Skull Valley lawmaker wants both side...

Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students

There are 1632 comments on the Verde Independent story from Feb 5, 2013, titled Skull Valley lawmaker wants both sides of climate change taught to students. In it, Verde Independent reports that:

Saying students are getting only one side of the debate, a state senator wants to free teachers to tell students why they believe there is no such thing human-caused "global warming.' The proposal by Sen.

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SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#294 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>You are astonishingly stupid, aren't you? Earning a PhD is for ordinary, non-creative minds to make stooges like you feel that they've achieved something important.
Nice, a stupid reply from you.

Only those who can never get a PhD speaks like you do. Don't fall apart over it.

The fact is that you are fighting pure strangers because Dyson failed to earn a PhD.
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#295 Feb 17, 2013
Correction: Only you who can never get a PhD speaks like you do.
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#296 Feb 17, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
What happened to your hero without a PhD? No wonder you feel qualified to praise him.
It's true that I can easily identify with Freeman Dyson. Get someone to read to you from the New York Times and see why.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/magazine/29... ;
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#297 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>It's true that I can easily identify with Freeman Dyson. Get someone to read to you from the New York Times and see why.
..&
Aww shut up, silly goose.

LOL.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#298 Feb 17, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you for your input. See even you can respond without the use of calling names. I do disagree with your statement.
Yes dude if you take a long minute and read what I posted I said even you can respond without calling names.
My apologies.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#299 Feb 17, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
<quoted text>
You believe that 4 is more than 5?
Wow. You are what we in the industry call "dumb".
And Shoob is a mathematician.

Never let reality get in the way of some good apologetics.
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#300 Feb 17, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
Here he [Dyson] is talking frankly about this, comparing himself to James Hansen who has actually studied climatology.

<< He [Hansen] has all the credentials. I have none. I don't have a Ph.D. He's published hundreds of papers on climate. I haven't. By the public standard he's qualified to talk and I'm not.***
But I do because I think I' m right. I think I have a broad view of the subject, which Hansen does not. I think it's true my career doesn't depend on it, whereas his does. I never claim to be an expert on climate. I think it's more a matter of judgement than knowledge.">>
Shubee wrote:
<You're willfully misinterpreting unusually rare humility as a confession of ignorance. Read the entire article and try to understand Dyson's accomplishments. Also notice the claims made by other respected scientists that Freeman Dyson actually possesses infinite intelligence and that he was cheated out of a Noble Prize. Here's something else that you willfully misunderstand. PhD's are a dime a dozen. For Dyson to be granted a research position at Institute for Advanced Study in Prince­ton, N.J. and 21 honorary PhD's from prestigious universities is evidence of his genius, not his ignorance. So please renounce your bigotry. Listen to Dyson's lecture on climate change and note Dyson's remarks about his careful study of the subject and his confidence that he is right.
everythingimportant.org/climategate/
While Dyson and I agree that mainstream climate scientists don't have any respectable judgment on mainstream climate hysteria, I do see that your obsession with slander resembles that of SpaceBalls.

The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#301 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>While Dyson and I agree that mainstream climate scientists don't have any respectable judgment on mainstream climate hysteria, I do see that your obsession with slander resembles that of SpaceBalls.
Argument via ad-hom. Well done.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#302 Feb 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
My apologies.
Accepted!!
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#303 Feb 17, 2013
The Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
Argument via ad-hom. Well done.
That's the only argument that persons in the SpaceBalls category of misfits can understand.
The Dude

Macclesfield, UK

#304 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's the only argument that persons in the SpaceBalls category of misfits can understand.
That's okay, I know more. And you already know that. But against you it's not necessary since you know less.
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#305 Feb 17, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>That's the only argument that persons in the SpaceBalls category of misfits can understand.
Really, silly goose.

Go back and review your steps. You'll find you are the misfit.

QED.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#306 Feb 17, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Really, silly goose.
Go back and review your steps. You'll find you are the misfit.
QED.
The kettle is back. You did hit the bottle again.
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#307 Feb 17, 2013
Awww ph'd lies because it is degreeless per admission.

Are you going to call yourself bottle or kettle now that you are exposed again? Maybe mathless???
SpaceBlues

Cypress, TX

#308 Feb 17, 2013
The importance of statistics, probability, and risk in the climate change discussion was also raised by Penn State University researchers at the AAAS meeting on Friday.

In a statement, they called statistics “an important tool in sorting through information on how human activities are affecting the climate system, as well as how climate change affects natural and human systems… As more research is conducted and more data are gathered… scientists are gaining a better understanding of current and future climate conditions, as well as predicting the risk of the dramatic and costly affects of this change.”

“We have a better understanding of the climate now than we have ever had before. With greater availability of data and more sophisticated climate models, our knowledge continues to increase,” said associate professor of statistics Murali Haran.“[But] we still don’t know everything there is to know about the climate… Hence it is vitally important to account for our uncertainties about the system – what we know and what we don’t know. Statisticians can provide the language and methods to quantify these uncertainties in a rigorous fashion.”

http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/11127855...

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

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Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#309 Feb 18, 2013
There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation, that's how you can tell its a hoax and the theory that man made greenhouse gas emissions are causing catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#310 Feb 18, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
There are no experimental tests of climate change mitigation, that's how you can tell its a hoax and the theory that man made greenhouse gas emissions are causing catastrophic climate change is pseudoscience.
AKA scientific science fiction.

“When you treat people as they ”

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Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#311 Feb 18, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Never.
Correct so why lie about it? Why make BS suggestions and then prove yourself to be a liar?
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>You can put it that way, except that I don't speak for them. They do an excellent job of speaking for themselves.
You made a statement and I responded to it, you don’t want people to respond then don’t make stupid statements
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>Your whining is meaningless since accomplished scientists are saying that the peer-review process in climate science has been co-opted by delusional pseudo-science.
Funny how the godbots always accuse their opposition of “whining” and then go on to cite years out of date ideas but never bother giving references to that idea.

No “whining” involved, unlike you I provided links to valid scientific data. You have done nothing but complain that you don’t agree with that scientific data but never even considered supplyi9ng your own evidence. Nuff said.
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text>And they do all your thinking for you. The problem is that accomplished scientists are saying that your faith is flawed.
Weeelll here you go again with the godbot excuses. I PROVIDED links to valid scientific evidence. All you have done is rant about outdated material and past errors, which funnily enough were spotted and highlighted by the very science you are condemning
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#312 Feb 18, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Awww ph'd lies because it is degreeless per admission.
Are you going to call yourself bottle or kettle now that you are exposed again? Maybe mathless???
Take that new pill and wake up feeling your--self with the wallop10 AKA walloped again and again.

“When you treat people as they ”

Level 6

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#313 Feb 18, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Interesting. I used craft for ff's "skill in evasion or deception, guile." What's your craft?
:-)
Otherwise I agree with you. NM happens to be the home of many climate scientists but maybe they don't go to Santa Fe for lectures.
Yes I realised this, that’s why I pointed out the deliberate deceit (given up to date data) of what he claims, just another point of view on your post.

My skill is nothing to do with the environment other than creating animations based on scientific data. Some of that data is quite frightening, particularly for coastal dwellers.

I’m a 3D Artist specialising in animation, mimic diagrams and training videos

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