Gunman Killed Firemen With Bushmaster, Left...

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Firefighters were called to a house fire in Webster, N.Y. on Dec. 24, 2012, only to find a gunman. Full Story
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NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#62 Dec 27, 2012
Skeptic14 wrote:
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I think you are sadly mistaken my friend. Very few seminal events in this life happen by accident. I am afraid this is a followup to Aurora/Sikh Temple/Newtown to cement the "fear" that will lead us to the new gun-grabbing law that they ALREADY WROTE (just like the Patriot Act before 9/11). I would LOVE to see the cops release the 911 tape of the FIRST call - the one that this Spengler supposedly made to report the fire. But they won't, because it wasn't him. And this old jail-bird decided to TYPE a suicide note? And he included no motive? And he said "killing people" is what he likes to do most? He killed one old battleaxe 30 years ago - with a hammer...how the hell does he love it?
Yeh, the type written suicide note/manifesto has me questioning things as well. Does he have a history of typing letters? Was he a jailbird lawyer typing briefs for himself and others? And why supposedly no trouble with the law since killing his grandmother and all the sudden he wants to act out 3 1/2 DECADES later?
Clem

Hamilton, Canada

#63 Dec 27, 2012
NOTthechildren wrote:
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Yeh, the type written suicide note/manifesto has me questioning things as well. Does he have a history of typing letters? Was he a jailbird lawyer typing briefs for himself and others? And why supposedly no trouble with the law since killing his grandmother and all the sudden he wants to act out 3 1/2 DECADES later?
The government put thoughts into his head 35 years ago. They clawed into his brain back then. The constant pounding of nails into his head caused him to bend and kill his grandmother. The operation was known as George-Bush-Master. If he had worn a tin-foil hat this would of never happened. He had to type letters because the keyboard on his computer was controlled by aliens.

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Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#64 Dec 28, 2012
German guy wrote:
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Sorry, but I'm talking about our reality.
Of course we've got crime, but less than you and without everybody armed.
I really don't think the possession of arms has anything to do with criminal intent. Look at the Swiss, they issue EVERY adult male an assault weapon and they don't have a high rate of violent crime. It's the PEOPLE and their desire to do violence that create the problems. Until we learn how to detect and control or "cure" violent aggression in unstable people we will be vulnerable to these heinous crimes. Timothy McVeigh didn't use a gun but still managed to act out his evil intent. Can we logically expect the violence to stop if firearms are abolished? No, we can't. We can expect the bad guys to find another tool. The really bad part about that is; they may find a better even more destructive tool..........like McVeigh did. We should send our energy searching for a means to detect and prevent rather than disarming honest law abiding citizens. IMHO.
truth Always beats lIes23

Covington, VA

#65 Dec 28, 2012
Skeptic14 wrote:
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That is exactly right. Colorado witnesses said more than one person in the theater (and Holmes was plopped into his car in the same stupor he is still in); Sikh Temple witnesses said 4 white shooters; Newtown is up in the air but I have little doubt this kid was a patsy, one way or the other; and now THIS. Has anyone released the ORIGINAL 911 call - the one where this Spengler patsy supposedly called in the fire? Of course not. This is the 9/11 playbook on a smaller scale. As the Patriot Act was waiting in their back pockets, so is the gun grabbing law that will be passed by mid-January. Very obvious.
Very well said!!!
NOTthechildren

Bryn Mawr, PA

#66 Dec 30, 2012
And in this 'rambling' typed suicide note he just happens to tell authorities that he got the guns from his neighbor.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/29/police-chri...

If legit it sounds like he tried dating this female neighbor and she rebuffed him or broke off 'a' short relationship.

Still a little to convenient especially for an excon who spent over a decade in prison to rat somebody out especially when he's openly committing the ultimate crime.

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