Skull Valley lawmaker wants both side...

Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

There are 1632 comments on the Verde Independent story from Feb 5, 2013, titled Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students. In it, Verde Independent reports that:

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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#152 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
As to the handful of scientists appearing in the movie, two immediately backed away from it and said their views had been misrepresented,
Isn't it wise to be cautious about our jobs in a world dominated by heresy hunters and a global warming religion?
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#153 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
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I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.
I see then that you haven't seen the movie. The dissident climate scientists are doing a lot of talking in the film and their message is clear.
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#154 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
I see you have a bit of a reading problem.
You haven't even noticed the other videos at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate . Isn't that a serious vision problem? I suppose you also think that you're capable of refuting Freeman Dyson's commentary on global warming?
litesong

Everett, WA

#155 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
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FYMO
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.
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litesong wrote:
We haven't even talked about chinese communists(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS) who murdered, tortured & starved to death, 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES to hammer the chains of communism around the necks of HONORABLE CHINESE CITIZENS.
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#156 Feb 13, 2013
I agree with Dr. Richard Lindzen, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Professor of Atmospheric Science, and other highly respected climatologists:

"Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 21st century's developed world went into hysterical panic over a globally averaged temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to contemplate a roll-back of the industrial age."
http://everythingimportant.org/climategate
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#157 Feb 13, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.
British television producer Martin Durkin is an obvious genius. You're just jealous of his talents and wish you could make a film as revealing and entertaining as http://everythingimportant.org/climategate
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#158 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>British television producer Martin Durkin is an obvious genius. You're just jealous of his talents and wish you could make a film as revealing and entertaining as
Oh, it's an entertainment show! Ellen G White is an obvious genius. She failed to predict the comeback of Jesus twice! And Harold Camping did something similar.
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#160 Feb 13, 2013
The Dude wrote:
Ellen G White ... failed to predict the comeback of Jesus twice!
And you are a vacuum cleaner. You pick up whatever dirt that you bump into but have no thoughts about the origin of it.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#161 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
//////////
FYMO
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.
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litesong wrote:
We haven't even talked about chinese communists(ALWAYS SMALL LETTERS) who murdered, tortured & starved to death, 100 million of their own BROTHERS, SISTERS, CHILDREN & BABIES to hammer the chains of communism around the necks of HONORABLE CHINESE CITIZENS.
In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#162 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> And you are a vacuum cleaner. You pick up whatever dirt that you bump into but have no thoughts about the origin of it.
Irony meter go boom.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#163 Feb 13, 2013
It should go boom boom boom.

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#164 Feb 13, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
Seriously, what where were you born? Clearly English is not your primary language.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#165 Feb 13, 2013
PHD wrote:
It should go boom boom boom.
Frequently does whenever fundies are around.

Except still not as classy as JLH.
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#166 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's a nice strategy. You just make up whatever your perverted imagination perceives and then you believe the lie that you just created. All of the dissident climate scientists profiled at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate agree that human produced CO2 and global temperatures are rising. They simply argue that the increased CO2 is too insignificant to explain current global temperatures.
Still no answer.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#167 Feb 14, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Seriously, what where were you born? Clearly English is not your primary language.
Seriously what were you when you were hatched? Clearly reading is not your primary subject.

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#168 Feb 14, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
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Excuses? What irrelevant excuses did you see? What I wrote about was the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere and how that concentration changes depending on location.
What type of constructive suggestion would be appropriate for a discussion of atmospheric CO2 concentration dependent on location?
You also wrote that CO2 was WELL distributed, but apparently not well distributed at the ice caps because that does not suit your denial.

I produced links to scientific findings and consensus, I produced links to NASA research, for what ever reason you think best suites your life style they obviously were not up to your exacting standard. Ask me if I care?

The consensus has been reached, I can’t be bothered arguing with you on whether that consensus suites you or not. The research is there to see.

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#169 Feb 14, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's a wonderful idea. What's wrong with students examining what dissident scientists are saying?
Since when has a CONCENSUS been dissident?

What you actually mean is “What's wrong with students examining what scientists who don’t think like you do are saying?
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> everythingimportant.org/climategate contains the opinions of many peer reviewed scientists. The agenda, resisted by you, is to get people to understand what dissident scientists are saying about the holy oracles of mainstream climate scientists.
Nope it lists no peer reviewed articles but voices a one sided opinion without the option for peer review. It is exactly what we have come to expect from your sources.

There are very few dissident scientists but there are a vast majority who you will not agree with. Look up the definition of dissident I think in this case you will find that it applies to you

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#170 Feb 14, 2013
FYMO wrote:
<quoted text>And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
No, not really, however you are welcome to believe whatever you think is right in your own tiny mind
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#171 Feb 14, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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You also wrote that CO2 was WELL distributed, but apparently not well distributed at the ice caps because that does not suit your denial.
I produced links to scientific findings and consensus, I produced links to NASA research, for what ever reason you think best suites your life style they obviously were not up to your exacting standard. Ask me if I care?
The consensus has been reached, I can’t be bothered arguing with you on whether that consensus suites you or not. The research is there to see.
http://microdevices.jpl.nasa.gov/images/capab...
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#172 Feb 14, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>to ff
You also wrote that CO2 was WELL distributed, but apparently not well distributed at the ice caps because that does not suit your denial.
I produced links to scientific findings and consensus, I produced links to NASA research, for what ever reason you think best suites your life style they obviously were not up to your exacting standard. Ask me if I care?
The consensus has been reached, I can’t be bothered arguing with you on whether that consensus suites you or not. The research is there to see.
ff claimed that the New Mexico legislators listened to his craft. He is not benign.

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