Firefighters Let Home Burn; Owner Did...

Firefighters Let Home Burn; Owner Didn't Pay Fee

There are 20 comments on the TheBostonChannel story from Oct 5, 2010, titled Firefighters Let Home Burn; Owner Didn't Pay Fee. In it, TheBostonChannel reports that:

Firefighters in a far western Tennessee city let a mobile home burn to the ground because the owner didn't pay an annual $75 fire protection fee, authorities say.

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Gisela Ridder

Palm Desert, CA

#1 Oct 5, 2010
Shame on you, Mayor David Crocker! Shame on you, Fire Chief David Wilds! for letting this happen to Gene Cranick and his family and his pets.
I sure hope you are not calling yourselves Christians, do you? Christians would never have allowed themselves to have so little compassion.
How can you sleep at night after this?
Shame on you. You do not deserve the positions you have been elected to or chosen to occupy. The least thing you two should do to add just a grain of decency to this neglect is resign.
OUTRAGED

West Liberty, KY

#2 Oct 5, 2010
WHAT A BUNCH OF PIECES OF SH!T FIREMEN YOU HAVE DOWN THERE....KARMA IS BITCH !!!!
Timothy FG

Torrance, CA

#3 Oct 5, 2010
As a recently retired Fire Rescue Chief this flat peeves me off. I started my career two decades ago as a volunteer Firefighter/EMT and ended my career with the Honor of answering to the title of Chief (for those it matters to it was Career over a combination department) and not once during my career did I ever respond and fail to do my duty nor refuse to respond to call. When a call came in we went and did our job and duty. An this includes during the days I was with departments and districts that did not receive any tax funding, very little money from the state annually and lived mostly off of membership dues. The way it works is you respond to the call, do your duty and then when the flames are out you find out if the property owner is a dues paid member, if they are not you give them five business days to get into the office and pay their dues and if they did not you sent them a bill for services (for us it started at $350 for the first truck $150 for each additional truck and if over 4 hours was spent on the call it was an extra $100 per truck per hour),(hum might their insurance pay it) and if they did not pay the bill in six months after legally required notices were sent you sued them and/or got the state A.G. to collect it for you (which they always did even if it was in payments). Now the Authority that the Fire Chief answers to needs removed from office and the Chief Officers of the department need relieved of duty, the SOG’s/SOP’s and administrative policies need reworked and the rank and file firefighters need retrained on duty, ethics and morals. They had a professional duty, ethical, moral and legal responsibility to disobey unlawful orders and fulfill their duty to their community and thy neighbor. In my entire career I have never seen a basic firefighting manual that did not have the following in its first chapter if not in the first couples of pages (straight from the National Fire Protection Association)“The Goals of Firefighting are (in order of priority) personal safety, saving victims’ lives, saving property and protecting the environment” no where do I see anything about dues or money. The rank and file firefighter and line officers are suppose to worry about their duty and maintaining the oath of service they took. The Chief Officers and the authority that the Chief answers to are suppose to worry about the money and that concern should NEVER stop a department from performing its duties to the community in times of emergency calls.
Sincerely,
Timothy F. Griepp Fire Chief (Ret.)
MS FEM, CEM

“Wifey & Mommy”

Since: May 10

Palmersville,TN

#4 Oct 5, 2010
Timothy FG wrote:
As a recently retired Fire Rescue Chief this flat peeves me off. I started my career two decades ago as a volunteer Firefighter/EMT and ended my career with the Honor of answering to the title of Chief (for those it matters to it was Career over a combination department) and not once during my career did I ever respond and fail to do my duty nor refuse to respond to call. When a call came in we went and did our job and duty. An this includes during the days I was with departments and districts that did not receive any tax funding, very little money from the state annually and lived mostly off of membership dues. The way it works is you respond to the call, do your duty and then when the flames are out you find out if the property owner is a dues paid member, if they are not you give them five business days to get into the office and pay their dues and if they did not you sent them a bill for services (for us it started at $350 for the first truck $150 for each additional truck and if over 4 hours was spent on the call it was an extra $100 per truck per hour),(hum might their insurance pay it) and if they did not pay the bill in six months after legally required notices were sent you sued them and/or got the state A.G. to collect it for you (which they always did even if it was in payments). Now the Authority that the Fire Chief answers to needs removed from office and the Chief Officers of the department need relieved of duty, the SOG’s/SOP’s and administrative policies need reworked and the rank and file firefighters need retrained on duty, ethics and morals. They had a professional duty, ethical, moral and legal responsibility to disobey unlawful orders and fulfill their duty to their community and thy neighbor. In my entire career I have never seen a basic firefighting manual that did not have the following in its first chapter if not in the first couples of pages (straight from the National Fire Protection Association)“The Goals of Firefighting are (in order of priority) personal safety, saving victims’ lives, saving property and protecting the environment” no where do I see anything about dues or money. The rank and file firefighter and line officers are suppose to worry about their duty and maintaining the oath of service they took. The Chief Officers and the authority that the Chief answers to are suppose to worry about the money and that concern should NEVER stop a department from performing its duties to the community in times of emergency calls.
Sincerely,
Timothy F. Griepp Fire Chief (Ret.)
MS FEM, CEM
Thats the way THIS should have been handled...sadly they dont seem to have anyone over there with enough intelligence to do that.Disgusting.I wonder what will happen in the end of all this?When it all dies down?I sure hope something gets done about whats happened.
sam

Middletown, OH

#5 Oct 5, 2010
This is how the Republican "Privitization"syste m works.It doesn't.
David Pangburn

Rome, NY

#6 Oct 6, 2010
You should be ashamed of yourselves allowing someone's house to burn to the ground and killing animals. How do you sleep at night? If it's the $$$$ you are worried about ever hear of a property lien? My wife and I use to visit Tenn. Never again!!!!!!!
wth

Union City, TN

#7 Oct 6, 2010
David Pangburn wrote:
You should be ashamed of yourselves allowing someone's house to burn to the ground and killing animals. How do you sleep at night? If it's the $$$$ you are worried about ever hear of a property lien? My wife and I use to visit Tenn. Never again!!!!!!!
Please do not judge all of Tennessee based on the actions of one small border town and its' incompetent leaders. Visit anytime.
Ivan Brake

Langhorne, PA

#8 Oct 6, 2010
Forget the i's and t's of the law. What about compassion? Whoever made the decision NOT to respond to the fire call.....can you sleep at night? If you can....you must have a hard, hard, heart.
Debbie Reinwalds

AOL

#9 Oct 6, 2010
This is DISGUSTING! How can someone who is called to save and protect let this happen? This would NEVER happen in NJ. You don't deserve the title of being called "FIREMEN". Those poor animals in that house. Your department makes me sick!
Eugene King-Shan Fraser

United States

#10 Oct 6, 2010
To quote Kid Rock; "Say what? Say how? Say who? F*** what? F*** me? F*** YOU!!!"
Even the Bible says 'an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.'
For those of you who made this piss poor decision, and those who are currently trying to defend this decision and its makers, you are a truly pathetic excuse for humans, you are the lowest form of life on this planet! You should be treated in a similar manner.
Personally, I am so disgusted with you at this point that I cannot see where putting you in the category as 'human' is even possible. Since when did firefighting become about the money? What ever happened about helping one another? You and your actions are despicable!
Trust me, no gets out of life alive, and you will have to stand before the LORD and answer for these sorry ass decisions and actions. Not even an apology will help you now.
disgusted

Newark, OH

#11 Oct 6, 2010
So basically the fire department runs it's own insurance company? For a "fee" you get peace of mind that your house will be saved if you pay an annual premium? What happens to all that money if your house never catches fire or you never need their service? This should be a needs based fee. If the fire department comes to your house, THEN you pay for their services. I am sure the insurance company would rather pay for services rendered as opposed to a catastrophic claim!! I would like to see the statistics of how much money they bring in from these rural homeowners who have been forced to pay the fee versus how many fires they have responded to.
sam

Middletown, OH

#12 Oct 8, 2010
Why are people getting so upset? This is how Privitization works.Its the same for Police departments and Prisons.The dollar rules in all situations.There is no right or wrong,just the bottom line.If the Republicans have thier way all America will be Privitized.That way they can make more profit.
sam

Middletown, OH

#13 Oct 8, 2010
Privitization is always dollar driven and evil.
sam

Middletown, OH

#14 Oct 8, 2010
Look at what our Mercenarys did and continue to do in Iraq and Afganistan.That is Privitization of the military to "reduce cost".What a serious joke.
Dr_M

Palm Desert, CA

#15 Jan 30, 2014
Gisela Ridder wrote:
Shame on you, Mayor David Crocker! Shame on you, Fire Chief David Wilds! for letting this happen to Gene Cranick and his family and his pets.
I sure hope you are not calling yourselves Christians, do you? Christians would never have allowed themselves to have so little compassion.
How can you sleep at night after this?
Shame on you. You do not deserve the positions you have been elected to or chosen to occupy. The least thing you two should do to add just a grain of decency to this neglect is resign.
Shame on you Gisela Ridder. You don't have much room to place judgement.
Dr_M

Palm Desert, CA

#16 Jan 30, 2014
Shame on you Gisela Ridder. You don't have room to place judgement.
larry

Humboldt, TN

#17 Jan 30, 2014
This is similar to car insurance . You pay it and hope you never use it. The Fire Dept. has monthly expenses. Very expensive machinary etc. They can't run without money. Their services have to be paid. Nothing in life is free. If ya don't pay your car insurance then if ya have a wreck your out of luck.
larry

Humboldt, TN

#18 Jan 30, 2014
If your so concerned for these people then pay their fee. Problem solved. Firefighters work hard. No one else works for free...ie..doctors cops police etc. Why do you think firefighters should work for free?????
troll n u

Bowling Green, KY

#20 Feb 26, 2014
larry wrote:
If your so concerned for these people then pay their fee. Problem solved. Firefighters work hard. No one else works for free...ie..doctors cops police etc. Why do you think firefighters should work for free?????
Volunteer firemen , duh . Government pays all of their supply cost . They do it kind of like a hobby , like the rescue squad . If you have a fire the home owner pays the $750 fee now. The days of pay to spray are over. Its now spray then pay , the way it should be.
seriously

United States

#21 Apr 8, 2014
Why is this still be talked about? It's over. The policy has changed. Why can't everyone move on?

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