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Greenbrier County fire and emergency responders say

There are 195 comments on the Appalachian Journal story from Feb 1, 2013, titled Greenbrier County fire and emergency responders say. In it, Appalachian Journal reports that:

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Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#61 Feb 14, 2013
We are all adult's and should be able to discuss this in a civil manner without name calling. Like I have said before, I have been a vol. Firefighter here in the County for years and I don't begrudge them getting added funding. I do however protest a Tax Levy on the Citizens of Greenbrier County when the County Commision can give 1.5 Million dollars away for a pool we can't swim in. And the amount is not reasonable either and the way they dispurse the the money to the department's isn't fair. There should also be a detailed list of what can and cannot be purchased with the money....To many thing's don't add up. I really don't like This special election. Like one said, I am sure their problems didn't happen over night so why couldn't this have been put on the General Election ballot. This is Pretty underhanded polotic's if you ask me. I have to say I am mighty ashamed. Not just at our local Govorment, who are supposed to work for the People, By the People, but also the Firefighters trying to slide this in on a special election, to me it's Totally unethical....
easy

United States

#62 Feb 14, 2013
Bryant, you obviously haven't taken the time to educate yourself on the Levy. Everything you have an issue with has been spelled out in the paperwork. Also I agree with the county commission swimming pool. The only problem is that money came from the hotel/motel bed tax, and those funds can only be used for tourism and the like.
lived in gbr

Princeton, WV

#63 Feb 15, 2013
but the money can olny be used on county owned property or for tourism like you said ( bryant ) you know it sounds good to have a pool but again it's apool that not all people will or can use and the county does not own the property >>>>...
Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#64 Feb 15, 2013
Well(Easy) your obviously for new taxes for the county reguardless if they can afford it or not? The fact is whether I am Educated about the situation or not it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see some shady work going on when this should have came up durring the General election. And about the swimming pool (lived in Gbr) is right, the county doesn't own the property therefore the money should not be spent on it. I still say "No New Taxes".
easy

United States

#65 Feb 15, 2013
Bryant wrote:
Well(Easy) your obviously for new taxes for the county reguardless if they can afford it or not? The fact is whether I am Educated about the situation or not it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see some shady work going on when this should have came up durring the General election. And about the swimming pool (lived in Gbr) is right, the county doesn't own the property therefore the money should not be spent on it. I still say "No New Taxes".
In an earlier post, it was stated that the money used on a swimming pool be used to fund the VFDs of the county. And the way I see it, people support the FD by paying dues, but not everybody pays. This way 100% of the community its paying, and collection of dues from the FD will stop. It really its no different if you already pay dues.
Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#66 Feb 15, 2013
Well it's been my experience for years because I actually hand delivered the fire dues for a time, our department basically knew who could afford to pay and who couldn't. The one's we felt couldn't afford it, we didn't worry about. We just worked a little harder trying to collect money from boot drive's ect. After all isn't that what volunteering is all about, helping out your community? In my earlier Post I did say the money going for the swimming pool should be divided up between the departments, at least the money would be beneficial to the whole community. I have never said the VFD's should not receive extra funding, I am all for it but to force another tax on the people of Greenbrier county isn't the way to do it!! I Still Stand by that!
Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#67 Feb 15, 2013
I took this sentence from "OLD MAN" (People I know and grew up with served their communities without complaining or whining. They did it (me included)because it was the right thing to do.
If VFDs are training their people to take money from those they serve--SHAME ON THEM!!

Very well said.........
lame

Princeton, WV

#68 Feb 15, 2013
Bryant wrote:
Well it's been my experience for years because I actually hand delivered the fire dues for a time, our department basically knew who could afford to pay and who couldn't. The one's we felt couldn't afford it, we didn't worry about. We just worked a little harder trying to collect money from boot drive's ect. After all isn't that what volunteering is all about, helping out your community? In my earlier Post I did say the money going for the swimming pool should be divided up between the departments, at least the money would be beneficial to the whole community. I have never said the VFD's should not receive extra funding, I am all for it but to force another tax on the people of Greenbrier county isn't the way to do it!! I Still Stand by that!
First of all, I agree completely with not taking from those who cannot afford it. But with a tax, that is impossible. But what about the ones who CAN afford it and just choose not to? Does that make it right because they just don't want to pay? And yes I agree about the swimming pool money, there are hundreds of projects that it could be invested in the county but because of the law it cannot be used in these ways. And just because I may be a volunteer my safety isn't as important as a member of the FDNY? That is exactly how it sounds. Just because I don't get paid to go into YOUR burning home, I shouldn't be able to have the same training and equipment as a paid professional? I'm sorry, but that is just bull. And as far as your last statement from old man, nothing in life is free, NOTHING. Because we are asking people to come up with 50 to 75 dollars more a year we are wrong? Approx. one third pay fire dues which are usually right around 50 dollars a year, and with this levy, everybody would pay, not just one out of three people. I just don't understand your gripe.
lives in fayette county

Winfield, WV

#69 Feb 15, 2013
SPECIFICALLY FOR LAME. THE GRIPE IS THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD THAT MUCH OF A TAX INCREASE ON THEIR PROPERTY!!!!!!!!
Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#70 Feb 15, 2013
I will say it again! Listen, My gripe is not for VFD's to have added funds, I know they need it for equp. unkeep, utilities ect. What I don't like are the people of Greenbrier couty forced to pay a tax when some can't afford it. Doesn't make sense to have a $200,000.00 truck sitting in the Bay of your VFD while your taking food off some child's table that barely has enough to eat already. To me Volunteering is about heart. When I was a Volunteer I would pay my dues also even though members didn't have to, to pick up the slack for those I know couldn't afford them, I know alot of other people have to. I have said my piece and those of you who do not agree have that right. I stand by "NO NEW TAXES". Those of you who want to read more into what I have said that's your perogative.
Bryant

Snowshoe, WV

#71 Feb 15, 2013
lives in fayette county wrote:
SPECIFICALLY FOR LAME. THE GRIPE IS THAT NOT EVERYONE CAN AFFORD THAT MUCH OF A TAX INCREASE ON THEIR PROPERTY!!!!!!!!
Thank you...That is right!
lived in gbr

Princeton, WV

#72 Feb 15, 2013
{lame }FDNY i guess that you have your head on upside down and in the wrong place also ..The FDNY is apaid fire department not volunteer HOW do I know Used to live there.....
Your Kidding

Snowshoe, WV

#73 Feb 15, 2013
Lame???Now your comparing us to FDNY? Seriously?lol
The main gripe on here is not all resident's can afford a Tax increase...don't add to what people say just so you can have an argument because you feel guilty about it. If you don't know what your talking about, stay out of it.........get back on your Meds.
Not Now

Rupert, WV

#74 Feb 15, 2013
FYI - The tax / levy imposed on some citizens / companies in Greenbrier County could exceed 40k a year... Not necessarily 100 dollars or less. Plus, tell us the annual salary of the proposed "Fire Commissioner"? I heard the amount was enough to choke a horse... Math is wrong! Timing is wrong... Just plain smells WRONG...
lame

Princeton, WV

#75 Feb 15, 2013
First of all, there is no comparison to the FDNY. Maybe you all should study the post just a little closer instead of jumping to conclusions. All I said is that every firefighter all the way from a volunteer that only runs 100 calls a year to the FDNY members should have the same right to safety. And I agree with the tax issue, but Bryant, what is your solution then, because boot drives and dues mailings isn't cutting it anymore? And Your Kidding, I didn't add a thing to what anybody said. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody will address my points, just take a piece of it and try to make something out of it that its not.

Lastly, how many of you voted on this school levy that we got screwed on? But there is no gripe about that is there?
Your Kidding

Snowshoe, WV

#76 Feb 15, 2013
Not Now wrote:
FYI - The tax / levy imposed on some citizens / companies in Greenbrier County could exceed 40k a year... Not necessarily 100 dollars or less. Plus, tell us the annual salary of the proposed "Fire Commissioner"? I heard the amount was enough to choke a horse... Math is wrong! Timing is wrong... Just plain smells WRONG...
Yes, Please tell us....Stink's pretty bad to me too!!
lame

Princeton, WV

#77 Feb 15, 2013
Not Now wrote:
FYI - The tax / levy imposed on some citizens / companies in Greenbrier County could exceed 40k a year... Not necessarily 100 dollars or less. Plus, tell us the annual salary of the proposed "Fire Commissioner"? I heard the amount was enough to choke a horse... Math is wrong! Timing is wrong... Just plain smells WRONG...
I'm curious to know what you mean, I don't know anybody that would be paying 40,000 dollars for fire protection.
Your Kidding

Snowshoe, WV

#78 Feb 15, 2013
lame wrote:
First of all, there is no comparison to the FDNY. Maybe you all should study the post just a little closer instead of jumping to conclusions. All I said is that every firefighter all the way from a volunteer that only runs 100 calls a year to the FDNY members should have the same right to safety. And I agree with the tax issue, but Bryant, what is your solution then, because boot drives and dues mailings isn't cutting it anymore? And Your Kidding, I didn't add a thing to what anybody said. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Nobody will address my points, just take a piece of it and try to make something out of it that its not.
Lastly, how many of you voted on this school levy that we got screwed on? But there is no gripe about that is there?
If you will look at my past post's, I have complained about the School bond Levy and how I didn't support a special election. To be honest, if this fire levy had been introduced before this School bond levy was, it would have passed with flying color's. But now that the voter's have caught on to their tactic's they don't appreciate it and justifiable so. Second of all you ask what my solution is. How about knowone making under $20,000.00 with a household of 4 or more pay any dues. I just want to make sure the very families we're supposed to be protecting, we're not hurting in other way's. How about forming a commitee to investigate way's of additional funding for VFD's.

Since: Feb 13

Ansted, WV

#79 Feb 15, 2013
You guys should be commended for your help, and you should get paid.
Not Now

Rupert, WV

#80 Feb 15, 2013
lame wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm curious to know what you mean, I don't know anybody that would be paying 40,000 dollars for fire protection.
Don't forget this levy is based on current Real and Personal property taxes so, a large landowner with many acres of pasture or timberland pays more... Again, just another reason why those who stand to benefit from this levy chose to have the election on March 2, 2013...

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