Skull Valley lawmaker wants both side...

Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

There are 1632 comments on the Verde Independent story from Feb 5, 2013, titled Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students. In it, Verde Independent reports that:

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#107 Feb 11, 2013
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>I just look at the pond. If a duck walks on it, it's below freezing. if the duck floats... it's a WITCH!
BURN HER!!!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#108 Feb 11, 2013
Bad idea.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#109 Feb 11, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
<quoted text>
BURN HER!!!
She turned me into a Newt!
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#110 Feb 11, 2013
Maybe it was the extreme cold that caused your issue.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#111 Feb 11, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>In addition, you think topix does not know what you publish. Attacks on me will not delete or erase what you are and what you do. You should stop making an ASSumption of your---self before you know the facts. Do contact topix to satisfy your accusations of the reprint BS your posting of what I said. You are a dumbASSumption of your---self again.
Clearly your PhD is not in English.

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#112 Feb 12, 2013
Fun Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, CO2 is a well distributed gas at low elevations and low latitudes. Not because I want it to be, but because it is.
Yes, ice core data is collected over 700,000 years. Some of the data points are as much as 1000 years apart. My time of day reference is to the fact that the conditions of the area where the CO2 is measured will determine the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
If as in antarctica, CO2 is collected from an atmosphere that is winter, nighttime 50% of the time, high elevation and high latitude, that will make the collected values lower than CO2 collected from an area that is summer, daytime, low elevation and low latitude. Even though antarctica has been glaciated for about 34 million years now, the rest of the earth is still rather temperate.
Since the majority of the world does not share the physical attributes of antarctica, then the majority of the world does not share the same CO2 values.
You're correct that the antarctic values show the pattern of climate for the world over an extended time. However just looking at the arctic vs the antarctic data sets you can see a difference in the pattern of climate between the two hemispheres. Both go up and down in the same type of pattern with lag times between the two and with more radical swings in the arctic because of precession.
If the CO2 values of greenland mimic the relationship of temperatures to CO2 values found in the antarctic, then we could infer that the CO2 values of the arctic are, like the temps, more variable.
Read one of the studies. An understanding of the graphs you pick up is essential to your interpretation of what you see.
"I find it rather amusing that you can makes claims and then contradictory claims both to defend the same point." It only appears contradictory if you do not understand what you're looking at.
There is no such thing as a contradiction, if you perceive one, check your premises, one of them is wrong.
And if pigs could fly the price of bacon would rise.

Excuses are excuses and you seem pt have plenty of irrelevant excuses created to obfuscate rather than offer constructive suggestions

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#116 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
Freeman Dyson is an obvious dissident. He thinks the human contribution to global warming is negligible.
everythingimportant.org/climategate
That link is outdated irrelevance
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#117 Feb 12, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Clearly your PhD is not in English.
And your reading ability is in?
Fun Facts

Huntsville, AL

#118 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
And if pigs could fly the price of bacon would rise.
Excuses are excuses and you seem pt have plenty of irrelevant excuses created to obfuscate rather than offer constructive suggestions
Excuses? What irrelevant excuses did you see? What I wrote about was the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere and how that concentration changes depending on location.

What type of constructive suggestion would be appropriate for a discussion of atmospheric CO2 concentration dependent on location?
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#119 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
The debate is and I quote –“Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students”
That's a wonderful idea. What's wrong with students examining what dissident scientists are saying?
Level 6

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#120 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
Your link is to the “The Confessing Seventh-day Adventist” site, the page was created in 2007 and last updated in 2010 by godbots with an agenda and NOT peer reviewed scientists.
everythingimportant.org/climat egate contains the opinions of many peer reviewed scientists. The agenda, resisted by you, is to get people to understand what dissident scientists are saying about the holy oracles of mainstream climate scientists.
Level 1

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#121 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> everythingimportant.org/climategate contains the opinions of many peer reviewed scientists. The agenda, resisted by you, is to get people to understand what dissident scientists are saying about the holy oracles of mainstream climate scientists.
LOL.

Funniest thing I've read here in a while.

http://www.durangobill.com/Swindle_Swindle.ht...

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#122 Feb 12, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>And your reading ability is in?
Don't start a sentence with "And".
Don't end a sentence with "in".
"Reading ability" is something which is measure by grade level so the correct word would be "at".
However, you might have meant to ask: "In which language are you best able to read?"

Meanwhile, I reiterate, you certainly didn't obtain a PhD in English.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#123 Feb 12, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't start a sentence with "And".
Don't end a sentence with "in".
"Reading ability" is something which is measure by grade level so the correct word would be "at".
However, you might have meant to ask: "In which language are you best able to read?"
Meanwhile, I reiterate, you certainly didn't obtain a PhD in English.
And your point would be? Grade level would be? No which language can you read? Meanwhile you made a ASSumption of your ---self. Keep in mind I do respond in kind.
sun

Longview, WA

#124 Feb 12, 2013
scablands one mans science,mainsteam scietist saying no your a dum-sh-t

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#125 Feb 12, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>And your point would be? Grade level would be? No which language can you read? Meanwhile you made a ASSumption of your ---self. Keep in mind I do respond in kind.
Actually, you don't respond in kind. I'm posting in English which can be read and understood by anyone with an education.

You're post seem to be written in a sort of Pidgin English cobbled together of whatever your mother was able to remember while home schooling you.

Do yourself a favor, realize that you aren't half a clever as you think you are and run away while you still have the chance.

Continuing to post things like the above is just going to increase the number of people who recognize you are a fraud.
litesong

Everett, WA

#126 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
What's wrong with students examining what dissident scientists are saying?
They can have it in history & poli-sci classes, which study lots of dead societies & ideas, like the flat earth, human sacrifice, slavery, & starving people who live blocks away from billionaires.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#127 Feb 12, 2013
PHD wrote:
No which language can you read?
I'm sorry, what?
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#128 Feb 12, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's a wonderful idea. What's wrong with students examining what dissident scientists are saying?
No problem. If I recall the number of peer-reviewed papers on the subject FOR is in the thousands. The number AGAINST is about 25.

So at least it's not like the evil worldwide atheist Darwinist conspiracy which has hundreds and thousands for evolution, while creationism only has just one. PHEW!!!
FYMO

West Chicago, IL

#129 Feb 12, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, the dinosaurs disagree, just like you do, apparently
“the consensus of the scientific community has shifted from scepticism to near-unanimous acceptance of the evidence of an artificial greenhouse effect”
And at one point the consensus of the scientific community was that Eugenics was going tosave mankind.

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