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Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

There are 1632 comments on the Verde Independent story from Feb 5, 2013, titled Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students. In it, Verde Independent reports that:

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#130 Feb 12, 2013
FYMO wrote:
<quoted text>And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
It was?

Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
litesong

Everett, WA

#131 Feb 12, 2013
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).

More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
FYMO

West Chicago, IL

#132 Feb 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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It was?
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
It was also VERY popular throughout Europe and Russia.
sun

Longview, WA

#133 Feb 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
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No problem. If I recall the number of peer-reviewed papers on the subject FOR is in the thousands. The number AGAINST is about 25.
So at least it's not like the evil worldwide atheist Darwinist conspiracy which has hundreds and thousands for evolution, while creationism only has just one. PHEW!!!
whats wrong with believing evolution and creation,i believe totally in evolution an think its people just trying to figure out how god works,carl sagan could tell store better than anybody an even he could not rule out god.he said cosmo is so big anything is possible
litesong

Everett, WA

#134 Feb 12, 2013
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews, racist euros in general, & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes. Finally, someone else sees what euros & transplanted euros are & continue to be.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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fymo wrote:
It was also VERY popular throughout Europe and Russia.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#135 Feb 12, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you don't respond in kind. I'm posting in English which can be read and understood by anyone with an education.
You're post seem to be written in a sort of Pidgin English cobbled together of whatever your mother was able to remember while home schooling you.
Do yourself a favor, realize that you aren't half a clever as you think you are and run away while you still have the chance.
Continuing to post things like the above is just going to increase the number of people who recognize you are a fraud.
I do respond in kind. One, we all knows I had a mother unlike you by your useless display. Two, Pidgin English must be your forte now that you mentioned it. Three, Do all of us a favor and move to that third world dictatorship where you belong. Fourth, Your not cleaver at all by any stretch of anyone’s imagination. Fifth, No need to run everyone already know you are a fraud. Final, If, and that would be a big if you had an education you would respond with a rational answer but you choose to attack someone’s mother. Now run don't walk to the nearest third world country where you belong.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#136 Feb 12, 2013
FYMO wrote:
<quoted text>And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
A another point, the consensus of Christians in Europe was that Jews should be oppressed, tortured and murdered (all through the middle ages, in fact)-- which led right to Hitler and his gang. Read Martin Luther's "On the Jews and Their Lies."
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#137 Feb 12, 2013
FYMO wrote:
<quoted text>It was also VERY popular throughout Europe and Russia.
No there were a few nutcakes fulminating about it, but "very popular"? Wrong.

Eugenics is whacko pseudo-science pushed by people with psychotic agendas.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#138 Feb 12, 2013
FYMO wrote:
<quoted text>And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
Give us a link to show that eugenics was ever a "consensus" in science.

You're lying, plain and simple.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#139 Feb 12, 2013
litesong wrote:
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews, racist euros in general, & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes. Finally, someone else sees what euros & transplanted euros are & continue to be.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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fymo wrote:
It was also VERY popular throughout Europe and Russia.
In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#140 Feb 12, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
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LOL.
Funniest thing I've read here in a while.
http://www.durangobill.com/Swindle_Swindle.ht...
The claim that the climate scientists profiled in the movie have never passed a high school science course is just plain silly.
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#141 Feb 12, 2013
litesong wrote:
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They can have it in history & poli-sci classes, which study lots of dead societies & ideas, like the flat earth, human sacrifice, slavery, & starving people who live blocks away from billionaires.
It sounds like you're ignorant of history and that you should take a class. History proves that the majority isn't always right. http://everythingimportant.org
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#142 Feb 12, 2013
The Dude wrote:
If I recall the number of peer-reviewed papers on the subject FOR is in the thousands. The number AGAINST is about 25.
My point is that everyone on this thread is incapable of refuting the dissident climate scientists.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#144 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>My point is that everyone on this thread is incapable of refuting the dissident climate scientists.
Because their claims don't rise to the level of requiring to be refuted.

There's a homeless guy downtown who screams "I've got squirrels in my pants."

He doesn't. Also, his claim does not need to be refuted. He's nuts.

Same goes for these scientists who are claiming that humans are not adding to the CO2 levels which have been climbing since we started burning carbon to convert it to CO2 and releasing it.

It's obvious on its face. To deny it is ridiculous.
SpaceBlues

United States

#146 Feb 12, 2013
Human finger print on climate change:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics/Human_Fi...
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#147 Feb 12, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Because their claims don't rise to the level of requiring to be refuted.
There's a homeless guy downtown who screams "I've got squirrels in my pants."
He doesn't. Also, his claim does not need to be refuted. He's nuts.
Same goes for these scientists who are claiming that humans are not adding to the CO2 levels which have been climbing since we started burning carbon to convert it to CO2 and releasing it.
It's obvious on its face. To deny it is ridiculous.
That's a nice strategy. You just make up whatever your perverted imagination perceives and then you believe the lie that you just created. All of the dissident climate scientists profiled at http://everythingimportant.org/climategate agree that human produced CO2 and global temperatures are rising. They simply argue that the increased CO2 is too insignificant to explain current global temperatures.
Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#148 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>The claim that the climate scientists profiled in the movie have never passed a high school science course is just plain silly.
I see you have a bit of a reading problem. The dig is quite clearly at the writer of the movie, who indeed has never passed a high school science course.

As to the handful of scientists appearing in the movie, two immediately backed away from it and said their views had been misrepresented, three are fossil fuel industry whores paid to misrepresent the science in the same way that some scientists were paid to claim smoking didn't cause cancer by the tobacco industry (one of them actually did just that, moving on to AGW denial after cancer denial) and one is a charlatan weather forecaster.

Leaving one climate scientist whose theory of negative feedback to AGW was shown to be wrong years ago.

What a joke.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#149 Feb 13, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>My point is that everyone on this thread is incapable of refuting the dissident climate scientists.
And of course this internet forum thread is of **extreme** importance to the scientific community.

After all, Shoob's on it.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#150 Feb 13, 2013
More scientific science fiction wanna be scientists that use cut and paste useless babble to defend their position on scientific science fiction.
FYMO

Aurora, IL

#151 Feb 13, 2013
litesong wrote:
FYMO wrote:
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.
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The Dude wrote:
Or was it just the Nazis and Americans who dabbled in it in the early 20th century?
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litesong wrote:
Hitler got his idea of the Jewish concentration camps from transplanted euro(american) ideas about Native Tribes concentration camps(reservations).
More connections between Hitler, killing Jews & transplanted euros, killing Native Tribes.
And it is still going on today in parts of Asia- espicially North Korea where babies who are part Korean and part Chinese are killed by the government. It occured for hundreds of years in Asia in Chinese, Japanese and Korean cultures who felt that mixed race children weakened the culture.

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