Argentine gays remember new pope's 'w...

Argentine gays remember new pope's 'war' against gay marriage when he was cardinal

There are 11 comments on the edmontonjournal.com story from Mar 15, 2013, titled Argentine gays remember new pope's 'war' against gay marriage when he was cardinal. In it, edmontonjournal.com reports that:

While the appointment of Jorge Mario Bergoglio as pope fills many in Argentina with pride, members of the gay pride community are somewhat aghast.

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“Together for 24, legal for 5”

Since: Sep 07

Littleton, NH

#1 Mar 15, 2013
First, only the hopelessly optimistic would expect any change in the RCC's stance on gay or women's issues in the short- or medium-terms. The best we can hope for is a de-emphasis of the social issues that are dividing the church. We also may see the church's arguments restated, providing a pathway to future (far future) reform.

Second, one would have expected the battle against SSM in Argentina, no matter who the bishop was. We have witnessed the Vatican has orchestrating the end of Catholic Charities in various localities as retribution for recognizing same-sex couples--even with civil unions. These were not choices of the local clergy or parishioners: They were ordered from the very top.

So I find myself mildly optimistic that the Roman Catholic Church will improve on social issues. But that sets a very low bar.
david traversa

Villa Angelica, Argentina

#2 Mar 15, 2013
From the aristocratic lips of His Holiness the following pearl of wisdom has fallen : " Those who don't believe in God must believe in the Devil " ; which leaves only one option : NOT BELIEVING IN EITHER .. So cheer up , you who may be torn between a choice ..

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#3 Mar 15, 2013
I don't think there will be ANY changes as far as the RCC's stand on equal rights is concerned. They have simply NEVER been in favor of equal rights and still aren't.

The Protestant Reformation is one of the things that helped bring about secular republics and democracy, particularly in the U.S., as we have historically been a Protestant-majority country in stark contrast to many European countries which have been historically-Roman Catholic.

And the Roman Catholic Church has supported monarchies for centuries, as well as opposing secular republics and a separation of church and state. Remember that The Vatican IS a sovereign, independent nation, and that as one of many titles, the Pope IS a Head Of State. Hence they do NOT have a separation of church and state.

Also, for well more tahn 100 years, federal law prohbited ANY diplomatic relations between teh U.S. and The Vatican, as doing so is a clear violation of the Firts Amendment. Unfortunately, this law was repealed by teh Democrats (who are always demanding a absolute separation of church and state) in congress in the 1980's.

For teh very first time in U.S. history, Te Obamaniac is gong to send an OFFICIAL U.S. delegation to the Pope's installation. I believe this is an absolute violation of teh First Amendment, and a direct attack on our U.S. Constitution by the Obamaniac, and shows tat the Obamaniac has NO regard, nor understanding of teh U.S. Constitution. The Obamaniac is "Evil, PURE EVILĀ®".

Uve

Since: Nov 12

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#4 Mar 16, 2013
Rachel Maddow just did a piece on this:

http://www.towleroad.com/2013/03/maddowpope.h...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#5 Mar 16, 2013
Uve wrote:
Rachel Maddow just did a piece on this:
http://www.towleroad.com/2013/03/maddowpope.h...
MADCOW is a Marxist-Leninist-Lesbo.

Uve

Since: Nov 12

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#6 Mar 16, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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MADCOW is a Marxist-Leninist-Lesbo.
As a gay man you're pathetic...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#7 Mar 16, 2013
Uve wrote:
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As a gay man you're pathetic...
So you're saying that as a gay man, i MUST be a Marxist-Leninist Lesbo ?

(As I've said here at least a thousand times, I'm a Libertarian. GO RAND PAUL & ROB PORTMAN ! SMASH THE EVIL DEMOCRATS !:))

Uve

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#8 Mar 16, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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So you're saying that as a gay man, i MUST be a Marxist-Leninist Lesbo ?
(As I've said here at least a thousand times, I'm a Libertarian. GO RAND PAUL & ROB PORTMAN ! SMASH THE EVIL DEMOCRATS !:))
Make up whatever you want..the more you post the more pathetic it gets.. You really think RAND PAUL & ROB PORTMAN or any republican't has your best interest?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#9 Mar 16, 2013
Uve wrote:
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Make up whatever you want..the more you post the more pathetic it gets.. You really think RAND PAUL & ROB PORTMAN or any republican't has your best interest?
Yup !

:)
Huey

Cleburne, TX

#10 Mar 17, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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MADCOW is a Marxist-Leninist-Lesbo.
You rock, Foxy Dude!!!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Mar 17, 2013
I used to rock and roll all night and party every day !:)

Then later it was every other day.:(

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