Ridge heading toward fire protection ...

Ridge heading toward fire protection district?

There are 46 comments on the Oak Lawn/Evergreen Park Reporter story from Jun 24, 2010, titled Ridge heading toward fire protection district?. In it, Oak Lawn/Evergreen Park Reporter reports that:

Chicago Ridge is taking part in a study that could lead to the village combining its fire protection services with those of other municipalities.

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just me

Chicago, IL

#25 Dec 18, 2011
19 full-time why do we need so many. I say only 2 full-time per shift the rest part-time. How much was the new fire station. And the tower
Resident

Evergreen Park, IL

#26 Feb 22, 2013
just me wrote:
19 full-time why do we need so many. I say only 2 full-time per shift the rest part-time. How much was the new fire station. And the tower
Chicago Ridge is taking part in a study that could lead to the village combining its fire protection services with those of other municipalities? Two firefighters per shift and the rest part-time? Who thinks of this junk? Who was the genius who wasted the money for the study and why weren't the results of the study made public? More evidence that the wrong men are on the Village Board.
Hey B Rad

Chicago, IL

#27 Mar 23, 2013
So B-Rad. What did you do about this? It looks like you wasted our money on a Study that you probably couldn't read but didn't make public because you didn't like the results. No matter what, we are sure that you loved seeing your name in the headlines. Then what happened? Did the study come back and say Hey B-Rad this is a great idea or did the study come back and say Hey B-Rad you are an illiterate moron, this is a horrible idea you should get booted off the board? How about the house that the Village Board bought on Lombard because you didn't like how it looked? If you got off your fat rear and walked around you would see lots of rundown abandoned homes in the village. Should the village buy all rundown abandoned homes? What are you thinking? Or do you ever really think B Rad? Time to go? I think so.
Village Action Party

Evergreen Park, IL

#28 Mar 26, 2013
Hey B Rad wrote:
So B-Rad. What did you do about this? It looks like you wasted our money on a Study that you probably couldn't read but didn't make public because you didn't like the results. No matter what, we are sure that you loved seeing your name in the headlines. Then what happened? Did the study come back and say Hey B-Rad this is a great idea or did the study come back and say Hey B-Rad you are an illiterate moron, this is a horrible idea you should get booted off the board? How about the house that the Village Board bought on Lombard because you didn't like how it looked? If you got off your fat rear and walked around you would see lots of rundown abandoned homes in the village. Should the village buy all rundown abandoned homes? What are you thinking? Or do you ever really think B Rad? Time to go? I think so.
Hey the Village Action Pary was not ever going to do away with our Fire Department, we were just saying that back then because we were trying to sound important. All we need to do is put out more sighns, and really talk tough to those part time workers and people that Gene appointed. That is enough. When we get back in we might do a few more studies because that is how we roll. More sighns okay? Get moving.
Question

Midlothian, IL

#29 Mar 26, 2013
How is it Evergreen Park, Crestwood, Tinley Park and Westmont just to name a few towns handle more calls for service then Chicago Ridge and do it with part time personnel? Is this something Chicago Ridge should look into?
No Fire District

Evergreen Park, IL

#30 Apr 5, 2013
Did Mayor Chuck Tokar tell senior citizens recently that He intends to create a fire district with Oak Lawn and Brad said he liked the idea too? We need to get rid of Grove to keep our Fire Department.
smokey bear

Chicago, IL

#31 Apr 7, 2013
We need to get rid of Brad for a whole lot more reasons then that. Independents only on April 9th.
All Star Quotes

Chicago, IL

#32 Jun 3, 2014
Resident wrote:
<quoted text>Thuggie? What is that for? Show a little respect.
Jun 24, 2010
Chicago Ridge is taking part in a study that could lead to the village combining its fire protection services with those of other municipalities. The study being conducted by the Metropolitan Mayors Caucus is designed to reduce costs for the Chicago Ridge, Oak Lawn and Alsip fire departments. Chicago Ridge will pay $3,750 to help fund the study, while the Mayors Caucus agreed to pick up an additional $3,750 of the village’s portion of expenses. The 2010-11 budget projection for the Chicago Ridge Fire Department is about $2.8 million — a $200,000 increase from the previous fiscal year. The department owns 12 pieces of equipment and has 19 full-time and 12 paid-on-call employees.“Villages can’t afford their fire departments anymore,” Mayor Eugene Siegel said at the Village Board’s meeting June 15. Whatever the outcome of the study, the firefighting personnel is not likely to change, Siegel said. A consultant for the Mayors Caucus will contact and review the fire department sometime in July, said Chicago Ridge Fire Chief Randall Grossi.“It certainly has the potential to be a huge cost-savings for us,” said village Trustee Brad Grove about consolidating fire protection services. A fire protection district could be formed as a result of this study and others like it, Siegel said. A similar study between several northeastern Illinois counties is in the works, he added. Should a fire protection district form, the residents of Chicago Ridge would be hit with a paramedic tax, Siegel said. Such a tax was abated when the fire department was created some 30 years ago.“I would certainly not be opposed to becoming a fire protection district, nor would the firefighters, as long as their pay and benefits were not reduced,” Grossi said.

Jun 24, 2010
Did you notice how the Chief said the FD would like the district idea "if" there were no changes to the staff or their salaries? What is the point of reductions if there are no smaller salaries? Does anyone else think this is a boondoggle?

It will save the Village Board money but it will cost the village more money. Siegel says right off the top of his head that it will raise the paramedic tax levy and Grove says it has the potential to lower the Village taxes. Grove is interested in running a shell game and Siegel is watching out for us. We the village will pay more in taxes for fire protection with this fire district. Why is it that the career politician is better at math than the "professional"?

May 27, 2011

So here we are, a year later. What have we heard from the new Chicago Ridge Fire protection district? Oh wait. We didn't hear anything. What about it? Can't you finish anything?

Jun 3, 2014

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CRFD Fan

United States

#33 Jun 9, 2014
Thanks for informing us poor slobs that pay the bills guys. This Village Board has got to go.
aNONOMYS

Oak Lawn, IL

#34 Jun 10, 2014
if we go to a private plan the people pay so your taxes go up more then what they will go up
Big Time Winner

Chicago, IL

#35 Jun 11, 2014
aNONOMYS wrote:
if we go to a private plan the people pay so your taxes go up more then what they will go up
There's a no-brainer sitting on the table down at the Village Hall that could benefit the Village coffers, we always applauded the skills and accreditations of CRFD firefighters, and "privitization” sounds great because Big Time Winners hate unions but a Fire District sounds better. That’s right the Big Time Winners invented Fire Districts. Plus our pal is getting a bad rap. He didn’t do anything to her. Just keep it simple because Big Time Winners like it simple. Never say you are sorry and don’t ask for permission either. Do whatever you want but life-saving is not about speed.
Anonymous

Evergreen Park, IL

#36 Jun 21, 2014
Well it's been a busy year at the Fire Department with the mayor deciding that he's more qualified to run a fire department than the experts that do the job 24/7. The suffered a black eye when one of its members got locked up we all know the story so to follow that up they fire a member with 27 years on the job for no reason . Get ready chicago ridge tax payers to pay up when that lawsuit gets settled.The Mayor in his infinite wisedom has decided not staff the fire department properly and is paying overtime every day to the tune of $30,000.00 a month again the tax payers take it on the chin . Next decides to have a public fight with the Firefighter / Paramedics and trying to make them to be lowlifes sorry I know some of them. Hey Chuck they don't get intimidated easily they go into burning buildings ! He is also trying to blame them the pension problems hey Chuck what happen to all the pension money that went into the general fund prior to 2006 when you were the village clerk . There's no chance that money was spent on sidewalks, street lights or christmas decorations , seems to me the village took out a loan from the firefighters and now they don't want to pay up . The rest of us take out loans for cars , houses ect. and we pay it back or else. Get ready taxpayers Chuck and boys are gonna get your money. Now for the last bit of news as of June 20th the Fire Chief reasons unknown the Fire Chief was forced to resign my guess he told Chuck and the boys the truth and couldn't handle it. Chicago Ridge tax payers wake up you voted these guys in . More to follow .
anonnymus

Oak Lawn, IL

#37 Jun 21, 2014
Old chucky thinks he is a dictator not a mayor he can do what he feels like he don't need anyones approval is that what we elected him for He goes out in next election he forgets he was the only one running and the other trustees will also be gone next election ask chucky why he pays attorneys 8000.00 a month to see if the yellow freight property is up for sale talk about people living in the village how about his buddy davies and then talk about pensions how about baldy and his good buddy jack
we need new blood take a look around the village is it getting any better
ridger

United States

#38 Jun 23, 2014
I just heard some very disturbing news. Our current mayor has dismissed the acting fire chief. Is this the first step towards a Fire Protection District? whatever happened to keeping people who live in the town working? Our current fire chief, or should I say former fire chief, is a Ridge residence.what does Chuck, Jack, little Mike, and B- Rad have against keeping jobs in town. I know let's cut the budget everywhere we can so we can increase our wages. I know Mike certainly doesn't care, as long as the Texas fire department gets to his house fast enough.
Big Time Winner

Chicago, IL

#39 Jun 23, 2014
ridger wrote:
I just heard some very disturbing news. Our current mayor has dismissed the acting fire chief. Is this the first step towards a Fire Protection District? whatever happened to keeping people who live in the town working? Our current fire chief, or should I say former fire chief, is a Ridge residence.what does Chuck, Jack, little Mike, and B- Rad have against keeping jobs in town. I know let's cut the budget everywhere we can so we can increase our wages. I know Mike certainly doesn't care, as long as the Texas fire department gets to his house fast enough.
Hey we just talked about Residency during elections because that is what Big Time Winners do. Not too many of us are still around but we are getting ready to shake it up and get started. We have plenty of money so we are now going to say we don't care about Residency while we criticize the Fire Department for negotiating over boundaries and asking the board for permission to go outside the boundaries. What we say doesn't matter, bringing home the bacon is all that matters. Get your kids jobs and hire political pals. Screw the Residents...I mean screw Residency. We can do what we want. We are Big Time Winners. We still have the money that we squeezed out of all of the Village Officers and vendors and it is almost time to get another campain office and buy some sighns and do what we do--ACT like big time winners.We might even get the old mayor to put something on our sighns. We might do that even if he doesn't want to because we are Big Time Winners.
Cheesehead

Chicago Ridge, IL

#40 Jun 23, 2014
Big Time Winner wrote:
<quoted text> Hey we just talked about Residency during elections because that is what Big Time Winners do. Not too many of us are still around but we are getting ready to shake it up and get started. We have plenty of money so we are now going to say we don't care about Residency while we criticize the Fire Department for negotiating over boundaries and asking the board for permission to go outside the boundaries. What we say doesn't matter, bringing home the bacon is all that matters. Get your kids jobs and hire political pals. Screw the Residents...I mean screw Residency. We can do what we want. We are Big Time Winners. We still have the money that we squeezed out of all of the Village Officers and vendors and it is almost time to get another campain office and buy some sighns and do what we do--ACT like big time winners.We might even get the old mayor to put something on our sighns. We might do that even if he doesn't want to because we are Big Time Winners.
I resemble that!
Oak Lawn Leaf

Chicago, IL

#42 Jun 25, 2014
The Firefighters in both departments are worried that the Village of Oak Lawn is taking over Chicago Ridge's Department.(Chief) Sheets told his firefighters that there is no truth to the rumors. Neither firefighters' union was consulted and legal fights will be forthcoming if the firemen are right.
anonnymus

Oak Lawn, IL

#43 Jun 26, 2014
Oak Lawn Leaf wrote:
The Firefighters in both departments are worried that the Village of Oak Lawn is taking over Chicago Ridge's Department.(Chief) Sheets told his firefighters that there is no truth to the rumors. Neither firefighters' union was consulted and legal fights will be forthcoming if the firemen are right.
The new chief of the ridge fire department is the Oak Lawn Chief he will handle both depts
Fire Marshal Bill

Country Club Hills, IL

#44 Jun 29, 2014
"One ounce of prevention is better than a 10 ton fire engine." As for paramedic service, they're there to help when you can no longer help yourself. The fire depts. in the area often "over-respond" with men and equipment to calls that they know are one step above a false alarm. Why? To ensure job security for a job that doesn't require all the manpower they've weaseled out of the taxpayers. They did it in the name of "standards" but at the expense of taxpayers who can no longer afford this type of service.
Billoney

Chicago Ridge, IL

#45 Jun 30, 2014
Fire Marshal Bill wrote:
"One ounce of prevention is better than a 10 ton fire engine." As for paramedic service, they're there to help when you can no longer help yourself. The fire depts. in the area often "over-respond" with men and equipment to calls that they know are one step above a false alarm. Why? To ensure job security for a job that doesn't require all the manpower they've weaseled out of the taxpayers. They did it in the name of "standards" but at the expense of taxpayers who can no longer afford this type of service.
Thanks for your comments Jacko.
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