Public's help sought as hydrants remain snowbound across St. Lawrence County

There are 20 comments on the Dec 31, 2012, Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal story titled Public's help sought as hydrants remain snowbound across St. Lawrence County. In it, Ogdensburg Courier-Observer/Journal reports that:

Streets and highways around St. Lawrence County are mostly clear following last week's snowstorm, but officials in Canton and other communities are still working to dig out fire hydrants, and they're looking for a helping hand from the public.

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nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#22 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>We have had a lot of bad storms where the hydrants have been cleared because our taxes already pay for that. I don't want something for nothing, I want what I have already paid for. How exactly do you think the hydrants have been cleared preciously. I can't believe you are ignorant enough to be saying these things. Let me know where you live, I will charge you to clear your driveway and then not do it and then on top of it tell you you have to do it yourself, pure ignorance on your part. Why would you do something yourself when you have already paid to have it done, only an idiot would do that. Get your shovel out and start clearing all of them seeing you want to pay for something and then do it yourself anyways. That will never happen I bet you haven't even cleared the one closest to your house and definitely not your neighbors, all talk not action. If my house burns down because the DPW didn't do their job that they have already been paid to do then my wallet is going to get a lot fatter, if you know what I mean. Insurance companies are always looking for someone to alleviate their financial liability, so, if the DPW doesn't do their job the insurance company will go after them to recoup their loss and then I will sue them for damages, pain and suffering. It's been five days since the storm why aren't even the main road hydrants cleared already. We just paid almost $100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, where are they hiding it.
We did not pay 100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, why would we, in this city, everyone is responsible for shovling thier own sidewalk. You just talking out of your ass. Nobody cares what you have to say anyways.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#23 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>I already paid the DPW to do it, if my house burns down they are liable for it. Anyone who wishes that someone dies in a fire is no one, any one, should be listening to. It shows your moral character, which apparently you don't have any. What about all the senior citizens that can't do it, I suppose you think they should all die too, what kind of a person are you. We pay taxes so things like that don't happen and you are wishing it on people, talk about a scumbag, loser.
I am the type of person who wishes for you to die in a house fire, because you would rather type on topix, the go and shovel your own fire hydrant. I hope all of your family photo's burn, and then you just might be wishing that you would have shoveled. Your just and old fart who isn't very happy in life, and you think that people care what you have to say, well we don't care . nobody cares.
community service

Massena, NY

#24 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>Go ahead and sue, then the taxes will go up further, and give you just a little more to bitch about.
I won't b*tch because then I will have gotten my tax money back, seeing I'm not getting what I already paid for as it is. When you hit them in their wallets they, all of a sudden, wake up and start doing what they have already been paid to do, instead of resting on their laurels.
Crazy

Massena, NY

#25 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>We have had a lot of bad storms where the hydrants have been cleared because our taxes already pay for that. I don't want something for nothing, I want what I have already paid for. How exactly do you think the hydrants have been cleared preciously. I can't believe you are ignorant enough to be saying these things. Let me know where you live, I will charge you to clear your driveway and then not do it and then on top of it tell you you have to do it yourself, pure ignorance on your part. Why would you do something yourself when you have already paid to have it done, only an idiot would do that. Get your shovel out and start clearing all of them seeing you want to pay for something and then do it yourself anyways. That will never happen I bet you haven't even cleared the one closest to your house and definitely not your neighbors, all talk not action. If my house burns down because the DPW didn't do their job that they have already been paid to do then my wallet is going to get a lot fatter, if you know what I mean. Insurance companies are always looking for someone to alleviate their financial liability, so, if the DPW doesn't do their job the insurance company will go after them to recoup their loss and then I will sue them for damages, pain and suffering. It's been five days since the storm why aren't even the main road hydrants cleared already. We just paid almost $100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, where are they hiding it.
I have watched private citizens clear there hydrants for years because DPW couldn't get to it quickly. These people did it with no complaints.
Pathetic

Middleport, NY

#26 Jan 1, 2013
2 guys could shovel out at least 12 a day. Are they doing it? The city always has excuses.
So if an older person shovels his hydrant and suffers a heart attack, who makes out. The rescue squad gets to charge an outrageous amount for a ride, the hospital gets to over charge for crappy services. People are paid to do a job, let them do it.
You won't see the mayor, city council, or cops out there doing it
Still on my High Horse

Rochester, NY

#27 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>If you don't want to take five minutes to shovel a hydrant, then don't, but don't bitch when your house burns down. We don't give a shit, if your house burns, hopefully you will be in it when it does. Maybe your hoping for a fire insurance check, all your doing is trying to beat the system. Get off of your lazy ass and go shovel.
What are the odds of your house (or any) burning down? You think a house burns up every week in the town? There'd be no homes left after a few yrs.
Why dont you go out and help an elderly female neighbor who can't shovel or someone with a heart condition clear the snow from the hydrant in front of their home. Or are you a fat worthless beer swilling loudmouth who can't back up his own pontifications?
And who is the "we" you refer to when you say you dont give a shyt? You got a mouse in your pocket?
btw - learn your and you're.
Still on my High Horse

Rochester, NY

#28 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>Really they are doing it on purpose, how stupid can you get. Volunteer firemen, not in Ogdensburg. Unemployment is something that is earned, and it is an insurance, not a handout. Why don't you go and shovel your own sidewalk, and quite waiting for some kid to come along and do it for you.
Yeah? Well, there are some private plowers with their pickup who are crappy at what they do or are inconsiderate. I've seen them purposely push snow across the street from driveways or in the neighbors yards or onto the sidewalks (which I believe is not only illegal, but very inconsiderate). There are also some DPW guys who know how to handle their blades and wings to bury a driveway or clip off a mailbox.
Unemployment is NOT a handout? Well there sure are a hell of alot of people who sure treat it as such and have milked it for every week they can as if it were an entitlement. They've received more back in benefits than they'll ever pay into it. Plus employers foot the majority of it.
Oh, I dont need to shovel my own sidewalk, I'm smart enough to use a snowblower. And I use it to gladly clear my elderly neighbors' too.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#29 Jan 1, 2013
community service wrote:
<quoted text>I won't b*tch because then I will have gotten my tax money back, seeing I'm not getting what I already paid for as it is. When you hit them in their wallets they, all of a sudden, wake up and start doing what they have already been paid to do, instead of resting on their laurels.
Sorry nobody gets paid to come and shovel your sidewalks, you have to do it yourself. Ha Ha. As far as you winning a lawsuit, you wouldn't. Show me any law where it says, somebody has to clear your firehydrant. The city does it as a courtesy, not because they have to. Once the insurance company finds out you failed to clear your hydrant on purpose, they more than likely will drop you from thier coverage.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#30 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah? Well, there are some private plowers with their pickup who are crappy at what they do or are inconsiderate. I've seen them purposely push snow across the street from driveways or in the neighbors yards or onto the sidewalks (which I believe is not only illegal, but very inconsiderate). There are also some DPW guys who know how to handle their blades and wings to bury a driveway or clip off a mailbox.
Unemployment is NOT a handout? Well there sure are a hell of alot of people who sure treat it as such and have milked it for every week they can as if it were an entitlement. They've received more back in benefits than they'll ever pay into it. Plus employers foot the majority of it.
Oh, I dont need to shovel my own sidewalk, I'm smart enough to use a snowblower. And I use it to gladly clear my elderly neighbors' too.
Really a snowblower, and your still bitching about clearing a little ole firehydyant. Now that is some funny shit right there.
Sidelines

Middleport, NY

#31 Jan 1, 2013
Insurance cannot drop you for that reason. If you have a hydrant in front of your home or business it's not your responsibility to shovel it.
nobody cares

Ogdensburg, NY

#32 Jan 1, 2013
Still on my High Horse wrote:
<quoted text>
What are the odds of your house (or any) burning down? You think a house burns up every week in the town? There'd be no homes left after a few yrs.
Why dont you go out and help an elderly female neighbor who can't shovel or someone with a heart condition clear the snow from the hydrant in front of their home. Or are you a fat worthless beer swilling loudmouth who can't back up his own pontifications?
And who is the "we" you refer to when you say you dont give a shyt? You got a mouse in your pocket?
btw - learn your and you're.
The we is the person sitting next to me laughing at all of your posts. Ok, I will learn those two words. Are you ready. Your butthole, is the same as your mouth. You are a butthole. Is that better
Move Out

Massena, NY

#33 Jan 1, 2013
Pathetic wrote:
2 guys could shovel out at least 12 a day. Are they doing it? The city always has excuses.
So if an older person shovels his hydrant and suffers a heart attack, who makes out. The rescue squad gets to charge an outrageous amount for a ride, the hospital gets to over charge for crappy services. People are paid to do a job, let them do it.
You won't see the mayor, city council, or cops out there doing it
Sounds like you should move if things are really that bad.
Realitybites

Syracuse, NY

#34 Jan 1, 2013
Sidelines wrote:
Insurance cannot drop you for that reason. If you have a hydrant in front of your home or business it's not your responsibility to shovel it.
Neither can you sue if you are aware it is blocked and do nothing. At the very least, you have to call and report it.

Better check to see if a law like this is on the books

http://yorktown-somers.patch.com/articles/res...
Positive Community People

Massena, NY

#35 Jan 1, 2013
Realitybites wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither can you sue if you are aware it is blocked and do nothing. At the very least, you have to call and report it.
Better check to see if a law like this is on the books
http://yorktown-somers.patch.com/articles/res...
refreshing to read this article. I am sure people on here will find a way to rip it though.
Sideline

Bath, NY

#36 Jan 1, 2013
Do a little research on what the Ogdensburg firemen are responsible for.
community service

Massena, NY

#37 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>We did not pay 100,000 for a new sidewalk plow, why would we, in this city, everyone is responsible for shovling thier own sidewalk. You just talking out of your ass. Nobody cares what you have to say anyways.
Last year or the year before we paid $95,000 for a new sidewalk plow. If you don't know what you are talking about you should stay out of the conversation.
community service

Massena, NY

#38 Jan 1, 2013
nobody cares wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry nobody gets paid to come and shovel your sidewalks, you have to do it yourself. Ha Ha. As far as you winning a lawsuit, you wouldn't. Show me any law where it says, somebody has to clear your firehydrant. The city does it as a courtesy, not because they have to. Once the insurance company finds out you failed to clear your hydrant on purpose, they more than likely will drop you from thier coverage.
I most definitely would win. If the village is negligent because of not performing their job, they are liable for damages. I already sued the state for not doing their job years ago for not fixing a broken crosswalk sign which they knew about for three months which resulted in a pedestrian being hit. The state settled out of court for $700,000, because they knew I was going to slaughter them if we went to trial. They were negligent therefore they were liable. Fire hydrants are to be kept clear in case of a fire and it is the village or fire departments job to do that. If they are negligent by not doing it they are liable. I suggest you educate yourself a little. And you are right the insurance company would probably drop me after they paid my claim but then I would just get another insurance company. You really don't know how the world works, do you.
community service

Massena, NY

#39 Jan 1, 2013
Realitybites wrote:
<quoted text>
Neither can you sue if you are aware it is blocked and do nothing. At the very least, you have to call and report it.
Better check to see if a law like this is on the books
http://yorktown-somers.patch.com/articles/res...
You don't have to call and report anything they are aware that all hydrants in the village are buried that's why they are asking for help. It's their property and they are responsible for it.
Okay now

Oswego, NY

#40 Jan 1, 2013
How about this. If you go on your walks daily and such, even in this crazy snow, and you know for a fact that there is a hydrant under the snow that the idiots plowed; simply see if you can unmask at least some of the snow to where the top of the hydrant is showing. If you cant do it or dont want to then dont. No one is forcing you to do it and no one is holding a gun to your head telling you to do it.

End of story. Shut up.
John Deere

Anonymous Proxy

#41 Jan 1, 2013
Crazy wrote:
<quoted text>
The HS kids already rake yards for FREE in the fall
Raking leaves robs the soil of the free nutrients from the leaves and it creates an unecessary chore for garbage crews. People who rake their yards and then fertilize it are wasting time and money.

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