Skull Valley lawmaker wants both side...

Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

There are 1632 comments on the Verde Independent story from Feb 5, 2013, titled Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students. In it, Verde Independent reports that:

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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#1393 Jun 17, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol....miscreant blatherer.
I see facts leave you wordless eh? Not surprising.

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#1394 Jun 17, 2013
litesong wrote:
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Its ('lyin' brian') deliberate ignorance began with its failure to take science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its proudly held but poorly earned high skule DEE-plooomaa. Its profound lack of science interest began even before it reached hi skule.
It does not really matter where it began, it exists and he revels in the ignorance it gives him

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#1396 Jun 17, 2013
You may use your pretend 'standards' for science. Me, I'm waiting for an experimental test published in a peer reviewed journal.

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Still waiting...

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#1397 Jun 17, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
You may use your pretend 'standards' for science. Me, I'm waiting for an experimental test published in a peer reviewed journal.
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Still waiting...
Nope, stop lying, you are waiting for the impossible to verify the idiotic.

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#1398 Jun 17, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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I see facts leave you wordless eh? Not surprising.
lol....why would you say such a silly thing? What facts? Oh, your opinions!!

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#1399 Jun 17, 2013
Kyle wrote:
<quoted text>That's correct, you DON'T deserve a response; that's the whole point. You don't deserve a response because you're an a-hole, a pathological liar, and a troll that repeats proven lies endlessly, never acknowledges refutations, and refuses to support his claims or retract them.
maybe the new ice age scientists of the 70's will cancel out the global warming scientists....and everything will remain net neutral !!! I doubt you have a good response to my post....not that I deserve one, of course!
Lol
SpaceBlues

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#1400 Jun 17, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Ocean acidification due to increasing
atmospheric carbon dioxide
http://coralreef.noaa.gov/aboutcrcp/strategy/...
Furthermore, rising greenhouse gas emissions must result in more warming - "That carbon dioxide warms the climate is not in doubt."

So if there's more carbon dioxide, and the warming isn't staying in the atmosphere, where is it going?

Surface temperature is only a small (but important) part of the climate system. In fact, most of the extra heat the planet absorbs goes into the oceans, climate scientist at the University of Reading Dr Richard Allan tells us:

"The vast ocean has a huge capacity to store heat … To balance the books you need to be measuring the energy coming in at the top of the atmosphere and all the places where it's going to really understand how the climate is heating."

http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2013/05/doubl...

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#1401 Jun 17, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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Nope, stop lying, you are waiting for the impossible to verify the idiotic.
where is your conclusive evidence of what mitigation will do?

it's pretty idiotic to call co2 pollution.....at least on this planet.

where are you from, son? obviously not this world.
litesong

Everett, WA

#1402 Jun 17, 2013
[QUOTE who="lyin' brian"]I'm waiting.....Still waiting...[/QUOTE]

......'lyin' brian' is still waiting for its education..... after it missed science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra & pre-calc in its hi skule DEE-plooomaa.

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#1403 Jun 18, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol....why would you say such a silly thing? What facts? Oh, your opinions!!
Nope facts, look up the definition of the word.

Then consider the quarter of a million academic and scientific links that I googled to shown brian_G to be a liar and what has he offered in return? Nothing except outright denial that those links exists

Or how about the links to NASA, various climate sties, various weather sites, various natural resource sites and various sciientific bodies, including governmental sites.

So no, not opinions but you are welcome to yours if they make to feel all warm and cosy inside.

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#1404 Jun 18, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>maybe the new ice age scientists of the 70's will cancel out the global warming scientists....and everything will remain net neutral !!! I doubt you have a good response to my post....not that I deserve one, of course!
Lol
Ahhh is this your opinion?

That’s good enough and all it deserves of course

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#1405 Jun 18, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>where is your conclusive evidence of what mitigation will do?
it's pretty idiotic to call co2 pollution.....at least on this planet.
where are you from, son? obviously not this world.
See the hundreds of thousands of links I and several other people have provided to show brian-g and the other deniers that stawman BS is simply strawman BS. Feel free to educate yourself, it’s not my problem if you choose to remain ignorant or not, I don’t really care.

Idiotic? You are idiotic in not considering the percentage, our atmosphere is a fine balance of gasses. Too little CO2 and much life on earth will die, too much CO2 and much life on earth will die. I realise I am probably wasting my time and energy but please feel free to educate yourself at the links below.
http://www.nature.com/climate/2007/0707/full/...
http://www.bitsofscience.org/petm-climate-dis...

Son? Assuming you had any credibility you just lost it with that pathetic statement, grow up you childish moron who dreams of big bad aliens because he has no comprehension of reality. Your statement that was obviously designed to insult simply shows your stupidity but hey, all anyone expected from you was stupidity.

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#1406 Jun 18, 2013
There's no experimental what 'too much' CO2 is, looks like plants can tolerate plenty.

Don't panic.

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#1407 Jun 18, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
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See the hundreds of thousands of links I and several other people have provided to show brian-g and the other deniers that stawman BS is simply strawman BS. Feel free to educate yourself, it’s not my problem if you choose to remain ignorant or not, I don’t really care.
Idiotic? You are idiotic in not considering the percentage, our atmosphere is a fine balance of gasses. Too little CO2 and much life on earth will die, too much CO2 and much life on earth will die. I realise I am probably wasting my time and energy but please feel free to educate yourself at the links below.
http://www.nature.com/climate/2007/0707/full/...
http://www.bitsofscience.org/petm-climate-dis...
Son? Assuming you had any credibility you just lost it with that pathetic statement, grow up you childish moron who dreams of big bad aliens because he has no comprehension of reality. Your statement that was obviously designed to insult simply shows your stupidity but hey, all anyone expected from you was stupidity.
lol....big bad aliens!! That's the way your crowd treats life giving co2. Talk about no comprehension of reality. Lol. No need to respond to the rest of your post as it was clearly intended to only insult, huh, son?
Kyle

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#1408 Jun 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
You may use your pretend 'standards' for science. Me, I'm waiting for an experimental test published in a peer reviewed journal.
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Still waiting...
WTF WOULD THIS EXPERIMENT LOOK LIKE? AND DON'T YOU DARE PLAY THE "I'M NO SCIENTIST" CARD. THAT HASN'T STOPPED YOU FROM DISSING THE SCIENCE WITH EVERY POST, SO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Then, when everyone tells you what a moronic demand you're making, ACKNOWLEDGE THE CRITICISM, YOU TROLL.

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#1409 Jun 19, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>lol....big bad aliens!! That's the way your crowd treats life giving co2. Talk about no comprehension of reality. Lol. No need to respond to the rest of your post as it was clearly intended to only insult, huh, son?
Oh sorry if your own post confused you?

Let me remind you?“where are you from, son? obviously not this world”

I.E alien

When you are capable of understanding what you write then please come back and try again

Nope, actually it was it was a post backed up with links and valid science and intended and succeeded in showing that you are a pathetic liar who has nothing but screwed opinion. There that was an insult.

Son? Back to your post your childish moron. That’s not an insult, that’s just the conclusion gained from reading your BS post

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#1410 Jun 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There's no experimental what 'too much' CO2 is, looks like plants can tolerate plenty.
Don't panic.
More lies, as expected from on of you tiny mind

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2097022...

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j....

http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/...

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s004...

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#1411 Jun 19, 2013
Kyle wrote:
WTF WOULD THIS EXPERIMENT LOOK LIKE? AND DON'T YOU DARE PLAY THE "I'M NO SCIENTIST" CARD. THAT HASN'T STOPPED YOU FROM DISSING THE SCIENCE WITH EVERY POST, SO PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Then, when everyone tells you what a moronic demand you're making, ACKNOWLEDGE THE CRITICISM, YOU TROLL.
An experiment testing climate change mitigation would look different from a non-experiment; like a theory, guess or assumption. An experiment would offer numerical data quantitatively different from the zero experiments on climate change mitigation we've seen so far. This experiment would be reproducible and published in a peer reviewed journal on semi-glossy paper.

Science uses experiments to test and refine hypotheses, this is called the scientific method. This man made greenhouse gas climate change theory has been around more than 100 years, don't you think it's time to experimentally test it? If not now, when?

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#1412 Jun 19, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
More lies, as expected from on of you tiny mind[URL deleted] http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/... [more URLs deleted]
I like the one Chris cited above, Facing the Inevitable. I wish alarmists had such common sense.

We adapt, adaption has been tested and it works. Climate change mitigation is pipe dreams.

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#1413 Jun 19, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>I like the one Chris cited above, Facing the Inevitable. I wish alarmists had such common sense.
We adapt, adaption has been tested and it works. Climate change mitigation is pipe dreams.
So you like one, how about the others?

However, more to the point, each and every link I offered proved you to be a lair whether you liked it or not.

P.S. there is nothing alarmist in being aware of the facts, however there is something sadly lacking in the mind of someone who ignores the facts.

I can just imaging your reaction should your daughter come home in tears one night,“daddy, oh daddy, what am I to do, I was gang raped”

Would you reply “I like that, face the inevitable”

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