Fire chief to ask Civil Service Commissio to remove 30-minute residency requirement for firefighters

Jan 27, 2013 Full story: EParis Extra 39

Paris fire chief Larry Wright is taking a step this week toward increasing the number of minority firefighters in the department.

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cash

Blossom, TX

#1 Jan 27, 2013
shop local
Not nut

United States

#2 Jan 27, 2013
What's the matter? Was a hour to much?
Lol

Rockwall, TX

#3 Jan 28, 2013
cash wrote:
shop local
cash is a dumbazz. Hey a rhyme.
Suggestion

Paris, TX

#4 Jan 29, 2013
I would feel much better if the idea was to recruit the best regardless of what color or gender they are. I have a problem with saying, "We're going to go out and recruit some blacks and hispanics and women," when what should be said is, "We're going to go out and recruit the best and brightest and most physically fit firefighters we can."
BBHC

Spring, TX

#5 Jan 29, 2013
Suggestion wrote:
I would feel much better if the idea was to recruit the best regardless of what color or gender they are. I have a problem with saying, "We're going to go out and recruit some blacks and hispanics and women," when what should be said is, "We're going to go out and recruit the best and brightest and most physically fit firefighters we can."
That's not what he said. He said he wanted to reach out to those groups to "come in and test." That means come in and take the test. You flunk, well thanks for stopping by. You pass, then onto the next level of evaluation. Far from being a slam dunk guarantee of employment.
cash

Blossom, TX

#6 Jan 29, 2013
can paris residents still apply
Suggestion

Paris, TX

#7 Jan 29, 2013
BBHC wrote:
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That's not what he said. He said he wanted to reach out to those groups to "come in and test." That means come in and take the test. You flunk, well thanks for stopping by. You pass, then onto the next level of evaluation. Far from being a slam dunk guarantee of employment.
I think they already do that -- so far as I know, when they post a notice, they do not preclude blacks, hispanics, and women from reading them and applying. "Reach out" is so cliched! If blacks, hispanics, and women want those jobs, why don't they "reach out" and go for them?
cash

Blossom, TX

#8 Jan 29, 2013
buy local hire out of town
BBHC

Spring, TX

#9 Jan 29, 2013
Suggestion wrote:
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I think they already do that -- so far as I know, when they post a notice, they do not preclude blacks, hispanics, and women from reading them and applying. "Reach out" is so cliched! If blacks, hispanics, and women want those jobs, why don't they "reach out" and go for them?
Thus the call to eliminate the 30 minute rule. With the rule gone, PFD can cast a wider net for recruits.
cash

Blossom, TX

#10 Jan 29, 2013
hire local
Daisy

Paris, TX

#11 Jan 30, 2013
BBHC wrote:
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Thus the call to eliminate the 30 minute rule. With the rule gone, PFD can cast a wider net for recruits.
So if the 30 minute rule is only to get the best, the brightest, and the fittest, why was race and gender introduced into the equation?
BBHC

Spring, TX

#12 Jan 30, 2013
Daisy wrote:
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So if the 30 minute rule is only to get the best, the brightest, and the fittest, why was race and gender introduced into the equation?
Because lagging race and gender representation has long been evident in public safety institutions so yes, a fire chef would also have that on his mind in recruiting as well.
They might know

Paris, TX

#13 Jan 31, 2013
BBHC wrote:
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Because lagging race and gender representation has long been evident in public safety institutions so yes, a fire chef would also have that on his mind in recruiting as well.
Then he's not looking for the best, the brightest, and the fittest -- he's looking for the black, the hispanic, and the woman. You can't have it both ways. True non-discrimination doesn't inject race or gender in any sense into the equation.
Question

Paris, TX

#14 Jan 31, 2013
Fire Dept is civil service. The people that score the highest on the civil service exam get the job. Has nothing to do with race or gender, just person with highest score gets the job.
BBHC

Spring, TX

#15 Jan 31, 2013
They might know wrote:
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Then he's not looking for the best, the brightest, and the fittest -- he's looking for the black, the hispanic, and the woman. You can't have it both ways. True non-discrimination doesn't inject race or gender in any sense into the equation.
Wrong. It is possible to walk and chew gum, it's just much easier when you expand your pool of eligibles. Ask any corporate, academic, or athletic recruiter.
cash

Blossom, TX

#16 Feb 1, 2013
put paris first hire local
LMAO

Paris, TX

#17 Feb 1, 2013
cash wrote:
put paris first hire local
Cash is clueless as usual.
Daisy

Paris, TX

#18 Feb 1, 2013
BBHC wrote:
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Wrong. It is possible to walk and chew gum, it's just much easier when you expand your pool of eligibles. Ask any corporate, academic, or athletic recruiter.
We're talking location here -- not race or gender. Hispanics, blacks, and women have been eligible for years, so the pool isn't being expanded in that regard. Again, I say, if it's only about the best, the brightest, and the fittest, why inject race and gender into it?
cash

Blossom, TX

#19 Feb 1, 2013
LMAO wrote:
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Cash is clueless as usual.
ok i give up hire people who lve out of town and county
cash

Blossom, TX

#20 Feb 1, 2013
cass wins by a landslide

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