapable of procreating? Should they still be allowed to marry? If so, why?
Opposite sex people should be allowed to marry. Even people in their old age who cannot procreate still affirm the value of traditional marriage which benefits all.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#3858 Feb 6, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Could you kindly define "NOT LONG AGO"? Because frankly your "NOT LONG AGO" sounds like stuff from the Old West........almost 170 years ago.......but I could be off!!!
It actually happens today in our time. In remote villages in China, Russia, Africa, South and Central America NG and other groups have filmed this taking place. To change a popular phrase, "What's born in the village, stays in the village." Watch Fiddler On The Roof if you wish to see a theatrical example. The indigenous people right here in our country did this thing in their tribes all the time. The east coast Indian tribes, the plains Indians, the west coast Indians and the Pueblo Indians all did it. A young couple married and the village helped build their home and gave gifts to help them begin their lives.

“Reality bites”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#3859 Feb 6, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Opposite sex people should be allowed to marry. Even people in their old age who cannot procreate still affirm the value of traditional marriage which benefits all.
Ok Brian-G, hows does YOUR marriage benefit mine or my marriage

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