Will Gay Marriage Pit Church Against Church?

Apr 27, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz | Full story: news.yahoo.com

The trouble they see is not just an America where general support for gay marriage will have driven a wedge between churches and the world, but between churches themselves.

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Jeff

San Jose, CA

#271 Jan 20, 2013
Cookie_Parker wrote:
Since there is no mention in the Bible that Christ was against homosexuality, I think the issue of gay marriage will definitely divide churches against each other...maybe not against each other, but will have some stand out as supporting more the word of Christ.
Jesus certainly against the practice of homosexuality as He was against adultery and fornication etc. See Mark 7:21

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Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#272 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Jesus certainly against the practice of homosexuality as He was against adultery and fornication etc. See Mark 7:21
Only when it came to lust, just for the sake of lust. There is no sin against love.

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Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#273 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Jesus certainly against the practice of homosexuality as He was against adultery and fornication etc. See Mark 7:21
Mark 7:22 applies directly to YOU!

yep.. YOU! read and heed heathen!

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#274 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Jesus certainly against the practice of homosexuality as He was against adultery and fornication etc. See Mark 7:21
actually.. the entire chapter applies to you! Yes, YOU!
Dontcha just hate it when you throw shit and it gets all over your face?
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#275 Jan 20, 2013
Troth for Leogere wrote:
<quoted text>Mark 7:22 applies directly to YOU!
yep.. YOU! read and heed heathen!
Applies also to you. Its these kinds of sins all people will give an account for in the judgement and be punished for them. "read and heed heathen!"
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#276 Jan 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Only when it came to lust, just for the sake of lust. There is no sin against love.
Homosexual sex is all about lust.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#277 Jan 20, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>People use to think the same thing about them allowing blacks to hold the priesthood. I think when it gets to the point it has a negative impact on their conversions, or their tax status, they will have another "revelation."
It's all about the money...

“ ILKS r kewl ”

Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#278 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Homosexual sex is all about lust.
and you are an idiot too. Do not speak about that which you know nothing of...
Psalm 58:3..

you speak lies.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#279 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Jesus certainly against the practice of homosexuality as He was against adultery and fornication etc. See Mark 7:21
Prove that is the 100% inerrant and intact Word of God or stop misrepresenting Him.

Good luck.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#280 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Homosexual sex is all about lust.
Uh...no.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#281 Jan 20, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Uh...no.
Its not just the lust but the devastating health consequences for those who engage in it.

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Since: Apr 09

Conch republic

#282 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Its not just the lust but the devastating health consequences for those who engage in it.
LMAO.. you gonna keep changing your bullpucky with changes to your statements? LMAO thats what liars do.. they cant keep a good lie going.. and yours has changed several times!
Chance

Grove City, PA

#283 Jan 20, 2013
The devil couldn't have picked a better issue with which to divide church from church and people from people within churches. Divided they fall, which I contend was the point of normalizing homosexuality all along because the churches and Christians are the ones most likely to make a stand against tyrannical government. Destroy them and tyranny wins.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#284 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Its not just the lust but the devastating health consequences for those who engage in it.
Now that's silly.

If you are concerned about "health consequences" then you should fully support gay marriage.

Gay marriage promotes monogamy, which necessarily reduces STD's.

Neither my husband nor I have any diseases; therefore no matter what we were to do together in bed, we cannot give each other any diseases.

Further, it is a fact that statistics show married people live longer, healthier lives and rely less on government assistance for health care.

So again, if you are really concerned about that, you must support gay marriage. Otherwise you're just a hypocrite putting up a fake argument.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#285 Jan 20, 2013
Chance wrote:
The devil couldn't have picked a better issue with which to divide church from church and people from people within churches. Divided they fall, which I contend was the point of normalizing homosexuality all along because the churches and Christians are the ones most likely to make a stand against tyrannical government. Destroy them and tyranny wins.
What tyrannical government?

The current mainstream "church" is the false church of Revelation. They are fooled into believing things and acting on things that are very un-Christlike and do not serve God; for example: treating your neighbor as less than yourself rather than loving your neighbor, celebrating pagan holidays like christmas and easter (which were in existence before Christ was born,)and chasing money as if it were a worthy goal.

Churches have no better shot against your imaginary tyranny than anyone else. Progressives would be most likely to fight it. Conservatives tend to fall in lock-step like sheep.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#286 Jan 20, 2013
p.s. apparently you missed this one, Jeff. So I'll repeat it:

Prove that is the 100% inerrant and intact Word of God or stop misrepresenting Him.

Good luck.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#287 Jan 20, 2013
Tony C wrote:
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Now that's silly.
If you are concerned about "health consequences" then you should fully support gay marriage.
Gay marriage promotes monogamy, which necessarily reduces STD's.
Neither my husband nor I have any diseases; therefore no matter what we were to do together in bed, we cannot give each other any diseases.
Further, it is a fact that statistics show married people live longer, healthier lives and rely less on government assistance for health care.
So again, if you are really concerned about that, you must support gay marriage. Otherwise you're just a hypocrite putting up a fake argument.
Don't be silly. Gay marriage is a oxymoron. As for the health consequences due to homosexual sex is staggering. Just look it up on the CDC site. How many of your friends are very sick? How many have died?

Again, homosexual men as a group are not monogamous. The multiple partners they have far outstrip heterosexual men.
Jeff

San Jose, CA

#288 Jan 20, 2013
Tony C wrote:
p.s. apparently you missed this one, Jeff. So I'll repeat it:
Prove that is the 100% inerrant and intact Word of God or stop misrepresenting Him.
Good luck.
Its irrelevant to this issue. Do you know the Lord Christ spoke against the practice of homosexuality?
In Mark 7:21 and Matthew 19:9 where He uses the word "unchasity" and "immorality" which includes adultery, incest, premarital infidelity, homosexuality, bestiality and any other sexual conduct condemned in the OT. Since Christ is God in the flesh then that means God Himself does speak against it.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#289 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Don't be silly. Gay marriage is a oxymoron. As for the health consequences due to homosexual sex is staggering. Just look it up on the CDC site. How many of your friends are very sick? How many have died?
Again, homosexual men as a group are not monogamous. The multiple partners they have far outstrip heterosexual men.
You are talking nonsense and steretypes. It's very easily refuted because I'm talking about real people with real lives.

I am friends with hundreds of gay men and I know thousands (no exaggeration - I used to bartend in a couple of gay bars, and I now own my own business in a gay area.)

Two that I know of have HIV, have had it for over 20 years, and are doing quite well. I'm sure there are more.

Two good friends died from AIDS several years ago.

I have a lot more straight friends and family members who have died from cancer due to smoking, drinking, or from complications of obesity, etc.

I have never cheated on one single person in my entire life, even if we were only casually dating, even if we made no promise of exclusivity. That's just the way I am. And I'm gay. So that blows your little theory out of the water.

Not that this matters, but your younger generations of straight people are total whores for the most part.

In addition, what we consider "having sex with many partners" over time, is what you typically consider foreplay.

But when we commit to marriage, it means the same thing as it does to heterosexuals. There will be some who cheat. There will be a minority who do odd things like open marriages, just like straight people. And there will be those like me and my spouse, who are pretty old-fashioned, and simply love each other til death do us part. That is my preference, not a whole bunch of different partners.

So stop talking smack about which you know nothing. You have real live gay people on this message board. Take the opportunity to ask questions and learn instead of making a fool out of yourself issuing ignorant statements.

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#290 Jan 20, 2013
Jeff wrote:
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Its irrelevant to this issue. Do you know the Lord Christ spoke against the practice of homosexuality?
In Mark 7:21 and Matthew 19:9 where He uses the word "unchasity" and "immorality" which includes adultery, incest, premarital infidelity, homosexuality, bestiality and any other sexual conduct condemned in the OT. Since Christ is God in the flesh then that means God Himself does speak against it.
You can't prove anything Jesus said unless you can prove any one version of the bible is the 100% inerrant, intact, accurate Word Of God.

Discredited. Next.

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