Albemarle Volunteer Fire Crews Fighting 15-Year-Old Policy

There are 11 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Mar 30, 2013, titled Albemarle Volunteer Fire Crews Fighting 15-Year-Old Policy. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

Albemarle volunteer fire crews are fighting a policy battle. Currently paid and career firefighters in the county are not allowed to volunteer with any of the unpaid volunteer fire departments.

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Common Sense

Madison, VA

#1 Apr 3, 2013
So when the volunteer firefighter gets upset with the volunteer organization and asks to get paid for his time, who will it hurt then? That's right, taxpayers! You think it couldn't happen? Do your research!
Wondering

Charlottesville, VA

#2 Apr 3, 2013
Why is this policy in place in the first place? What is the reasoning behind paid or career Firemen not being able to volunteer in the area they live? Henry, you could have expained this in a bit more detail.
Really

Charlottesville, VA

#3 Apr 3, 2013
Common Sense wrote:
So when the volunteer firefighter gets upset with the volunteer organization and asks to get paid for his time, who will it hurt then? That's right, taxpayers! You think it couldn't happen? Do your research!
hey it's volunteer idiot I'm sure if they don't like it they will quit an they come in knowing its volunteer so they know there they are not going to get paid. What usually happen is they move from one station to another. Where do you get your facts from
Really

Charlottesville, VA

#4 Apr 3, 2013
And just a side note (common sense) if not for the volunteers taxpayers would have to worry about it because the demand of paid firefighters will more than triple.
Common Sense

Madison, VA

#5 Apr 3, 2013
Think about this, if there were enough volunteers to do the job there would be no career staffing. Get more volunteers to volunteer and get rid of the career staff. Simple solution!
Amazing

Charlottesville, VA

#6 Apr 3, 2013
This story said absolutely nothing. Half a&& reporting...
Local View 9

Baltimore, MD

#7 Apr 3, 2013
There is a news story here, but it is poorly presented. The issue is not new across the country. The county was ask to make a ruling on this issue nearly 10 years ago on behalf of the rescue squads as many of the new paid medic staff was being pulled from the volunteer rescue squads. (Note, the county did not have ambulances at that time) Some of those medics still wanted to volunteer on the rescue squads. They are still waiting on an answer, that they will never get.
Seriously

Charlottesville, VA

#8 Apr 3, 2013
I think that if someone is willing to volunteer their time during their OFF time as a paid firefighter/medic for the county, it should be allowed. I think this is just a control issue for the county trying to push out all of the volunteers.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#9 Apr 3, 2013
If their paid and have a fulltime position, how about spending time with their families. What do the volunteers think about this?

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#10 Apr 3, 2013
If this had been written properly, it would have addressed the FLSA( Fair Labor Standards Act)

Employees may not "volunteer" to do similar work for the same employer without the time being counted as FLSA work time. Firefighters may not perform "additional" fire related activities for their employers without that time being included as hours worked for FLSA pay computation purposes. Also, employees who work "two jobs" for the same employer must aggregate their total hours worked for FLSA pay purposes. For example, a fire fighter who works 40 hours as a firefighter and an additional 20 hours as an animal control officer has a total of 60 FLSA hours worked. Employees are permitted to work "moonlighting" jobs -- for separate employers -- without the hours being aggregated. Employees may sometimes work for "joint employers," such as when they are assigned to a "task force." In such cases, each employer is equally liable to be sure FLSA wages are paid properly.

In short, you can't volunteer where you get paid.There are a large number of local career fire members however that do volunteer outside of the area, and vice versa.
Local View 9

Baltimore, MD

#11 Apr 3, 2013
Laughing at the fools wrote:
If this had been written properly, it would have addressed the FLSA( Fair Labor Standards Act)
Employees may not "volunteer" to do similar work for the same employer without the time being counted as FLSA work time. Firefighters may not perform "additional" fire related activities for their employers without that time being included as hours worked for FLSA pay computation purposes. Also, employees who work "two jobs" for the same employer must aggregate their total hours worked for FLSA pay purposes. For example, a fire fighter who works 40 hours as a firefighter and an additional 20 hours as an animal control officer has a total of 60 FLSA hours worked. Employees are permitted to work "moonlighting" jobs -- for separate employers -- without the hours being aggregated. Employees may sometimes work for "joint employers," such as when they are assigned to a "task force." In such cases, each employer is equally liable to be sure FLSA wages are paid properly.
In short, you can't volunteer where you get paid.There are a large number of local career fire members however that do volunteer outside of the area, and vice versa.
This has been a long battle in the state of Maryland with paid vs volunteer firefighter. In 2009, the department of labor ruled that you can be volunteer and be paid in the same system. http://mobile.firehouse.com/article/10545205/...

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