Death Toll Rises to 14 After Texas Blast

Apr 19, 2013 Full story: www.nytimes.com 36

As the authorities continued to sift through the debris left by the devastating explosion at a fertilizer plant here, scores of people were still missing, and the number of dead rose to 14, most of them firefighters and other emergency responders who were the first to arrive at the scene.

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#1 Apr 19, 2013
THis needs further investigation. Whatever started the fire and how the tank gave in to the heat and pressure must be spelled out (e.g. bad welding or incorrect welding).

We got too many chemical plants storing hazardous chemicals in risky containments that can devastate a whole city if no attention is given to them (including security from would be terrorists).

With the bad economy, some companies will cut corners and that will put the citizenry into danger.

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

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#2 Apr 20, 2013
"You're gonna have these bumps in da road"__Obama.
"Who cares how they died"___Hillary
August

Belleview, FL

#3 Apr 20, 2013
Thoughts and prayers to Texas.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#4 Apr 20, 2013
First of all, a plant like that is subject to inspection from many organizations. OSHA is just one of them. As you know OSHA is focused on worker safety. That isn't the same thing as inspecting a facility for its overall safety. That plant has been inspected many other times by the EPA, the Texas TCEQ, etc.

Until we have more data I am unwilling to jump to where you already are. You assume (incorrectly) that conservatives, or perhaps Texans, don't want any regulations nor care about worker safety. If this plant was a ticking time bomb then action should be taken to reduce the odds of another explosion like this.

This explosion could have been the result of human error. It could have been faulty or equipment.

However being a disaster just like the Boston bombing where liberals immeidately came out and said it was "right wingers angry about tax day," the West blast is opportunity for liberals to fabricate stories for propaganda purposes.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#5 Apr 20, 2013
B.S.

The EPA is "putting politics ahead of the environmental issues," said Bryan Shaw, chairman of the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality.

Texas and the EPA have disagreed for years over pollution regulation, but the hostility intensified recently with Republican Gov. Rick Perry accusing the EPA and the Obama administration of overstepping boundaries and meddling in states' rights. With a more conservative state Legislature about to convene next year, there's appetite to keep up that fight.

About 200 Texas facilities continue to operate with air and water permits that are either out of date or have been disapproved by the EPA. The agency believes they are releasing a variety of metals and chemicals into the air and water that would, under the new regulations, no longer be permitted.

The administration's focus should be job creation and economic recovery, not unnecessary and burdensome regulations that will threaten jobs and create a drag on business efforts to invest, expand and put people back to work," Howard Felman, API's director of regulatory and scientific affairs, said in a statement.

Texas says it has wed environmental law so successfully with an industry-friendly economy that the EPA and other states could learn from it.

And meanwhile?

"It's a soup of toxic chemicals," said Neil Carman, a Sierra Club scientist and former Texas environmental regulator.

A teabagger utopia.

Until a fertilizer plant explodes.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#6 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
B.S.
The EPA is "putting politics ahead of the environmental issues," said Bryan Shaw, chairman of the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality.
Texas and the EPA have disagreed for years over pollution regulation, but the hostility intensified recently with Republican Gov. Rick Perry accusing the EPA and the Obama administration of overstepping boundaries and meddling in states' rights. With a more conservative state Legislature about to convene next year, there's appetite to keep up that fight.
About 200 Texas facilities continue to operate with air and water permits that are either out of date or have been disapproved by the EPA. The agency believes they are releasing a variety of metals and chemicals into the air and water that would, under the new regulations, no longer be permitted.
The administration's focus should be job creation and economic recovery, not unnecessary and burdensome regulations that will threaten jobs and create a drag on business efforts to invest, expand and put people back to work," Howard Felman, API's director of regulatory and scientific affairs, said in a statement.
Texas says it has wed environmental law so successfully with an industry-friendly economy that the EPA and other states could learn from it.
And meanwhile?
"It's a soup of toxic chemicals," said Neil Carman, a Sierra Club scientist and former Texas environmental regulator.
A teabagger utopia.
Until a fertilizer plant explodes.
Bullshit........

Florida has a large agrarian base, chiefly composed of orange and other citrus trees. Pesticides help prevent diseases and pests, and these were detected in the soil surface, canals, and groundwater. According to Rural Migration news, pesticide usage per acre in Florida is heavier than in other states. The organic advocacy group Organics Consumers Association states that Theodore McDowell, a former Florida Department of Environmental Protection employee, testified under oath that he was told to downplay the true levels of contamination caused by pesticide usage in Florida.

Practice what you preach, numbnuts.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#7 Apr 20, 2013
August wrote:
Thoughts and prayers to Texas.
There are classy people in Florida....nice to see!!!
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#8 Apr 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit........
Florida has a large agrarian base, chiefly composed of orange and other citrus trees. Pesticides help prevent diseases and pests, and these were detected in the soil surface, canals, and groundwater. According to Rural Migration news, pesticide usage per acre in Florida is heavier than in other states. The organic advocacy group Organics Consumers Association states that Theodore McDowell, a former Florida Department of Environmental Protection employee, testified under oath that he was told to downplay the true levels of contamination caused by pesticide usage in Florida.
Practice what you preach, numbnuts.
Getting rid of teabaggers would be a good start.

Florida has been run by teabaggers for well over a decade, so I don't disagree.

They are ruining our state too.

April 5, 2013

Far-reaching legislation that would relax or eliminate a long list of critical environmental regulations is winding its way through both chambers of the Florida Legislature and, amazingly, is stirring virtually no debate among lawmakers, let alone resistance.

The two bills, Senate Bill 1684 and House Bill 999, which are similar, are making their way through the committee process and are remarkable not only because of the depth of the rollbacks in environmental regulation they propose, but because of the breadth of the environmental landscape they cover.

Among the regulatory protections these bills would remove or greatly relax are wetlands permitting, water permitting, marina development, development permitting, air pollution permitting, water management board authority and water sampling and testing, for starters. In all, each bill is more than 40 pages long and would seriously weaken environmental laws — something that has become an annual ritual in Tallahassee.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#9 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Getting rid of teabaggers would be a good start.
Florida has been run by teabaggers for well over a decade, so I don't disagree.
They are ruining our state too.
April 5, 2013
Far-reaching legislation that would relax or eliminate a long list of critical environmental regulations is winding its way through both chambers of the Florida Legislature and, amazingly, is stirring virtually no debate among lawmakers, let alone resistance.
The two bills, Senate Bill 1684 and House Bill 999, which are similar, are making their way through the committee process and are remarkable not only because of the depth of the rollbacks in environmental regulation they propose, but because of the breadth of the environmental landscape they cover.
Among the regulatory protections these bills would remove or greatly relax are wetlands permitting, water permitting, marina development, development permitting, air pollution permitting, water management board authority and water sampling and testing, for starters. In all, each bill is more than 40 pages long and would seriously weaken environmental laws — something that has become an annual ritual in Tallahassee.
The tea party hasn't existed for a decade, genius...just as many demorats involved with pollution, probably more due to kickbacks and pork projects.

The republicans have done more for conservation than the democrats...FACT.

http://conservamerica.org/

Your stupid propaganda......not withstanding!!

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#10 Apr 20, 2013
Justin Gillis, writing in The New York Times, starts:

“This might be a good time to take a look at the most important environmental law that nobody has ever heard of.

The real estate industry fought that law bitterly in Congress, but lost, and it landed on Ronald Reagan’s desk in 1982. The president not only signed it, but did so with a rhetorical flourish, calling it a “triumph for natural resource conservation and federal fiscal responsibility.”

The law — the Coastal Barrier Resources Act — was intended to protect much of the American coastline, and it did so in a clever way that drew votes from the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats.

Pushed and signed by Ronald Reagan.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#11 Apr 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
The tea party hasn't existed for a decade, genius...just as many demorats involved with pollution, probably more due to kickbacks and pork projects.
The republicans have done more for conservation than the democrats...FACT.
http://conservamerica.org/
Your stupid propaganda......not withstanding!!
Neocons, teabaggers, repackaged republicans...... same thing.

ConservAmerica was founded in 1995 to resurrect the GOP's great conservation tradition and to restore natural resource conservation and sound environmental protection as fundamental elements of the Republican Party's vision for America.

Conservation is Conservative!®

Now that's teabagger propaganda.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#12 Apr 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
Justin Gillis, writing in The New York Times, starts:
“This might be a good time to take a look at the most important environmental law that nobody has ever heard of.
The real estate industry fought that law bitterly in Congress, but lost, and it landed on Ronald Reagan’s desk in 1982. The president not only signed it, but did so with a rhetorical flourish, calling it a “triumph for natural resource conservation and federal fiscal responsibility.”
The law — the Coastal Barrier Resources Act — was intended to protect much of the American coastline, and it did so in a clever way that drew votes from the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats.
Pushed and signed by Ronald Reagan.
Since its enactment, CBRA has been promoted as a fiscally conservative, free market approach to encourage coastal conservation. In no way does the Act regulate how individuals develop their land on and around areas of coastal barrier. Instead, it directs that Federal dollars not be spent for development purposes on designated coastal barriers. Therefore, the full cost of development and rebuilding is transferred from American taxpayers to the individuals who choose to live and build in such hazard-prone areas.

An economic study conducted by the USFWS in 2002 estimated that by 2010, CBRA will have saved American taxpayers nearly $1.3 billion by restricting Federal spending for roads, wastewater systems, potable water supply, and disaster relief.

Imagine that, and it's working so well.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#13 Apr 20, 2013
Just as America thought Texan Republicans had reached the peak of their hypocrisy, Wednesday night came around and took them to a new all-time high. The city of West, Texas was rocked by a devastating explosion at a fertilizer plant. The explosion was so powerful, it leveled the surrounding area and led to over 200 injuries. Soon after, Texas Gov. Rick Perry released a statement declaring a disaster area and imploring President Obama to follow his lead and declare it a federal disaster emergency.

Of course, the Texan Republican hypocrisy does not stop there. It is not only Gov. Perry that partakes, but the entire Republican controlled Texan Congress. Texan congressmen in both the United States House and Senate voted against federal disaster relief for victims of hurricane Sandy in the Northeast. Senator Ted Cruz is on record calling federal Sandy relief aid “pork”.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#14 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
Neocons, teabaggers, repackaged republicans...... same thing.
ConservAmerica was founded in 1995 to resurrect the GOP's great conservation tradition and to restore natural resource conservation and sound environmental protection as fundamental elements of the Republican Party's vision for America.
Conservation is Conservative!®
Now that's teabagger propaganda.
Republican conservative started with Teddy Roosevelt....the democraps pork projects, kickbacks and under the table dealings from contributors have caused massive problems and pollution.

Demorat secrecy is coming out........

Democrats Reject Pollution Parity With China, India (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news...

Ah, the hypocrital left..........as always.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#15 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
Just as America thought Texan Republicans had reached the peak of their hypocrisy, Wednesday night came around and took them to a new all-time high. The city of West, Texas was rocked by a devastating explosion at a fertilizer plant. The explosion was so powerful, it leveled the surrounding area and led to over 200 injuries. Soon after, Texas Gov. Rick Perry released a statement declaring a disaster area and imploring President Obama to follow his lead and declare it a federal disaster emergency.
Of course, the Texan Republican hypocrisy does not stop there. It is not only Gov. Perry that partakes, but the entire Republican controlled Texan Congress. Texan congressmen in both the United States House and Senate voted against federal disaster relief for victims of hurricane Sandy in the Northeast. Senator Ted Cruz is on record calling federal Sandy relief aid “pork”.
What a fkn liar.......that plant has been here through democrat governors also, bonehead.

Many in the congress including dems voted against Sandy relief until the massive dem pork was removed......then approved it.

You're a very pathetic liar. LMAO

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#16 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
Just as America thought Texan Republicans had reached the peak of their hypocrisy, Wednesday night came around and took them to a new all-time high. The city of West, Texas was rocked by a devastating explosion at a fertilizer plant. The explosion was so powerful, it leveled the surrounding area and led to over 200 injuries. Soon after, Texas Gov. Rick Perry released a statement declaring a disaster area and imploring President Obama to follow his lead and declare it a federal disaster emergency.
Of course, the Texan Republican hypocrisy does not stop there. It is not only Gov. Perry that partakes, but the entire Republican controlled Texan Congress. Texan congressmen in both the United States House and Senate voted against federal disaster relief for victims of hurricane Sandy in the Northeast. Senator Ted Cruz is on record calling federal Sandy relief aid “pork”.
There WAS pork in the federal Sandy relief, dkhead.

Sandy hit in October of 2013....Ted Cruz was elected to the senate in November of 2013...
it included millions of dollars for Amtrak upgrades, FBI salaries and road projects in states not affected by the storm.

Great job to the congressmen and senators who stopped us from more demorat robberies.

You are no longer beneath our contempt. LMAO
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#17 Apr 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
What a fkn liar.......that plant has been here through democrat governors also, bonehead.
Many in the congress including dems voted against Sandy relief until the massive dem pork was removed......then approved it.
You're a very pathetic liar. LMAO
The plant didn't blow up during a democrat government, it blew up under a hypocritical teabagger government.

On Thursday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) also asked President Barack Obama for a “quick turnaround” on federal aid.

We should debate the teabagger "pork" for about 3 months, then send a check.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#18 Apr 20, 2013
Sandy hit October 2012.........

Ted Cruz was NOT part of the senate until Jan. 2013...wallstreet.

The typo not withstanding.
Wall Street Government

Sebastian, FL

#19 Apr 20, 2013
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
<quoted text>
There WAS pork in the federal Sandy relief, dkhead.
Sandy hit in October of 2013....Ted Cruz was elected to the senate in November of 2013...
it included millions of dollars for Amtrak upgrades, FBI salaries and road projects in states not affected by the storm.
Great job to the congressmen and senators who stopped us from more demorat robberies.
You are no longer beneath our contempt. LMAO
There is pork in every bill, if teabaggers were so concerned about the "pork" in the Sandy bill, why didn't they expose who put the pork in the bill?

Instead they obstructed and whined but didn't expose or stop anything.

Typical teabaggers.

Since: Dec 07

Flint, TX

#20 Apr 20, 2013
Wall Street Government wrote:
<quoted text>
The plant didn't blow up during a democrat government, it blew up under a hypocritical teabagger government.
On Thursday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) also asked President Barack Obama for a “quick turnaround” on federal aid.
We should debate the teabagger "pork" for about 3 months, then send a check.
The plant blew up due to an accident, loser. That is all, nothing to do with dems or republiccans..however another tragedy where people died and the left jumps on their usual "it's the righties" propaganda..Aurora, Sandy Hook, Gifford shooting...you lefties jumped on the air and said "righties!" Every authority proved different and you didn't mention it any longer.

Texas puts 227 billion a year into federal coffers..ten time more than your state, we get less back..Federal aid is for all states, not just blue ones that get more than their share back, got it pinhead??

The secret.......don't let dem congressmen put pork in federal aid...LMAO no debate necessary.

Buildings collapse all over California after earthquakes..but they're are democrat led...why don't they fix that?? Floods hit New York and New Jersey after Sandy, houses built near the beach got washed away..why didn't the democrat majority fix that???

You're so fkn predictable...blame game and all.

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