Police: House explosion was not an accident

Nov 19, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WTTV Indianapolis

Fox59 News has learned that Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department homicide detectives have determined that the Nov.

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Whaddaknow

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I like most of the comments that are on topic, so I won't quote one over the other. What I want to add is the interference it seems the ex husband is throwing out there publicly. It may just be a case where the media searched him out before investigators did and his comments went public. I just find it odd that the ex was front and center immediately after the explosion.
I don't think it was odd...very likely, the house was still in his name. Or if it wasn't, it is still proper procedure for LE to question closest relatives and acquaintances in an investigation. We have no idea what kind of a person he is, but it appears that he had nothing to do with this crime, IMO. One can't blame him for 'going public' in order to clear his name.
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I don't think it was odd...very likely, the house was still in his name. Or if it wasn't, it is still proper procedure for LE to question closest relatives and acquaintances in an investigation. We have no idea what kind of a person he is, but it appears that he had nothing to do with this crime, IMO. One can't blame him for 'going public' in order to clear his name.
Good points. I did read that his name was still on the deed, but his ex wife had taken on the sole financial responsibility for the house in their divorce decree. That was assuming that the bankruptcy petition would continue and be granted. It wasn't. Apparently, the ex wife quit making the house payments to the bankruptcy trustee, which in turn threw out the petition.
The situation, as I see it, has the ex husband off the hook financially with the divorce petition, but not with the lending institution. His name is still on the deed. I'm trying not to read too much into this, but apparently the ex husband had as much to gain from the house being destroyed as the ex wife had.
Is that why you imply there was a need for him to "clear his name"? I think it odd that he felt that need, given that his ex had a restraining order against him and allegedly had not been around the house for months and months.
I didn't see the ex husband's public statements as clearing his name. He was casting suspicion on the furnace, which could be seen as an attempt to clear anyone and everyone of wrongdoing.
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Good points. I did read that his name was still on the deed, but his ex wife had taken on the sole financial responsibility for the house in their divorce decree. That was assuming that the bankruptcy petition would continue and be granted. It wasn't. Apparently, the ex wife quit making the house payments to the bankruptcy trustee, which in turn threw out the petition.
The situation, as I see it, has the ex husband off the hook financially with the divorce petition, but not with the lending institution. His name is still on the deed. I'm trying not to read too much into this, but apparently the ex husband had as much to gain from the house being destroyed as the ex wife had.
Is that why you imply there was a need for him to "clear his name"? I think it odd that he felt that need, given that his ex had a restraining order against him and allegedly had not been around the house for months and months.
I didn't see the ex husband's public statements as clearing his name. He was casting suspicion on the furnace, which could be seen as an attempt to clear anyone and everyone of wrongdoing.
Excellent thoughts; you may be correct - either man could be responsible. But maybe all three conspired together in order to get the burden of that house off of their backs. In which case, each individual will try to distance themselves from the other publicly. I just think it would be a little too coincidental for the daughter to be safely at a friends house, the cat in a cozy (?)kennel, and Ms.Shirley and lover off to the casinos when Mr. Ex decided to pull this off without the others knowing about it in advance. Just my opinion.
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Again I say IF they were not responsible someone set them up really good. But seems everything is pointing to them. And all us cat people know you just would not board one for a night. And the IDIOT Ms Shirley saying she boarded it because if it was at home alone would get anxiety. Did someone really intend to blow up that entire area? I have no clue about explosives but wouldn't you know a little from alot?
Some of us don't like animals roaming around our house unsupervised. Anytime I have ever had a cat or a dog I kennel it even if it is just overnight. Besides that we've got alarm sensors that would be tripped by the animal movement.
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Some of us don't like animals roaming around our house unsupervised. Anytime I have ever had a cat or a dog I kennel it even if it is just overnight. Besides that we've got alarm sensors that would be tripped by the animal movement.
I am always leery of kennels/boarders; I know all the animals have to have up to date vaccination records, but I have had friends whose pets died from being in a kennel because of catching a fatal disease that vaccinations didn't prevent - but hopefully that is rare.

One nice thing about our kitty - she is so paranoid around strangers that we have had guests stay for two or three days and couldn't believe we had one. She is known as the "phantom cat" LOL!
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Some of us don't like animals roaming around our house unsupervised. Anytime I have ever had a cat or a dog I kennel it even if it is just overnight. Besides that we've got alarm sensors that would be tripped by the animal movement.
Understand. My point was only that never seen any animal have more anxiety at home and less in a kennel. Esp a cat.
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The people who are responsible for this horrible crime better put their head between thier legs, and kiss their ass goodbye. They are going to prison for a very long time. They deserve whatever punishment they get.
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The people who are responsible for this horrible crime better put their head between thier legs, and kiss their ass goodbye. They are going to prison for a very long time. They deserve whatever punishment they get.
Well, unless one of them has a past criminal history,you can pretty well bet how the trial will go. Their attorney will plead for a lesser charge of manslaughter because they didn't intend to actually kill anyone, Yadayada.. then they will go to the clinker for maybe five years, then they will get off earlier for good behavior. Two innocent people dead, the neighborhood basically destroyed, and lives changed forever.
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So they have the boyfriends brother-that lived with him and Moncy Shirley-and another guy in custody.Alot of news breaking right now.The gas in her house was wide open since mid afternoon on the day of the explosion. And none of them home at the time. But two guys running from the house to rhe white van. Somebody is in deep deep sh^t.
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The boyfriend has quite a record.
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Obviously, they better look at the hospital where she worked to make sure no one mysteriously died while under her "nursing" care. This is one evil "nurse."
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The boyfriend has quite a record.
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Well, unless one of them has a past criminal history,you can pretty well bet how the trial will go. Their attorney will plead for a lesser charge of manslaughter because they didn't intend to actually kill anyone, Yadayada.. then they will go to the clinker for maybe five years, then they will get off earlier for good behavior. Two innocent people dead, the neighborhood basically destroyed, and lives changed forever.
I agree. I live in Fort Wayne and we had a guy last Christmas murder a little girl and then he dismembered her little body. He was given a plea barren for his confession. Life no possibility of parole. I guess that is a big sentance for a lot of folks, except he was a career criminal and that is where he likes to be. So what kind of punishment is that.
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I like most of the comments that are on topic, so I won't quote one over the other. What I want to add is the interference it seems the ex husband is throwing out there publicly. It may just be a case where the media searched him out before investigators did and his comments went public. I just find it odd that the ex was front and center immediately after the explosion.
Not to mention the fact that she has a restraining order against him
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It was the brother of the boy friend who owns a white van and known to be an insurance scammer. A friend of mine told me he would pick a drunk guy at the bar and follow him untill he could crash into him and collect the money.
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Excellent thoughts; you may be correct - either man could be responsible. But maybe all three conspired together in order to get the burden of that house off of their backs. In which case, each individual will try to distance themselves from the other publicly. I just think it would be a little too coincidental for the daughter to be safely at a friends house, the cat in a cozy (?)kennel, and Ms.Shirley and lover off to the casinos when Mr. Ex decided to pull this off without the others knowing about it in advance. Just my opinion.
A lot of people have been hit hard with this recession we're in. Many have lost jobs and many have lost their homes to foreclosure. Stressful times, for sure.
That being said, it doesn't appear that this can be applied to this family. A nurse wouldn't feel the effects of a recession like other professions. The ex husband's finances shouldn't come into play because he effectively washed his hands of the month to month expense in the divorce settlement. Their money problems seem to originate from poor decision making.
Like everyone else, I'm trying to comprehend the thought process that it would take to burn a house down, let alone blow one up. It leads me to believe that the persons responsible for this were just plain stupid. They didn't intend to blow the neighborhood up. They only intended to burn a house down and not get caught. As it goes with stupid people, things went horribly wrong. Innocent people died.
I've been told to check out Fox 59's Facebook page. I haven't yet, but will.
Apparently, the boyfriend is the owner of the van. His brother and friend have had their places of residence raided by SWAT teams and personal items belonging to the boyfriend and nurse were being stored at one of the locations. One of the idiots will talk, implicating the others, when faced with murder charges.
The boyfriend is going down. Who goes with him is the only question on my part right now. I would like to hope that the nurse was duped into believing this would be simple and no one would get hurt. It all goes back to stupidity.
Hang 'em. Hang all of them.
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It was the brother of the boy friend who owns a white van and known to be an insurance scammer. A friend of mine told me he would pick a drunk guy at the bar and follow him untill he could crash into him and collect the money.
That's just flippin' scary.
Isn't there some kind of law that puts the liquor establishment on the hook when an intoxicated patron leaves and is in an accident?
Dramshop Act, or something like that......
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These people are worse than scum. I'm sick of that fake whining cry she has everytime the camera is on her and her bleached blond trash boyfriend. The amount of destruction and the young couple that lost their lives just makes me sick. And for what? Because your house didn't sell? I hope the brother does not take the fall. They all need to serve tome.
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The boyfriend was in charge of keeping up the old Hoiday Inn at 31 and 465. There are several pics of his van sitting there. And swat got his brother at a west side-mars hill- trailer park where his neighbors ratted him out as to the white van being there for quite some time. The brother even went to the neighbors in the trailer park trying to tell them what to say if questioned.
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That's just flippin' scary.
Isn't there some kind of law that puts the liquor establishment on the hook when an intoxicated patron leaves and is in an accident?
Dramshop Act, or something like that......
And how many patrons leave a bar totally sober? A large person who has had one drink would probably fare OK to drive. Bars/taverns of course started years ago before the automobile. People could stagger out of a bar, fumble and climb on their horse, and it would take them home. Makes one wonder if all establishments serving alcoholic beverages will someday be a thing of the past?
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These people are worse than scum. I'm sick of that fake whining cry she has everytime the camera is on her and her bleached blond trash boyfriend. The amount of destruction and the young couple that lost their lives just makes me sick. And for what? Because your house didn't sell? I hope the brother does not take the fall. They all need to serve tome.
It sounds to me that all of them need to take the fall. Where there's smoke, there's fire...(no pun intended).. IMO the three of them are low life's; throw the book at them, I say.

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